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PAUL WILLIAMSON
2005-03-14, 13:53
Please bear with me on this idea...

I bought a house a couple years ago with the intent of
rewiring the whole thing. I've started down this road,
but the house has dictated that it wants all of it's
thermostats replaced.

Having this stumbling block put before me has caused
me to think about a really crazy integration idea -
I was wondering if I could use a squeezebox, with a
modified temp sensor, to somehow control my HVAC
system? I have some X-10 devices around the house,
so I looked into X-10 HVAC panels and have come up
with a few, but they are more than a squeezebox.

Felix's recent post about something totally unrelated
caused me to go looking around his website. After
seeing the temp sensor he hacked up to connect
through the geek connector started me thinking
about this option.

If I could mount a squeezebox in the wall in place of
my thermostats, that would be totally awesome.

Any ideas? Am I trying to kill a fly with a sledgehammer?

Thanks,
Paul

Jay Sissom
2005-03-14, 15:18
I've used X10 before. I wouldn't think you would want to use X10 to
control the heating/air conditioning of your house. Based on my
experiences, you would come home from work and find the house to be on
full heat in the middle of summer or full air conditioning in the
middle of winter. X10 hasn't been very reliable for me. It kept
turning my bedroom light on in the middle of the night for no reason.
It did this quite often. It also turned things off randomly. Now all
of my X10 devices are in a box in the basement. They won't wake me up
in the middle of the night that way. :)

I'm not saying that you couldn't make your squeezebox do it, I just
wouldn't suggest using X10 for it. X10 should be used for non-mission
critical applications in my opinion.

Jay


On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 15:53:16 -0500, PAUL WILLIAMSON
<pwilliamson (AT) mandtbank (DOT) com> wrote:
> Please bear with me on this idea...
>
> I bought a house a couple years ago with the intent of
> rewiring the whole thing. I've started down this road,
> but the house has dictated that it wants all of it's
> thermostats replaced.
>
> Having this stumbling block put before me has caused
> me to think about a really crazy integration idea -
> I was wondering if I could use a squeezebox, with a
> modified temp sensor, to somehow control my HVAC
> system? I have some X-10 devices around the house,
> so I looked into X-10 HVAC panels and have come up
> with a few, but they are more than a squeezebox.
>
> Felix's recent post about something totally unrelated
> caused me to go looking around his website. After
> seeing the temp sensor he hacked up to connect
> through the geek connector started me thinking
> about this option.
>
> If I could mount a squeezebox in the wall in place of
> my thermostats, that would be totally awesome.
>
> Any ideas? Am I trying to kill a fly with a sledgehammer?
>
> Thanks,
> Paul
>
>

Jack Coates
2005-03-14, 16:58
Jay Sissom wrote:
> I've used X10 before. I wouldn't think you would want to use X10 to
> control the heating/air conditioning of your house. Based on my
> experiences, you would come home from work and find the house to be on
> full heat in the middle of summer or full air conditioning in the
> middle of winter. X10 hasn't been very reliable for me. It kept
> turning my bedroom light on in the middle of the night for no reason.
> It did this quite often. It also turned things off randomly. Now all
> of my X10 devices are in a box in the basement. They won't wake me up
> in the middle of the night that way. :)
>
> I'm not saying that you couldn't make your squeezebox do it, I just
> wouldn't suggest using X10 for it. X10 should be used for non-mission
> critical applications in my opinion.
>
> Jay

It's a radio thing, uses the same channels as car alarms. My neighbor
and I have definitely annoyed the hell out of each other, me turning off
his alarm, him turning on my lights. I've changed channels a few times,
so we don't totally interfere, but it's not perfect by a long shot.

--
Jack at Monkeynoodle dot Org: It's a Scientific Venture...
Riding the Emergency Third Rail Power Trip since 1996!

Danny Rego
2005-03-14, 20:18
I use the IR to X10 module they sell....that way none of my modules respond
to RF frequencies at all....that and the ActiveHome unit, and everything's
been awesome since!

(just thought I'd share on this topic)

Danny Rego

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack Coates" <jack (AT) monkeynoodle (DOT) org>
To: "Slim Devices Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 6:58 PM
Subject: [slim] Crazy squeezebox idea as a thermostat?


> Jay Sissom wrote:
>> I've used X10 before. I wouldn't think you would want to use X10 to
>> control the heating/air conditioning of your house. Based on my
>> experiences, you would come home from work and find the house to be on
>> full heat in the middle of summer or full air conditioning in the
>> middle of winter. X10 hasn't been very reliable for me. It kept
>> turning my bedroom light on in the middle of the night for no reason. It
>> did this quite often. It also turned things off randomly. Now all
>> of my X10 devices are in a box in the basement. They won't wake me up
>> in the middle of the night that way. :)
>>
>> I'm not saying that you couldn't make your squeezebox do it, I just
>> wouldn't suggest using X10 for it. X10 should be used for non-mission
>> critical applications in my opinion.
>>
>> Jay
>
> It's a radio thing, uses the same channels as car alarms. My neighbor and
> I have definitely annoyed the hell out of each other, me turning off his
> alarm, him turning on my lights. I've changed channels a few times, so we
> don't totally interfere, but it's not perfect by a long shot.
>
> --
> Jack at Monkeynoodle dot Org: It's a Scientific Venture...
> Riding the Emergency Third Rail Power Trip since 1996!
>

Phil Karn
2005-03-16, 03:06
PAUL WILLIAMSON wrote:

> If I could mount a squeezebox in the wall in place of
> my thermostats, that would be totally awesome.
>
> Any ideas? Am I trying to kill a fly with a sledgehammer?

No, but you're trying to drive a Torx-head screw with the claw on a
hammer. Or shovel dirt with a screwdriver. Or pound nails with an iPod.
You get the idea.

A Squeezebox is a device to play digital music over a network from a
server. Period. If you want a networked thermostat, go buy a thermostat
designed to be networked. They *do* exist.

Geez. No wonder the Slimserver software is so bloated and $#@!
unreliable... it's amazing the Slim Devices folks have managed to keep
the Squeezebox hardware as simple as it is against this kind of creature
feep.

Phil