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Chris Glushko
2005-03-13, 12:57
I would suggest staying away from Netgear. I just
replaced my WR614 today. Even with the latest
firmware, my netgear router was never very stable and
under intense use (i.e. a few hours of Bittorrent w/
Azureus) the netgear would essentially freeze, needed
to power cut off manually to unfreeze it.

I was going to grab a linksys, but Best Buy had a
Belkin Wireless G onsale for $10 after rebates (69.99
w/ 2 30 dollar rebates). So far, it's working great
and I find the utility for managing the software to be
far superior to Netgear's.


> Mike Hartley wrote:
> > Now that the native 802.11G SB2 is out, I am going
> to purchase a
> > wireless DSL router to accomodate it. The router
> has to have PPPOE;
> > firewall, DMZ, and port-forwarding capability;
> and at least one
> > ethernet wired connection for my main PC. I am
> considering a Netgear
> > WGR614NA, but am open to other options. Does
> anyone have any
> > suggestions?
>

Richard Elen
2005-03-13, 15:20
Chris Glushko wrote:
> ...Best Buy had a
> Belkin Wireless G onsale for $10 after rebates (69.99
> w/ 2 30 dollar rebates). So far, it's working great
> and I find the utility for managing the software to be
> far superior to Netgear's.

The Belkin's also working fine for me. Wish I'd got that price though!
--Richard E

Phil Karn
2005-03-13, 15:28
Chris Glushko wrote:
> I would suggest staying away from Netgear. I just
> replaced my WR614 today. Even with the latest
> firmware, my netgear router was never very stable and
> under intense use (i.e. a few hours of Bittorrent w/
> Azureus) the netgear would essentially freeze, needed
> to power cut off manually to unfreeze it.

I agree. Netgear's plain vanilla Ethernet hubs and switches have always
worked great for me (I also like their simple metal cases) but their
WR614 wireless access point was always a problem. It had poor coverage,
and even at close range we had unacceptably high packet loss rates to
our Power books. Firmware upgrades and appeals to customer support
didn't help. So it's been sitting unused in a box ever since we got our
first Linksys WRT54G.

I really wish Consumer Reports could evaluate stuff like this. They
could save a lot of people a lot of time and money.

Phil

Joshua Uziel
2005-03-13, 17:36
* Phil Karn <karn (AT) ka9q (DOT) net> [050313 14:28]:
> I agree. Netgear's plain vanilla Ethernet hubs and switches have always
> worked great for me (I also like their simple metal cases) but their
> WR614 wireless access point was always a problem. It had poor coverage,
> and even at close range we had unacceptably high packet loss rates to
> our Power books. Firmware upgrades and appeals to customer support
> didn't help. So it's been sitting unused in a box ever since we got our
> first Linksys WRT54G.

I've been using the Netgear WGR614 (v3) for almost a year now. I
definitely wouldn't call it perfect, but it's fine once you work around
some of it's brokenness. My network consists of several machines,
almost all of which run Linux. The WGR614's DHCP and DynDNS functions
were both broken, so I've switched those to being handled by my
fileserver. The Netgear would also crap out with Bittorrent transfers
on a wireless device, but seems fine with Bittorrent on wired devices...
so I run the bt client on a wired machine and display it on a wireless
machine. Really, all I use it for is wireless/wired connectivity and
routing to the outside.

> I really wish Consumer Reports could evaluate stuff like this. They
> could save a lot of people a lot of time and money.

Agreed. I got it 'cause it was the cheapest on the market... you get
what you pay for... but again, it's fine if you limit it's
responsibilities. :)

Michael Peters
2005-03-13, 17:50
On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 11:57:26 -0800 (PST), Chris Glushko
<chopcg (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
> I would suggest staying away from Netgear. I just
> replaced my WR614 today. Even with the latest
> firmware, my netgear router was never very stable and
> under intense use (i.e. a few hours of Bittorrent w/
> Azureus) the netgear would essentially freeze, needed
> to power cut off manually to unfreeze it.

Just for the record - I have the same issue with my Linksys wrt54g router.

BitTorrent crashes it.
I rarely uses BT - only to grab Linux iso's - it works perfectly otherwise.
Supposedly the BT issue on the Linksys router can be solved by
installing a third party firmware that gives you access to a shell and
then using that shell to allow more connections.

However - I've heard reports that it only is an issue on PPPoE and is
a buggy PPPoE driver. I'm switching to cable modem soon anyway, so I
will see if that fixes it - and if not, I'll just RMA it as some
people with a Linksys don't seem to have the issue, and I'd rather
have one that doesn't have the issue with stock firmware, then have to
do weird stuff.

My router is a v2.2 router - I don't know if it exists on the v3.0 routers.

--
http://mpeters.us/

Michael Peters
2005-03-13, 17:51
On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 16:36:09 -0800, Joshua Uziel <uzi (AT) uzix (DOT) org> wrote:

>
> > I really wish Consumer Reports could evaluate stuff like this. They
> > could save a lot of people a lot of time and money.
>
> Agreed. I got it 'cause it was the cheapest on the market... you get
> what you pay for... but again, it's fine if you limit it's
> responsibilities. :)

Back in the 80's - mom and dad bought a Colt Vista because it had
excellent Consumer Reports rating. That entire line of cars ended up
being a lemon line with expensive repairs.

Even consumer reports is sometimes way off.

--
http://mpeters.us/

Phil Karn
2005-03-14, 00:38
Michael Peters wrote:

> Just for the record - I have the same issue with my Linksys wrt54g router.

I should point out that I use only the wireless base station and 4-port
Ethernet switch features on our WRT54Gs. I don't use the built-in DHCP
or NAT/routing functions at all; that's all handled by a Soekris
Engineering box running Linux. So I wouldn't have encountered any bugs
in the WRT54G's routing or DHCP functions.

Phil