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Ian Whalley
2005-03-13, 11:32
I'm about to install a squeezebox system in the kitchen, and
the speakers will need to reside on top of wall-mounted
cupboards, and will be not easily accessible. This makes
most powered-speakers unsuitable, as I won't be able to turn
them off when not in use.

So I'm looking for recommendations as to possible powered
speaker systems or even (small and kitchen-appropriate)
amplifiers (to permit me to use unpowered speakers in the
hard-to-access location).

Anyone?

Thanks;

inw

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Pat Farrell
2005-03-13, 11:41
On Sun, 2005-03-13 at 13:32 -0500, Ian Whalley wrote:
> cupboards, and will be not easily accessible. This makes
> most powered-speakers unsuitable, as I won't be able to turn
> them off when not in use.

I've got several pairs of self powered speakers that auto detect and
turn on and off in response to a signal. I use a set of "AR Powered
Partners" in my library with a Squeezebox for exactly this reason, they
are on top of bookcases way out of reach. The PP are old, I got them
at least 14 years ago, you probably can find them on ebay. They are
very nice sounding, heavy, each is a triangle about cut from a 10x10
square about four inches thick.

I've got some Mackie 824 studio monitors that are also very nice and
auto detect. But they are $1000, which may be out of your budget target


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Ian Whalley
2005-03-13, 17:31
>>cupboards, and will be not easily accessible. This makes
>>most powered-speakers unsuitable, as I won't be able to turn
>>them off when not in use.
>I've got several pairs of self powered speakers that auto
>detect and turn on and off in response to a signal. I use a
>set of "AR Powered Partners" in my library with a
>Squeezebox for exactly this reason, they are on top of
>bookcases way out of reach. The PP are old, I got them at
>least 14 years ago, you probably can find them on ebay.
>They are very nice sounding, heavy, each is a triangle
>about cut from a 10x10 square about four inches thick.

That's very helpful, thanks. It lead be (indirectly) to the
Advent AV570 (which you can find at J&R on Amazon), which
has good reviews and also features auto-on. There's some
evidence that these speakers are in some way related to the
old Audio Research line, but it's a little hard to follow.


>I've got some Mackie 824 studio monitors that are also very
>nice and auto detect. But they are $1000, which may be out
>of your budget target

Just a little! Even the Advents (at $240 US) are a little
more than I had in mind, but I'd rather pay more up front
and have them switch themselves off when not in use than
gradually bleed electricity over many years :).

Thanks!

inw

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Aaron Zinck
2005-03-13, 17:40
FYI: virtually all active speakers I've ever used have signal-sensing
auto-on/off built into them. Only very inexpensive consumer-lever
pc-oriented speakers seem to omit this feature.

Michael Peters
2005-03-13, 17:53
On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 13:32:02 -0500, Ian Whalley
<inw-slimp3-users (AT) whalley (DOT) org> wrote:
> I'm about to install a squeezebox system in the kitchen, and
> the speakers will need to reside on top of wall-mounted
> cupboards, and will be not easily accessible. This makes
> most powered-speakers unsuitable, as I won't be able to turn
> them off when not in use.

I have speakers mounted in the ceiling in the kitchen/dining room.
The speaker wires run through the roof, then down into the living room
- where they attach to a receiver.

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Pat Farrell
2005-03-13, 22:02
On Sun, 2005-03-13 at 19:31 -0500, Ian Whalley wrote:
> That's very helpful, thanks. It lead be (indirectly) to the
> Advent AV570 (which you can find at J&R on Amazon)


The photos of the advents look exactly like my AR Powered Partners.

I am not sure, but I think both the old AR and the old Advent companies
went belly up a while ago. Someone could have bought the brand names
for new products.

Whatever, I do like my Powered Partners. They actually sound good,
which is much better than most PC speakers

Be warned, they are heavy


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Jess Askey
2005-03-13, 22:13
Hello all...

I have my music on a seperate server (mandrake9) from my slimserver
machine(Win2K3) that shares my music via smb and I have it mapped to my
slimserver computer as my z: drive. When I configure slimserver to scan
z:\, it returns an error saying '*Oops - "Z:" doesn't seem to be a valid
directory. Try again.*' Is this a limitation of slimserver that it
cannot use mapped drives for getting music? I have all my storage drives
on my linux machine but wanted to run Slimserver on my easier install
Win2k3 Server. I can certainly put slimserver on my linux box if need
be. I wanted to check out the slimserver/softsqueeze a bit before I
ordered an SB2 to replace my Audiotron.

thank you...

jess

Pat Farrell
2005-03-13, 22:23
On Sun, 2005-03-13 at 22:13 -0700, Jess Askey wrote:
> I have my music on a seperate server (mandrake9) from my slimserver
> machine(Win2K3) that shares my music via smb and I have it mapped to
> my slimserver computer as my z: drive. When I configure slimserver to
> scan z:\, it returns an error saying 'Oops - "Z:" doesn't seem to be a
> valid directory. Try again.' Is this a limitation of slimserver that
> it cannot use mapped drives for getting music?

There are known problems with MS services accessing network drives,
check the group's archives. I don't keep up with the details
because I run mine on one of my linux boxes.... see below....


> I can certainly put slimserver on my linux box if need be.

I strongly suggest you try this. You just get the RPM and install it
I've been running my slimserver on linux for years. Worked fine on
an old, slow P3-500 until it burned up (because I forgot to clean out
the dust bunnies in the fans).



Pat

Michael Amster
2005-03-13, 22:31
Ian Whalley wrote:

>>>cupboards, and will be not easily accessible. This makes
>>>most powered-speakers unsuitable, as I won't be able to turn
>>>them off when not in use.
>>>
>>>
>>I've got several pairs of self powered speakers that auto
>>detect and turn on and off in response to a signal. I use a
>>set of "AR Powered Partners" in my library with a
>>Squeezebox for exactly this reason, they are on top of
>>bookcases way out of reach. The PP are old, I got them at
>>least 14 years ago, you probably can find them on ebay.
>>They are very nice sounding, heavy, each is a triangle
>>about cut from a 10x10 square about four inches thick.
>>
>>
>
>That's very helpful, thanks. It lead be (indirectly) to the
>Advent AV570 (which you can find at J&R on Amazon), which
>has good reviews and also features auto-on. There's some
>evidence that these speakers are in some way related to the
>old Audio Research line, but it's a little hard to follow.
>
>
Anyone using a Henry Kloss Tivoli Radio 2? This seems like a nice unit
- looks like it requires an rca to phono plug adaptor, but should work.
My wife listens to NPR (KCRW in fact) most of the time on the radio, but
would like access to the server's music collection. I think this radio
would be the best of both worlds paired with a Squeezebox.

Jess Askey
2005-03-14, 00:08
Okay, I will try slimserver on my MDK box tomorrow then to see what
happens. It's an old PII-350 OC'ed to 550Mhz which still runs my live
PostgreSQL DB, Sendmail, BIND and Samba File Shares just fine on two
160GB drives. :-)

Pat Farrell wrote:

>On Sun, 2005-03-13 at 22:13 -0700, Jess Askey wrote:
>
>
>>I have my music on a seperate server (mandrake9) from my slimserver
>>machine(Win2K3) that shares my music via smb and I have it mapped to
>>my slimserver computer as my z: drive. When I configure slimserver to
>>scan z:\, it returns an error saying 'Oops - "Z:" doesn't seem to be a
>>valid directory. Try again.' Is this a limitation of slimserver that
>>it cannot use mapped drives for getting music?
>>
>>
>
>There are known problems with MS services accessing network drives,
>check the group's archives. I don't keep up with the details
>because I run mine on one of my linux boxes.... see below....
>
>
>
>
>> I can certainly put slimserver on my linux box if need be.
>>
>>
>
>I strongly suggest you try this. You just get the RPM and install it
>I've been running my slimserver on linux for years. Worked fine on
>an old, slow P3-500 until it burned up (because I forgot to clean out
>the dust bunnies in the fans).
>
>
>
>Pat
>
>
>
>

Ian Whalley
2005-03-14, 06:31
>>That's very helpful, thanks. It lead be (indirectly) to the
>>Advent AV570 (which you can find at J&R on Amazon)
>The photos of the advents look exactly like my AR Powered Partners.
[...]
>Whatever, I do like my Powered Partners. They actually
>sound good, which is much better than most PC speakers

The reviews there and elsewhere were encouraging.


>Be warned, they are heavy

10lbs each, apparently! Will let you know how they work out
(they will arrive well in advance of the SB2 :)).

inw

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Ian Whalley <first name> @ <last name> . org

Jack Coates
2005-03-14, 08:22
Jess Askey wrote:
> Hello all...
>
> I have my music on a seperate server (mandrake9) from my slimserver
> machine(Win2K3) that shares my music via smb and I have it mapped to my
> slimserver computer as my z: drive. When I configure slimserver to scan
> z:\, it returns an error saying '*Oops - "Z:" doesn't seem to be a valid
> directory. Try again.*' Is this a limitation of slimserver that it
> cannot use mapped drives for getting music? I have all my storage drives
> on my linux machine but wanted to run Slimserver on my easier install
> Win2k3 Server. I can certainly put slimserver on my linux box if need
> be. I wanted to check out the slimserver/softsqueeze a bit before I
> ordered an SB2 to replace my Audiotron.
>
> thank you...
>
> jess

another option is to use the UNC path instead.

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Riding the Emergency Third Rail Power Trip since 1996!

Jess Askey
2005-03-14, 23:22
Ahhh, nice. I hadn't thought of that. Why walk around the block when the
goodies are right next door. :-)

Jack Coates wrote:

> Jess Askey wrote:
>
>> Hello all...
>>
>> I have my music on a seperate server (mandrake9) from my slimserver
>> machine(Win2K3) that shares my music via smb and I have it mapped to
>> my slimserver computer as my z: drive. When I configure slimserver to
>> scan z:\, it returns an error saying '*Oops - "Z:" doesn't seem to be
>> a valid directory. Try again.*' Is this a limitation of slimserver
>> that it cannot use mapped drives for getting music? I have all my
>> storage drives on my linux machine but wanted to run Slimserver on my
>> easier install Win2k3 Server. I can certainly put slimserver on my
>> linux box if need be. I wanted to check out the
>> slimserver/softsqueeze a bit before I ordered an SB2 to replace my
>> Audiotron.
>>
>> thank you...
>>
>> jess
>
>
> another option is to use the UNC path instead.
>

Ian Whalley
2005-03-17, 07:39
>>That's very helpful, thanks. It lead be (indirectly) to the
>>Advent AV570 (which you can find at J&R on Amazon)
>The photos of the advents look exactly like my AR Powered Partners.
>Whatever, I do like my Powered Partners. They actually sound good,
>which is much better than most PC speakers.

They actually sound really good (reader beware: author is
not from the oxygen-free-gold-speaker-wire school of audio,
but instead from the no-obvious-humming-or-silly-noises-or-
-audible-artifacts school of audio).

The auto-off appears to work too, although I haven't yet
plugged in a power monitor to see how much it actually
changes the amount of power being drawn.

They are installed in the kitchen awaiting their SB2.

Best;

inw

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