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  • Richard Elen

    ripping vinyl

    Glad you found the comments helpful. BTW, of course I could have
    suggested Googling for tips on this, but a) I assumed people would know
    to do that anyway, and b) I have my own ideas on this and I don't know
    what you'll be told if you pick up stuff indiscriminately from the Net!

    One thing I should have mentioned is that you should do your digital
    conversion at 24-bit word length. Most decent A/D converters claim
    24-bit resolution and some of them nearly manage it. 24 bit means a
    theoretical dynamic range of 144dB, which of course you can't do in real
    life. A properly-dithered 20-bit signal has more dynamic range
    capability than we can hear, but not everything is properly dithered and
    having a few bits in hand is both easy and safe. If you do any DSP
    operations, you add bits. When you've finished, dither back down to
    whatever suits you, using TPDF dither or a super-optimised dither like
    UV22HR (NOT Pow-r or SuperBitmapping).

    As far as sample rates are concerned, you might want to sample at 88.2
    or 96 kHz if you can. This is actually complete overkill (52kHz is quite
    enough) but if you sample at lower rates you may run into audible
    artefacts caused by filtering. In a professional system using
    oversampling this isn't an issue, but unless you have specific knowledge
    that this is how the system does it, playing safe just makes the files
    bigger. After you've finished processing, by all means sample rate
    convert - you may find that you get better-sounding results

    Is ripping from vinyl worth the effort? Yes of course, if your fave
    albums never came out on CD. My vinyl collection now consists solely of
    discs that have my name on them somewhere and never got reissued. Often
    but not always I have master copies on tape, but it's nice to have the
    artwork for ego satisfaction purposes.

    Is it expensive to get good results? Yes and no. If the vinyl is the
    only way you know the album, then you want your ripped version either to
    sound as good, or to sound good enough for the application - if you
    always listen at home on your home theater system you will want higher
    quality (and maybe lossless encoding); if you always listen instead on
    your iPod Shuffle with tiny in-ear phones, you may be less critical.

    On Windows, you could start with an Audigy 2 or 4 system with the
    outboard converter box, for example, and Adobe Audition, formerly
    CoolEdit; or on Mac with an Apogee MiniMe and DSP Quattro, for example;
    a decent turntable and a new stylus, and get excellent results. The main
    thing you'll probably spend is time, if you want to de-click and
    de-noise and do it carefully and at least semi-manually to get a mostly
    flawless result. Then keep those originals for next year when everything
    is lossless and higher quality and your original AAC files are no longer
    good enough and you want to reprocess them...

    Hope this helps a little more...
    --Richard E

    > From: Jonathan Buschmann <Jonathan.Buschmann (AT) ericsson (DOT) com>


    > Thanks. Great info.
    > I had read some place before that ripping LPs was was probably more
    > trouble than it was worth. Then I saw people on Slim MLs speaking about
    > things like ripping to 24bit samples, and I thought maybe I shouldn't
    > throw away my LPs yet! OTOH from what you say I guess I shouldn't regret
    > having rebought many of my favorite albums on CD. (The thing that bugs
    > me ofcourse is paying the IP rights twice. Wouldn't it be great if music
    > houses were required give you a rebate on your purchase of a CD by
    > trading in an LP!)
    > Still, it sounds like an expensive proposition to get good results.
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