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David Lister
2005-03-08, 06:10
I have just downloaded Slimserver 5.4, with a view to buying a Squeezebox
in the future.

I can play mp3 files ok in my software mp3 player (jetAudio).

However, I am unable to play wav or flac files.

The 'PLAY' button at the top of the right hand pane in Slimserver is
ineffective (it should turn orange when pressed).

I have tried various wav files (all 14400, 16 bit) - they all fail.

Can anyone please help? Why is Slimserver only able to play mp3?

What am I doing wrong?

Regards
David Lister
17 Hill Avenue
Grantham
Lincs
NG31 9BA

01476 564771

Aaron Zinck
2005-03-08, 06:57
You probably need to install lame_enc.dll in your slimserver bin directory.
You need this for slimserver to be able to convert from raw (wav) to mp3 for
streaming to your music player. If you want to get the complete feel for
what a squeezebox is like you should try out softsqueeze--it's exactly like
a squeezebox (and if you don't want to compromise the sound quality of your
flacs sotsqueeze will allow streaming of the uncompressed wav without
conversion to mp3).

David Lister
2005-03-08, 07:27
Thanks for your help.

I know that lame is not installed on my system (Windows 2000) - I have had
an error message informing me of this when attempting to convert flac to
mp3 streaming (in order to see if flac/mp3 conversion would work after
flac/wav streaming didn't work).

My impression is that I should be able to play flac files as a wav stream
(without converting to mp3).

Wav File Format - Wav Stream Format is built in to Slimserver (File
Types|File Format Conversion Setup)

I did try softsqueeze - I wasn't able to install it. I double-clicked on
softsqueeze.jnlp - Java Webstart came up with an error message 'Unable to
launch the specified application'

(An error occurred while launching/running the application.

Category: Launch File Error

The field <jnlp>codebase has an invalid value: http://[% host
%]/html/softsqueeze/)

I didn't pursue this any further (I launched softsqueeze.jnlp from C:\test
- was this the wrong thing to do?)

If I get a Squeezebox I will want to stream my flac collection. To do this
I will need to get familiar with Slimserver. Apart from streaming mp3
(which I don't need), I'm not having much luck.

At 08:57 08/03/2005 -0500, you wrote:
>You probably need to install lame_enc.dll in your slimserver bin directory.
>You need this for slimserver to be able to convert from raw (wav) to mp3 for
>streaming to your music player. If you want to get the complete feel for
>what a squeezebox is like you should try out softsqueeze--it's exactly like
>a squeezebox (and if you don't want to compromise the sound quality of your
>flacs sotsqueeze will allow streaming of the uncompressed wav without
>conversion to mp3).
>
>
>
>

Aaron Zinck
2005-03-08, 07:34
"David Lister" wrote
> Thanks for your help.

No problem

> I know that lame is not installed on my system (Windows 2000) - I have had
> an error message informing me of this when attempting to convert flac to
> mp3 streaming (in order to see if flac/mp3 conversion would work after
> flac/wav streaming didn't work).
>
> My impression is that I should be able to play flac files as a wav stream
> (without converting to mp3).

This is true in the case of softsqueeze or a squeezebox--however when
streaming through the http://slimserverip:9000/stream.mp3 method it all has
to be streamed as mp3, so you'll need lame to convert the wav to mp3.

> I did try softsqueeze - I wasn't able to install it. I double-clicked on
> softsqueeze.jnlp - Java Webstart came up with an error message 'Unable to
> launch the specified application'

The easiest way to launch softsqueeze is to do it through the web interface.
You'll find it on the main menu of the web interface down at the bottom in
the "help" section. There's a link on that page to install and run
softsqueeze right from there with no other configuration needed.

David Lister
2005-03-08, 09:20
Thanks for clearing up my confusion regarding flac streaming when not using
Squeezebox or Softsqueeze.

I have got Softsqueeze working OK and playing flac files.

I will install lame to see if I can get flac/mp3 streaming working.

Can you possibly clear up two other things that I can't understand.

1/ After starting Softsqueeze I am able to browse all my albums by searching *

I am able to see all the albums on a full=screen display, and am able to
scroll through them in order to select which ones I want to play.

If I get a Squeezebox, there won't be a full-screen display. How will I be
able to scroll/browse through my collection (I know I will be able to
search for specific albums/tiles/artists, but I would like to be able to
browse as well).

2/ I am able to select and play albums from within Softsqueeze with no
problems.

How can I use Slimserver to control what is being played on Softsqueeze - I
can see the playlist, Slimserver says 'Now Playing', but nothing seems to
be happening. Is it possible to control album playing in Softsqueeze from
Slimserver?


>> I know that lame is not installed on my system (Windows 2000) - I have had
>> an error message informing me of this when attempting to convert flac to
>> mp3 streaming (in order to see if flac/mp3 conversion would work after
>> flac/wav streaming didn't work).
>>
>> My impression is that I should be able to play flac files as a wav stream
>> (without converting to mp3).
>
>This is true in the case of softsqueeze or a squeezebox--however when
>streaming through the http://slimserverip:9000/stream.mp3 method it all has
>to be streamed as mp3, so you'll need lame to convert the wav to mp3.
>
>> I did try softsqueeze - I wasn't able to install it. I double-clicked on
>> softsqueeze.jnlp - Java Webstart came up with an error message 'Unable to
>> launch the specified application'
>
>The easiest way to launch softsqueeze is to do it through the web interface.
>You'll find it on the main menu of the web interface down at the bottom in
>the "help" section. There's a link on that page to install and run
>softsqueeze right from there with no other configuration needed.
>
>
>
>

kdf
2005-03-08, 10:30
Quoting David Lister <dl (AT) owm (DOT) co.uk>:

> 1/ After starting Softsqueeze I am able to browse all my albums by searching
> *
>
> I am able to see all the albums on a full=screen display, and am able to
> scroll through them in order to select which ones I want to play.
>
> If I get a Squeezebox, there won't be a full-screen display. How will I be
> able to scroll/browse through my collection (I know I will be able to
> search for specific albums/tiles/artists, but I would like to be able to
> browse as well).

The web interface allows full browsing by artist, genre, album and by album
artwork(and in the upcoming 6.0: new music, year). Adding items from teh web
interface of slimserver will play them on your player.

> 2/ I am able to select and play albums from within Softsqueeze with no
> problems.
>
> How can I use Slimserver to control what is being played on Softsqueeze - I
> can see the playlist, Slimserver says 'Now Playing', but nothing seems to
> be happening. Is it possible to control album playing in Softsqueeze from
> Slimserver?

the slimserver GUI is basically a web interface. The default skin refreshes
every 30 seconds, so unless you initiate control from the GUI (or any browser
on any computer pointed to http://serverIP:9000/) then you would have to wait
for that refresh in order to get an updated status on the player. The right
side fo teh GUI is your current state, topped by a status pane, and the
playlist below. On the left you should see a list of browse, search, settings,
and help items to choose from. Browse and Search let you add songs to your
player(s)' current playlist.

cheers,
kdf

David Lister
2005-03-08, 11:36
Thanks - it's all becoming a lot clearer now.

Regards
>
>> 1/ After starting Softsqueeze I am able to browse all my albums by
searching
>> *
>>
>> I am able to see all the albums on a full=screen display, and am able to
>> scroll through them in order to select which ones I want to play.
>>
>> If I get a Squeezebox, there won't be a full-screen display. How will I be
>> able to scroll/browse through my collection (I know I will be able to
>> search for specific albums/tiles/artists, but I would like to be able to
>> browse as well).
>
>The web interface allows full browsing by artist, genre, album and by album
>artwork(and in the upcoming 6.0: new music, year). Adding items from teh web
>interface of slimserver will play them on your player.
>
>> 2/ I am able to select and play albums from within Softsqueeze with no
>> problems.
>>
>> How can I use Slimserver to control what is being played on Softsqueeze - I
>> can see the playlist, Slimserver says 'Now Playing', but nothing seems to
>> be happening. Is it possible to control album playing in Softsqueeze from
>> Slimserver?
>
>the slimserver GUI is basically a web interface. The default skin refreshes
>every 30 seconds, so unless you initiate control from the GUI (or any browser
>on any computer pointed to http://serverIP:9000/) then you would have to wait
>for that refresh in order to get an updated status on the player. The right
>side fo teh GUI is your current state, topped by a status pane, and the
>playlist below. On the left you should see a list of browse, search,
settings,
>and help items to choose from. Browse and Search let you add songs to your
>player(s)' current playlist.
>
>cheers,
>kdf
>

Aaron Zinck
2005-03-08, 11:53
> If I get a Squeezebox, there won't be a full-screen display. How will I be
> able to scroll/browse through my collection (I know I will be able to
> search for specific albums/tiles/artists, but I would like to be able to
> browse as well).

In softsqueeze use the arrow keys to navigate the interface. Left arrow
goes back up the menu hierarchy, up and down arrows browse throught the
selections at the current menu level, and the right arrow selects the
current selection and drills deeper into the hierarchy. Softsqueeze (like
the squeezebox) allows full navigation and browsing of your music by album,
artist, and genre. You'll find the "Browse Music" option at the highest
level of the menu hierarchy.

David Lister
2005-03-08, 17:24
Thanks once again.

I eventually worked out the navigation - it works as well as as I hoped it
would.

What I really like is the 'Browse Music Folder' option - no matter how
badly I organise my albums in Explorer/PowerDesk I will always be able to
find everything I've ripped without too much trouble.

I've added lame.exe to Bin\MSWin32-x86-multi-thread - I can stream to
jetAudio now.

PS: I'll get a Squeezebox when it supports WPA and 802.11g (I believe it is
only 802.11b at the moment).

Regards



At 13:53 08/03/2005 -0500, you wrote:
>> If I get a Squeezebox, there won't be a full-screen display. How will I be
>> able to scroll/browse through my collection (I know I will be able to
>> search for specific albums/tiles/artists, but I would like to be able to
>> browse as well).
>
>In softsqueeze use the arrow keys to navigate the interface. Left arrow
>goes back up the menu hierarchy, up and down arrows browse throught the
>selections at the current menu level, and the right arrow selects the
>current selection and drills deeper into the hierarchy. Softsqueeze (like
>the squeezebox) allows full navigation and browsing of your music by album,
>artist, and genre. You'll find the "Browse Music" option at the highest
>level of the menu hierarchy.
>
>
>
>

seanadams
2005-03-08, 17:27
>
> PS: I'll get a Squeezebox when it supports WPA and 802.11g (I believe
> it is
> only 802.11b at the moment).
>

Hold your breath.