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2004-08-23, 11:32
Hi,

I've seen some traffic about this but it's only since I've been ripping more
and more music and therefore listening with my squeezebox more and more that
I've become more aware of the issue.

Basically, the lower 50-60% of the volume range of the Squeezebox is
unusable - anything below "20" is effectively silence. It then takes ten
steps (20 - 30) to get to what I would describe as "quiet". A further 5
steps (30 - 35) takes me to "moderate" volume. Then there is a real jump in
the final 5 steps.

Whilst I agree that the volume curve should be exponential (see
http://www.dr-lex.34sp.com/info-stuff/volumecontrols.html for a discussion)
I think the curve used by the squeezebox is too extreme.

Can anything be done about this? I'd really like to have a broader range of
volume control.

R.
--
http://robinbowes.com

dean
2004-08-23, 13:05
Robin,

What kind of device are you connected to? What's the gain level on
the input?

On Aug 23, 2004, at 11:32 AM, <robin-lists (AT) robinbowes (DOT) com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I've seen some traffic about this but it's only since I've been
> ripping more
> and more music and therefore listening with my squeezebox more and
> more that
> I've become more aware of the issue.
>
> Basically, the lower 50-60% of the volume range of the Squeezebox is
> unusable - anything below "20" is effectively silence. It then takes
> ten
> steps (20 - 30) to get to what I would describe as "quiet". A further 5
> steps (30 - 35) takes me to "moderate" volume. Then there is a real
> jump in
> the final 5 steps.
>
> Whilst I agree that the volume curve should be exponential (see
> http://www.dr-lex.34sp.com/info-stuff/volumecontrols.html for a
> discussion)
> I think the curve used by the squeezebox is too extreme.
>
> Can anything be done about this? I'd really like to have a broader
> range of
> volume control.
>
> R.
> --
> http://robinbowes.com
>
>

Carsten Bormann
2004-08-25, 15:01
On Aug 23 2004, at 20:32 Uhr, <robin-lists (AT) robinbowes (DOT) com> wrote:

> Basically, the lower 50-60% of the volume range of the Squeezebox is
> unusable - anything below "20" is effectively silence. It then takes
> ten
> steps (20 - 30) to get to what I would describe as "quiet". A further 5
> steps (30 - 35) takes me to "moderate" volume. Then there is a real
> jump in
> the final 5 steps.

http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=149

I think that Sean's requirement to have many superquiet positions for
headphoning and our requirement to have many positions that are useful
for the 100mV line level that consumer audio gear expects cannot be
fulfilled without going to more than 40 steps.

Why 40, anyway?

(Alternatively, there could be more than one analog gain control mode,
just as we are currently selecting between analog gain control and
digital signal munging control.)

Gruesse, Carsten

Robert Moser
2004-08-25, 15:19
Carsten Bormann wrote:
> Why 40, anyway?

The 40 is due to the number of characters available per line of the
original display. That way each step is one character (a full block)
for the volume bar.