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Jan van Mourik
2005-02-21, 13:40
Thanks Robin, this made me feel better :-) I got my wireless squeezebox last
week, and of course started wondering right away if maybe I should have gotton
the wired version plus a 802.11g game adapter. But my sb is the only wireless
consumer, my pcs are all wired. And my signal strength is ~ 70%. Distance to
router is about 11ft through 2 walls.
I could imagine though that 11g would give better range and signal strength. Or
that maybe at some point I should replace my (belkin) 11b router with an 11N
router, also for range. Any thoughts on that?

jan van mourik
www.rhdba.com
>
> 802.11b bit rate: 11Mb/s
>
> PCM bit rate: 44,100 x 16 x 2 = 1.41 Mb/s
>
> Even allowing for other traffic, there is ample bandwidth to stream PCM
> over 801.11b - I'm doing it here (flac files streamed as PCM) without
> any network dropouts whatsoever.
>

Robin Bowes
2005-02-21, 14:03
Jan van Mourik wrote:

> I could imagine though that 11g would give better range and signal strength. Or
> that maybe at some point I should replace my (belkin) 11b router with an 11N
> router, also for range. Any thoughts on that?

If you want more range and signal strength look into building a
directional antenna.

Or get an 11g game adapter. But you only need to do that if you're
having problems.

I'm actually considering getting an old 11b AP so I can use my 11g AP
for other things.

R.

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Michael Amster
2005-02-21, 15:08
People with range problems should look into getting a Linksys and then
running the Sveasoft firmware on it. The Sveasoft firmware allows for
(an illegal in the US) power boost for the transmitter. My WAP54g now
gets 100% coverage where I need it in my 2000 sq. ft. house - I have not
tried the kitchen in a while, but this is a very recommended free or $20
upgrade (I paid since it was a good thing).

-MA

Robin Bowes wrote:

> Jan van Mourik wrote:
>
>> I could imagine though that 11g would give better range and signal
>> strength. Or
>> that maybe at some point I should replace my (belkin) 11b router with
>> an 11N
>> router, also for range. Any thoughts on that?
>
>
> If you want more range and signal strength look into building a
> directional antenna.
>
> Or get an 11g game adapter. But you only need to do that if you're
> having problems.
>
> I'm actually considering getting an old 11b AP so I can use my 11g AP
> for other things.
>
> R.
>

Robin Bowes
2005-02-21, 15:26
Michael Amster wrote:
> People with range problems should look into getting a Linksys and then
> running the Sveasoft firmware on it. The Sveasoft firmware allows for
> (an illegal in the US) power boost for the transmitter. My WAP54g now
> gets 100% coverage where I need it in my 2000 sq. ft. house - I have not
> tried the kitchen in a while, but this is a very recommended free or $20
> upgrade (I paid since it was a good thing).

True. I'd forgotten about that. I have a WRT54G with the Sveasoft
firmware - not using it at the moment for my Squeezebox since it is
currently only 5ft from the AP (through a wall, admittedly!)

R.
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Daryle A. Tilroe
2005-02-22, 21:48
Robin Bowes wrote:

> firmware - not using it at the moment for my Squeezebox since it is
> currently only 5ft from the AP (through a wall, admittedly!)

LOL! OK I give up. If you are 5 ft from the access point then
of course there will virtually no issues at 1.4Mbps.

--
Daryle A. Tilroe

momerath
2005-02-22, 22:23
> LOL! OK I give up. If you are 5 ft from the access point then
> of course there will virtually no issues at 1.4Mbps.
>
> --
> Daryle A. Tilroe

Oh how I wish that were true:) I had dropouts all day today with the
squeezebox no more than 3 feet from the AP and nothing but air in
between. And in a hospital where cellphones and wifi are forbidden
(though most people in my area of the building disregard the former).
I'm not entirely sure its the wifi, though. I get no dropouts wired;
maybe theres some io scheduling issues with the single threaded nature
of slimserver that only come up with wireless (or my wireless driver).
I reniced it as high as it would go with minimal (possibly even
coincidental) effect. I also tried the latest nightly 6.0, which
skipped at least as much. I mentioned this in a thread of my own, but
since noone's responded... ;)

Things I'll be trying next (PLEASE help me add to this list):
-a more mainstream kernel(but not too mainstream; my root fs is reiser4)
-enabling various debug flags in slimserver (none of them look real
promising to me, but its worth a try- could use some input on this)
-trying it in windows (not sure whether this is possible- the notebook
as access point (easy in linux) or the sb in ad-hoc mode(no
documentation or option that I can find and doesnt "just work"))
-various antenna arangements (it has occured to me that, perhaps, the
signal is too strong: obscure it; otherwise build a directional
antenna)
-shielding my backpack (in addition to operating between the desk and
floor, I need my notebook and SB to talk within the same backpack
(different pockets))

Daryle A. Tilroe
2005-02-22, 22:37
momerath wrote:

>>LOL! OK I give up. If you are 5 ft from the access point then
>>of course there will virtually no issues at 1.4Mbps.
>>
>>--
>>Daryle A. Tilroe
>
>
> Oh how I wish that were true:) I had dropouts all day today with the
> squeezebox no more than 3 feet from the AP and nothing but air in
> between. And in a hospital where cellphones and wifi are forbidden

Did you crack the case and check the internal antenna wiring?

--
Daryle A. Tilroe

Jack Coates
2005-02-22, 22:57
momerath wrote:
>>LOL! OK I give up. If you are 5 ft from the access point then
>>of course there will virtually no issues at 1.4Mbps.
>>
>>--
>>Daryle A. Tilroe
>
>
> Oh how I wish that were true:) I had dropouts all day today with the
> squeezebox no more than 3 feet from the AP and nothing but air in
> between. And in a hospital where cellphones and wifi are forbidden
> (though most people in my area of the building disregard the former).
> I'm not entirely sure its the wifi, though. I get no dropouts wired;
> maybe theres some io scheduling issues with the single threaded nature
> of slimserver that only come up with wireless (or my wireless driver).
> I reniced it as high as it would go with minimal (possibly even
> coincidental) effect. I also tried the latest nightly 6.0, which
> skipped at least as much. I mentioned this in a thread of my own, but
> since noone's responded... ;)

I've been too busy giggling at the image of the little girl from
Airplane, when the folk-singing stewardess keeps pulling out the IV with
her guitar.... only instead of the stewardess, it's you and your
backpack rig walking up and down the hallway :)

--
Jack at Monkeynoodle dot Org: It's a Scientific Venture...
Riding the Emergency Third Rail Power Trip since 1996!

Robin Bowes
2005-02-23, 01:39
Daryle A. Tilroe wrote:
> Robin Bowes wrote:
>
>> firmware - not using it at the moment for my Squeezebox since it is
>> currently only 5ft from the AP (through a wall, admittedly!)
>
>
> LOL! OK I give up. If you are 5 ft from the access point then
> of course there will virtually no issues at 1.4Mbps.

I never suggested anything otherwise! :)

R.
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