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Damon Riley
2005-01-22, 06:04
Hi!

This is not a technical question. The convenience of the Squeezebox has
revived my interest in music in a way that a 5-disc CD player never
did. I want to go out and find new and old music to fill my server.

My question is, where do you like to shop for downloadable music? I've
had some luck with emusic.com but they don't always have the music I want.

Every place I've seen makes you "join" and then pay a monthly fee. I
think this bites, because not every site has every song, and because
most are quite vague up front about what restrictions they are using to
cripple your Fair Use.

So, I don't want to start an argument about which site is best, I just
want to know what you use and why you like it.

For my part, I like eMusic because they have some oldies I wanted
(Creedence, Kinks, Booker T & the MGs) and some newer stuff, like
Bonepony. They do charge a monthy fee, which I dislike, but they are
completely DRM free and their download manager is available for Linux.

So, where do you shop & why?

-- Damon
= -= -= -= -= -= -= -= -= -= -= -= -= -= -= -= -= -= -=
Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by
smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who
really mean it. -Mark Twain (1835-1910)

Jeffrey Gordon
2005-01-22, 06:41
I have not really found the download sites to be that great, rather
expensive for what you get. The quality is sub par compared to a CD yet
cost almost as much.. Yeah you can buy just the songs you want from a CD
and not the whole CD, but I like buying the whole CD cause I get to hear
songs that are NOT on the radio.

Also buying the CD, I can rip it to any format I want (usually FLAC) and
then store the CD as a backup for WHEN my harddrive dies. Actually I
have recently mad DVD backups of the FLAC files, but never hurts to have
extra backups. The DVDs are kept at the office.

Damon Riley wrote:

> Hi!
>
> This is not a technical question. The convenience of the Squeezebox
> has revived my interest in music in a way that a 5-disc CD player
> never did. I want to go out and find new and old music to fill my
> server.
>
> My question is, where do you like to shop for downloadable music?
> I've had some luck with emusic.com but they don't always have the
> music I want.
>
> Every place I've seen makes you "join" and then pay a monthly fee. I
> think this bites, because not every site has every song, and because
> most are quite vague up front about what restrictions they are using
> to cripple your Fair Use.
>
> So, I don't want to start an argument about which site is best, I just
> want to know what you use and why you like it.
>
> For my part, I like eMusic because they have some oldies I wanted
> (Creedence, Kinks, Booker T & the MGs) and some newer stuff, like
> Bonepony. They do charge a monthy fee, which I dislike, but they are
> completely DRM free and their download manager is available for Linux.
>
> So, where do you shop & why?
>
> -- Damon
> = -= -= -= -= -= -= -= -= -= -= -= -= -= -= -= -= -= -=
> Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by
> smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who
> really mean it. -Mark Twain (1835-1910)
>

Kevin O. Lepard
2005-01-22, 10:20
>My question is, where do you like to shop for downloadable music?

I generally prefer to buy physical CDs. I get an uncompressed
physical backup that I can store and once you remove the disk from
the jewel case it doesn't take up much space in a binder.

I have used the iTunes Music Store, which I have found
well-organized, easy to use, and should be legal.

I've looked at allofmp3.com, but it's based in Russia as I understand
it and I am somewhat uncertain of their legal status so have never
used them. However, they do offer both MP3 and FLAC downloads.
Having FLACs to download is a real plus in my mind.

Kevin
--
Kevin O. Lepard
kolepard (AT) charter (DOT) net

Happiness is being 100% Microsoft free.

Jack Coates
2005-01-22, 13:46
> Hi!
....
> For my part, I like eMusic because they have some oldies I wanted
> (Creedence, Kinks, Booker T & the MGs) and some newer stuff, like
> Bonepony. They do charge a monthy fee, which I dislike, but they are
> completely DRM free and their download manager is available for Linux.
>
> So, where do you shop & why?
>
> -- Damon

Not sure if this helps, but I just use emusic for downloads. It's been
good exposure to music that I wouldn't have heard enough to recognize
otherwise, and I've picked up some new favorite albums from it (currently
I'm enjoying Yo La Tengo quite a bit).

I also trade my CDs in at a local used record shop and buy new ones from
them about once or twice a year; this is usually how I fill in stuff that
I used to own in another media (like Led Zeppelin and Jethro Tull). One of
these days the RIAA will probably try to throw me in jail for this... I
just hope they let me bring a copy of Johnny Cash's "Live at Folsom
Prison".

There's also a bit of Amazon CD purchasing going on, but not a lot -- I
prefer to support the used record store, which provides employment for
another musician I like a lot (Barbara Manning). You can get her albums on
emusic too :)

--
Jack At Monkeynoodle.Org: It's A Scientific Venture...
"Believe what you're told; there'd be chaos if everyone thought for
themselves." -- Top Dog hotdog stand, Berkeley, CA

Robert Wallace
2005-01-22, 15:16
I started seriously shopping the used CD stores. It appears that many
people rip their CDs then sell them - imagine that!

I've found a lot of excellent titles in the bins.

Robert

Damon Riley wrote:

> Hi!
>
> This is not a technical question. The convenience of the Squeezebox
> has revived my interest in music in a way that a 5-disc CD player
> never did. I want to go out and find new and old music to fill my
> server.
>
> My question is, where do you like to shop for downloadable music?
> I've had some luck with emusic.com but they don't always have the
> music I want.
>
> Every place I've seen makes you "join" and then pay a monthly fee. I
> think this bites, because not every site has every song, and because
> most are quite vague up front about what restrictions they are using
> to cripple your Fair Use.
>
> So, I don't want to start an argument about which site is best, I just
> want to know what you use and why you like it.
>
> For my part, I like eMusic because they have some oldies I wanted
> (Creedence, Kinks, Booker T & the MGs) and some newer stuff, like
> Bonepony. They do charge a monthy fee, which I dislike, but they are
> completely DRM free and their download manager is available for Linux.
>
> So, where do you shop & why?
>
> -- Damon
> = -= -= -= -= -= -= -= -= -= -= -= -= -= -= -= -= -= -=
> Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by
> smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who
> really mean it. -Mark Twain (1835-1910)
>

Matthew Wright
2005-01-22, 15:28
In the UK, there is a new-ish magazine called Rip & Burn which has a lot of
information about download sites, reviews of new music available for download,
and freebie downloads to try. I've not downloaded too much stuff, but it might
be worth a look if you're interested.

Daryle A. Tilroe
2005-01-23, 17:55
Damon Riley wrote:

> My question is, where do you like to shop for downloadable music? I've
> had some luck with emusic.com but they don't always have the music I want.

I don't download. I sometimes buy, sometimes borrow, and
sometimes take CDs out from the library and rip them all to
FLACs. Friends and the library are basically legit here in
Canada assuming you have paid the copyright fee on CDR/Ws.
While I am not actually burning a copy to CD I have paid for
many copies while buy CDR/Ws for data purposes. Anyhow I figure
since I have to break out the Brasso half the time to polish
them up to ripablity I am actually doing a public service.

--
Daryle A. Tilroe

Yan Tran
2005-01-26, 09:33
What I do is I find an internet radio station that streams mp3s with
music I like and I store the stream to mp3 files on my computer.


On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 08:04:05 -0500, Damon Riley
<damonriley (AT) alumni (DOT) umass.edu> wrote:
> Hi!
>
> This is not a technical question. The convenience of the Squeezebox has
> revived my interest in music in a way that a 5-disc CD player never
> did. I want to go out and find new and old music to fill my server.
>
> My question is, where do you like to shop for downloadable music? I've
> had some luck with emusic.com but they don't always have the music I want.
>
> Every place I've seen makes you "join" and then pay a monthly fee. I
> think this bites, because not every site has every song, and because
> most are quite vague up front about what restrictions they are using to
> cripple your Fair Use.
>
> So, I don't want to start an argument about which site is best, I just
> want to know what you use and why you like it.
>
> For my part, I like eMusic because they have some oldies I wanted
> (Creedence, Kinks, Booker T & the MGs) and some newer stuff, like
> Bonepony. They do charge a monthy fee, which I dislike, but they are
> completely DRM free and their download manager is available for Linux.
>
> So, where do you shop & why?
>
> -- Damon
> = -= -= -= -= -= -= -= -= -= -= -= -= -= -= -= -= -= -=
> Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by
> smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who
> really mean it. -Mark Twain (1835-1910)
>

Roy Owen
2005-01-26, 09:53
That works for ShoutCast streams but not for Live365.


On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 11:33:58 -0500, Yan Tran <yantran (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
> What I do is I find an internet radio station that streams mp3s with
> music I like and I store the stream to mp3 files on my computer.
>
> On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 08:04:05 -0500, Damon Riley
> <damonriley (AT) alumni (DOT) umass.edu> wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> > This is not a technical question. The convenience of the Squeezebox has
> > revived my interest in music in a way that a 5-disc CD player never
> > did. I want to go out and find new and old music to fill my server.
> >
> > My question is, where do you like to shop for downloadable music? I've
> > had some luck with emusic.com but they don't always have the music I want.
> >
> > Every place I've seen makes you "join" and then pay a monthly fee. I
> > think this bites, because not every site has every song, and because
> > most are quite vague up front about what restrictions they are using to
> > cripple your Fair Use.
> >
> > So, I don't want to start an argument about which site is best, I just
> > want to know what you use and why you like it.
> >
> > For my part, I like eMusic because they have some oldies I wanted
> > (Creedence, Kinks, Booker T & the MGs) and some newer stuff, like
> > Bonepony. They do charge a monthy fee, which I dislike, but they are
> > completely DRM free and their download manager is available for Linux.
> >
> > So, where do you shop & why?
> >
> > -- Damon
> > = -= -= -= -= -= -= -= -= -= -= -= -= -= -= -= -= -= -=
> > Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by
> > smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who
> > really mean it. -Mark Twain (1835-1910)
> >

Robin Bowes
2005-01-26, 17:32
Jason wrote:
> You can stream the output from SoftSqueeze or Winamp to a .wav file, it is
> stored on your computer but it's not like the music is terribly good quality
> and you would have to go in and edit the .wav file to cut it into separate
> tracks, create ID3V2 tags, etc.
>
> Live365.com would be a good place to start for looking at streaming mp3
> stations.

I have used Total Recorder to record a stream from the BBC website -
there was a play on Radio 4 I thought my Dad would like so I recorded
it, burnt it to CD and gave it to him for a Christmas present.

Tight? Me? :)

R.
--
http://robinbowes.com

Bruce Tucker
2005-01-27, 07:44
I too use Total Recorder on Live365 streams and I used to have stacks of
casette tapes of Vintage Jazz (KBCS) that I'd send my dad. Now I just play
the MP3s on my Slim.

Another way to go is to try StreamRipper
http://streamripper.sourceforge.net/ Just tune into a Shoutcast stream (or
several simultaineously!) and let it rip away for hours. It won't re-rip
songs it already did.

Bruce

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robin Bowes" <robin-lists (AT) robinbowes (DOT) com>
To: <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 4:32 PM
Subject: [slim] Where are you finding music for your SB?


> Jason wrote:
>> You can stream the output from SoftSqueeze or Winamp to a .wav file, it
>> is
>> stored on your computer but it's not like the music is terribly good
>> quality
>> and you would have to go in and edit the .wav file to cut it into
>> separate
>> tracks, create ID3V2 tags, etc.
>>
>> Live365.com would be a good place to start for looking at streaming mp3
>> stations.
>
> I have used Total Recorder to record a stream from the BBC website - there
> was a play on Radio 4 I thought my Dad would like so I recorded it, burnt
> it to CD and gave it to him for a Christmas present.
>
> Tight? Me? :)
>
> R.
> --
> http://robinbowes.com
>
>

Paul Holthuizen
2005-01-27, 09:01
Damon Riley <damonriley@...> writes:

>
> Hi!
>
> This is not a technical question. The convenience of the Squeezebox has
> revived my interest in music in a way that a 5-disc CD player never
> did. I want to go out and find new and old music to fill my server.
>
> My question is, where do you like to shop for downloadable music? I've
> had some luck with emusic.com but they don't always have the music I want.
>
> Every place I've seen makes you "join" and then pay a monthly fee. I
> think this bites, because not every site has every song, and because
> most are quite vague up front about what restrictions they are using to
> cripple your Fair Use.
>
> So, I don't want to start an argument about which site is best, I just
> want to know what you use and why you like it.
>
> For my part, I like eMusic because they have some oldies I wanted
> (Creedence, Kinks, Booker T & the MGs) and some newer stuff, like
> Bonepony. They do charge a monthy fee, which I dislike, but they are
> completely DRM free and their download manager is available for Linux.
>
> So, where do you shop & why?
>

Hi,

Yesterday I found http://www.magnatune.com/
They sell music from (yet unknown) artists as high quality no DRM MP3 or WAV,
and they let you listen to entire albums (stream 'm via Squeezebox) before you
buy. I haven't actually bought anything yet, but found they had some nice music
online as well as a fresh attitude to selling music over the internet.

Paul

Jack Coates
2005-01-27, 09:14
Paul Holthuizen wrote:
> Damon Riley <damonriley@...> writes:
>
>
>>Hi!
>>
>>This is not a technical question. The convenience of the Squeezebox has
>> revived my interest in music in a way that a 5-disc CD player never
>>did. I want to go out and find new and old music to fill my server.
>>
>>My question is, where do you like to shop for downloadable music? I've
>>had some luck with emusic.com but they don't always have the music I want.
>>
>>Every place I've seen makes you "join" and then pay a monthly fee. I
>>think this bites, because not every site has every song, and because
>>most are quite vague up front about what restrictions they are using to
>>cripple your Fair Use.
>>
>>So, I don't want to start an argument about which site is best, I just
>>want to know what you use and why you like it.
>>
>>For my part, I like eMusic because they have some oldies I wanted
>>(Creedence, Kinks, Booker T & the MGs) and some newer stuff, like
>>Bonepony. They do charge a monthy fee, which I dislike, but they are
>>completely DRM free and their download manager is available for Linux.
>>
>>So, where do you shop & why?
>>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Yesterday I found http://www.magnatune.com/
> They sell music from (yet unknown) artists as high quality no DRM MP3 or WAV,
> and they let you listen to entire albums (stream 'm via Squeezebox) before you
> buy. I haven't actually bought anything yet, but found they had some nice music
> online as well as a fresh attitude to selling music over the internet.
>
> Paul
>

See the writeup on http://creativecommons.org -- I used to work for John
Buckman at his email company, Lyris. Good folks.

--
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Riding the Emergency Third Rail Power Trip since 1996!