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Olaf
2005-01-22, 03:09
I spent endless hours last week getting about 24 different (vaguely) local
radio stations hooked up for the Mrs. Experienced, like so many others on
this forum before me, that SlimServer does not appear to support ASX as
advertised: I can only really stream MMS which rules out eg the BBC channels
which change their wretched MMS URL inside the constant ASX file all the
time. That aside, the other - obvious! - thing that I discovered is that it
really helps to have an open internet connection when trying to stream... ;(
Now here's my question: what change to my configuration do I need to make to
ensure that SlimServer dials a connection if one is not already present? My
Internet Options are all set to auto-dial, but that appears not to help...

Olaf
2005-01-23, 07:48
Thanks, Dean. That is useful advice. I am bit confused about the state of
the AlienBBC project. Initially it appeared to be available only on LINUX. I
saw that now there exists some Beta for WinXP but I got cold feed reading
through the instructions (installing mplayer and what have you). It said that
SlimServer 6 would include all this stuff. So, naively perhaps, I decided I
would wait for that to come around the corner soon.

But as regards my actual question, does AlienBBC actually dial an internet
connection when none's present?

kdf
2005-01-23, 08:01
Quoting Olaf <ovonrein (AT) btopenworld (DOT) com>:

> Thanks, Dean. That is useful advice. I am bit confused about the state of
> the AlienBBC project. Initially it appeared to be available only on LINUX.
> I
> saw that now there exists some Beta for WinXP but I got cold feed reading
> through the instructions (installing mplayer and what have you). It said
> that
> SlimServer 6 would include all this stuff. So, naively perhaps, I decided I
> would wait for that to come around the corner soon.
>
> But as regards my actual question, does AlienBBC actually dial an internet
> connection when none's present?
>
That would be up to the OS. Slimserver, and by extension, AlienBBC, assume a
connection exists. Slimserver, on startup, checks for upgrade information from
www.slimdevices.com (though you can disable this in server settings->behavior.
AlienBBC is designed for internet radio, so relies on a connection to the
internet. Windows should be able to be configured such that a dialup
connection will start when an application makes a request for an internet
address.

-kdf

Jules Taplin
2005-01-23, 11:25
Hi Olaf.

Just to be clear about AlienBBC stuff - there are no plans (as far as
I'm aware) for AlienBBC to be included
in slimserver v6.0 (I'm not opposed to it as an idea... but I'm not at
all sure that the added complexity of making
it all work would make it an obvious bedfellow for the 'core' distribution).

There are some bits and pieces that are getting stuffed into mainline
slimserver releases (basically some changes
that have made the modern versions of AlienBBC possible, and some
additional perl modules that simplify the
AlienBBC installation), but that's not the same as the main AlienBBC code.

At it's heart, AlienBBC is two things: A parser for BBC Radio web pages,
which displays menus, and let you pick
streams to be played. This stuff is relatively simple, and works fine
just about everywhere. The other half is the
bit that actually plays audio, and that relies on mplayer. It's doubtful
that this will ever get stuck into slimserver,
and whilst I'm sure there's some streamlining of the AlienBBC install
process possible, It's always going to be something
of a 'assemble all these pieces' kind of a thing.

And kdf's quite right about internet connections - AlienBBC simply asks
for a connection, and it's up to the machine how
that's satisfied. If you're machine is set to dial-on-demand, then it
will either dial, or drop a dialogue box, asking to dial.
The one thing I would say is that we've certainly never tested AlienBBC
without a broadband connection available, and it's
entirely possible that the delays inherant on dialup connections might
make it an unsatisfactory experience.

Best Regards,



Jules


kdf wrote:

>Quoting Olaf <ovonrein (AT) btopenworld (DOT) com>:
>
>
>
>>Thanks, Dean. That is useful advice. I am bit confused about the state of
>>the AlienBBC project. Initially it appeared to be available only on LINUX.
>>I
>>saw that now there exists some Beta for WinXP but I got cold feed reading
>>through the instructions (installing mplayer and what have you). It said
>>that
>>SlimServer 6 would include all this stuff. So, naively perhaps, I decided I
>>would wait for that to come around the corner soon.
>>
>>But as regards my actual question, does AlienBBC actually dial an internet
>>connection when none's present?
>>
>>
>>
>That would be up to the OS. Slimserver, and by extension, AlienBBC, assume a
>connection exists. Slimserver, on startup, checks for upgrade information from
>www.slimdevices.com (though you can disable this in server settings->behavior.
>AlienBBC is designed for internet radio, so relies on a connection to the
>internet. Windows should be able to be configured such that a dialup
>connection will start when an application makes a request for an internet
>address.
>
>-kdf
>

Olaf
2005-01-26, 15:06
> >Windows should be able to be configured such that a dialup
> >connection will start when an application makes a request for an internet
> >address.

Sorry, I did not explain my configuration: I run Win XP with SlimServer
5.4.0; I stream across a DSL line and all my Internet Options are set to
AutoDial - which all the usual applications (IE, Outlook, etc) also do. Only
the radio stream from my SlimServer does not...

Olaf
2005-02-08, 01:01
Dean <slimforum@...> writes:

>
> Below is an M3U playlist of talk radio stations that I listen to regularly.
> As you can see, there is a pretty even mix of MP3, RA, and WMA/ASF streams.

Thanks Dean. Following your post, I did install Alien BBC and the Mrs is now
happy that she can listen to all the radio stations she cares about. However,
one thing my box still does not do is to establish a connection when none is
present.

I am on Win XP running (a build of) 5.4.1. When I open IE, say, a connection
is immediately opened. This morning we overslept because our radio alarm was
rather silent...

mherger
2005-02-08, 22:35
What type of connection do you use?

>> Below is an M3U playlist of talk radio stations that I listen to
>> regularly.
>> As you can see, there is a pretty even mix of MP3, RA, and WMA/ASF
>> streams.
>
> Thanks Dean. Following your post, I did install Alien BBC and the Mrs
> is now
> happy that she can listen to all the radio stations she cares about.
> However,
> one thing my box still does not do is to establish a connection when
> none is
> present.
>
> I am on Win XP running (a build of) 5.4.1. When I open IE, say, a
> connection
> is immediately opened. This morning we overslept because our radio
> alarm was
> rather silent...
>
>
>
>
>
>

Olaf
2005-02-10, 16:03
>
> What type of connection do you use?
>

DSL. It's usually up ... unless it's down ;)

mherger
2005-02-10, 23:27
>> What type of connection do you use?
>>
>
> DSL. It's usually up ... unless it's down ;)

Are you connecting through a router or is it connected using USB? The
question is: has the computer to connect to the internet or is it done by
another device?

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Michael

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Olaf
2005-02-11, 16:57
Michael Herger <slim@...> writes:

>
> >> What type of connection do you use?
> >>
> >
> > DSL. It's usually up ... unless it's down ;)
>
> Are you connecting through a router or is it connected using USB? The
> question is: has the computer to connect to the internet or is it done by
> another device?
>

It's a USB modem. The computer has to connect. And it genuinely does not
seem like SlimServer was even trying to establish a connection.

mherger
2005-02-12, 03:30
[..]
>> Are you connecting through a router or is it connected using USB? The
>> question is: has the computer to connect to the internet or is it done
>> by
>> another device?
>>
>
> It's a USB modem. The computer has to connect. And it genuinely does
> not seem like SlimServer was even trying to establish a connection.

I never liked those USB modems ;-). Don't you have the option to "nail up"
the connection? Or disable the disconnect timeout? These are often
available from the modem's driver software.

--

Michael

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