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Donald MacNeill
2005-01-17, 10:49
Hi,

Not specifically a squeezebox question, but hopefully a few folk out there will have tackled this one.

I'm currently copying my old vinyl onto CD prior to ripping to the PC hard drive. This way I have a WAV version for future use, and an MP3 for streaming to the squeezebox.

The CD - computer work is done by EAC + LAME encoder - works plenty well enough for me.

I'm using Steinberg's 'Clean' software to record the vinyl - but the finished results seem a bit dull, and low volume by comparison to stuff ripped straight from 'proper' CDs.

Has anyone any other suggestions? I've done about 50/60 of 350, so if there's a better way I'd love to know about it sooner rather than later!

Thanks in advance

Donald

Thomas B. Malsbury
2005-01-17, 11:15
Donald MacNeill wrote:

> I'm currently copying my old vinyl onto CD prior to ripping to the PC
> hard drive.
>
> I'm using Steinberg's 'Clean' software to record the vinyl - but the
> finished results seem a bit dull, and low volume by comparison to
> stuff ripped straight from 'proper' CDs.
>
> Has anyone any other suggestions? I've done about 50/60 of 350, so if
> there's a better way I'd love to know about it sooner rather than later!
>

I have been looking into this one myself lately. Are you running the
turntable directly into the line in of your pc? If so this could be the
cause of the low volume. A good article I read on this is by Pat Norton
(formerly of TechTV)
(http://www.pcworld.com/howto/article/0,aid,117810,00.asp). It gives
you the basic steps and reviews some hardware phono preamps and some
software options.

Tom Malsbury

dbls
2005-01-17, 11:49
Donald MacNeill wrote:

> I'm currently copying my old vinyl onto CD prior to ripping to the PC hard drive. This way I have a WAV version for future use, and an MP3 for streaming to the squeezebox.
>
> The CD - computer work is done by EAC + LAME encoder - works plenty well enough for me.
>
> I'm using Steinberg's 'Clean' software to record the vinyl - but the finished results seem a bit dull, and low volume by comparison to stuff ripped straight from 'proper' CDs.
>

I just copied an LP through a receiver using the "Record WAV" option in EAC (in the Tools menu) which came out fine once I got the levels right, that is, with yellow showing only sporadically on EAC's meters. (In the Windows Volume Control, select Options -> Properties -> Recording to adjust.) I had to lower the levels to avoid clipping even though it sounded fine through the PC speakers.

I can't imagine doing 350 LPs this way, though...I convinced myself that it's much easier to buy the CD when possible, and trade in the LPs. The time savings alone is worth the price, especially since a lot of older albums are priced attractively. Not to mention better sound quality; I'm always surprised how many LPs that I used to think sounded fine have noticeable wow (due to an off-center hole). I guess we all were conditioned to it!

-:- dbls

ron thigpen
2005-01-17, 12:02
Donald MacNeill wrote:

> Has anyone any other suggestions? I've done about 50/60 of 350, so if
> there's a better way I'd love to know about it sooner rather than later!

sure.

step 1) consider your legally purchased vinyl record to be a license to
hold a backup copy of the music contained in that pressing.

step 2) log onto your favorite (free or for-pay) music service and
download a copy of that recording.

that's it.

i've "digitized" many of my LPs this way. while i generally don't have
control over the encoder, bit rates, noise reduction, etc., the savings
in time is remarkable.

sometimes i end up paying for them twice (when d/l'ing from emusic for
example), but it is still worth it for some of my favorite records.

mind you all of this is for convenience and portability's sake. when i
want it to sound best, i go right back to the vinyl.

--rt