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Joe Hickey
2005-01-12, 09:34
I'm sure you could put a bigger HD in it... Or get a bus powered
external F/W drive.... I've got a 40Gig Lacie Pocket drive that is
small and (almost) silent
Joe
On 12 Jan 2005, at 15:44, discuss-request (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com wrote:

> From: "Craig, James (IT)" <James.Craig (AT) morganstanley (DOT) com>
> Date: 12 January 2005 14:58:47 GMT
> To: "Slim Devices Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
> Subject: [slim] Nice box...
> Reply-To: Slim Devices Discussion <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
>
>
> Thanks all.
>
> Hmmmm - I think I have over 30Gb of MP3s now, although as I've finished
> ripping all my CDs that's not growing very fast
> (until I can face the vinyl)
>
> It's not exactly spacious with the 80Gb drive.
> And it would be a shame to ruin the appealing form factor with an
> external drive
> (not to mention the one I already have is too noisy for living room
> usage)
>
> James

Phil Wood
2005-01-13, 12:57
I misspoke. It's not a CARDbus drive, but a 2.5" notebook drive ...

.... and I see that there is now a 100G drive on the market, but at
$400 I can't see too many people retrofitting $500 miniMacs ...


On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 08:41:43 -0800, Phil Wood <woodp (AT) woodp (DOT) com> wrote:
> discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
> [mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hickey
> wrote:
>
> > I'm sure you could put a bigger HD in it...
>
> I don't think so ... at least not today. miniMac uses a Cardbus drive and I
> think 80G is the largest available ...

ron thigpen
2005-01-13, 13:04
and over time capacities will go up and prices will come down. but what
doesn't change is the fact that major storage for a device like this is
probably best left to fileservers attached to the local network. it's
whole form factor screams: "dedicated client machine".

which begs the question: does this thing have a GigE capable NIC in it?

--rt

Phil Wood wrote:
> I misspoke. It's not a CARDbus drive, but a 2.5" notebook drive ...
>
> ... and I see that there is now a 100G drive on the market, but at
> $400 I can't see too many people retrofitting $500 miniMacs ...

Phil Wood
2005-01-13, 13:08
On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:04:38 -0500, ron thigpen <ron (AT) fuzzsonic (DOT) com> wrote:

> which begs the question: does this thing have a GigE capable NIC in it?

No, according to http://www.apple.com/macmini/specs.html

dean
2005-01-13, 21:59
I just put a 100G 2.5" drive in my Powerbook for less that $200US.
Nearly halved the full backup time and the machine is quieter and (they
say) has less current draw. Still, it's a lot to spend to add 60G,
when you can get a 200G external drive for the same price, or
thereabouts.

-dean

On Jan 13, 2005, at 11:57 AM, Phil Wood wrote:

> I misspoke. It's not a CARDbus drive, but a 2.5" notebook drive ...
>
> ... and I see that there is now a 100G drive on the market, but at
> $400 I can't see too many people retrofitting $500 miniMacs ...
>
>
> On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 08:41:43 -0800, Phil Wood <woodp (AT) woodp (DOT) com> wrote:
>> discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
>> [mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hickey
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm sure you could put a bigger HD in it...
>>
>> I don't think so ... at least not today. miniMac uses a Cardbus drive
>> and I
>> think 80G is the largest available ...
>

Maik Musall
2005-01-14, 01:25
In my opinion, the miniMac is somewhat flawed. Using SODIMM and 2.5"
drive, it has all the disadvantages of a notebook regarding
expandability: slower and more expensive, no internal slots for other
hardware. You will end up attaching disks, USB hubs, and all that stuff
externally and have the small box surrounded by a bunch of cables and
boxes that are not as nice-looking, and all the effect is gone.

Besides, if you want to add any Apple display to the miniMac, you have
to invest at least $900 alone for that. It's much cheaper to directly
buy even a PowerBook.

Maik

On Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 08:59:14PM -0800, dean blackketter wrote:
> I just put a 100G 2.5" drive in my Powerbook for less that $200US.
> Nearly halved the full backup time and the machine is quieter and (they
> say) has less current draw. Still, it's a lot to spend to add 60G,
> when you can get a 200G external drive for the same price, or
> thereabouts.
>
> -dean
>
> On Jan 13, 2005, at 11:57 AM, Phil Wood wrote:
>
> >I misspoke. It's not a CARDbus drive, but a 2.5" notebook drive ...
> >
> >... and I see that there is now a 100G drive on the market, but at
> >$400 I can't see too many people retrofitting $500 miniMacs ...
> >
> >
> >On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 08:41:43 -0800, Phil Wood <woodp (AT) woodp (DOT) com> wrote:
> >>discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
> >>[mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hickey
> >>wrote:
> >>
> >>>I'm sure you could put a bigger HD in it...
> >>
> >>I don't think so ... at least not today. miniMac uses a Cardbus drive
> >>and I
> >>think 80G is the largest available ...
> >

Ben Coombs
2005-01-14, 08:20
I've ordered one, it's going to replace my squeeze box in the living
room, which's going to move into the bedroom.

It's going to be hooked up to my projector, blue tooth keyboard +
mouse and speaker system. I've also ordered the M-Audio Transit, this
will provide the surround sound for dvds.

I don't see a need to expand it, because it will do what i want it to do:
1) watch DVDs.
2) play softsqueeze.
3) manage my ipod via iTunes.
4) browse the web.

I plan to hook it up to the Linux box via nfs, offering over half a
terabyte of disk space via 802.11g, which is fast enough to watch
DVDs. I've set up a separate 802.11b network for slimserver. It will
look elegant and with the minimum of cables. Picking this set up meant
that i could choose the cheaper of the two boxes, the 40gb one, and
added wireless and 512 memory.


On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:25:25 +0100, Maik Musall <lists (AT) musall (DOT) de> wrote:
> In my opinion, the miniMac is somewhat flawed. Using SODIMM and 2.5"
> drive, it has all the disadvantages of a notebook regarding
> expandability: slower and more expensive, no internal slots for other
> hardware. You will end up attaching disks, USB hubs, and all that stuff
> externally and have the small box surrounded by a bunch of cables and
> boxes that are not as nice-looking, and all the effect is gone.
>
> Besides, if you want to add any Apple display to the miniMac, you have
> to invest at least $900 alone for that. It's much cheaper to directly
> buy even a PowerBook.
>
> Maik
>
> On Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 08:59:14PM -0800, dean blackketter wrote:
> > I just put a 100G 2.5" drive in my Powerbook for less that $200US.
> > Nearly halved the full backup time and the machine is quieter and (they
> > say) has less current draw. Still, it's a lot to spend to add 60G,
> > when you can get a 200G external drive for the same price, or
> > thereabouts.
> >
> > -dean
> >
> > On Jan 13, 2005, at 11:57 AM, Phil Wood wrote:
> >
> > >I misspoke. It's not a CARDbus drive, but a 2.5" notebook drive ...
> > >
> > >... and I see that there is now a 100G drive on the market, but at
> > >$400 I can't see too many people retrofitting $500 miniMacs ...
> > >
> > >
> > >On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 08:41:43 -0800, Phil Wood <woodp (AT) woodp (DOT) com> wrote:
> > >>discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
> > >>[mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hickey
> > >>wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>I'm sure you could put a bigger HD in it...
> > >>
> > >>I don't think so ... at least not today. miniMac uses a Cardbus drive
> > >>and I
> > >>think 80G is the largest available ...
> > >

Maik Musall
2005-01-14, 09:46
On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 03:20:02PM +0000, Ben Coombs wrote:
> I've ordered one, it's going to replace my squeeze box in the living
> room, which's going to move into the bedroom.

Ok, you're putting it the opposite: not using the minimac as slimserver
but as another squeezebox substitution. Let us know if the audio quality
is acceptable. Won't you miss the small, concise display and the remote?

> It's going to be hooked up to my projector, blue tooth keyboard +
> mouse and speaker system. I've also ordered the M-Audio Transit, this
> will provide the surround sound for dvds.

Well, it's that you seem to already have all those peripherals around.
Of course the costs look different in that case.

Regards
--
Maik Musall <maik (AT) musall (DOT) de>
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jacobdp
2005-01-14, 13:42
On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:25:25 +0100, Maik Musall <lists (AT) musall (DOT) de> wrote:
> In my opinion, the miniMac is somewhat flawed. Using SODIMM and 2.5"
> drive, it has all the disadvantages of a notebook regarding
> expandability: slower and more expensive, no internal slots for other
> hardware. You will end up attaching disks, USB hubs, and all that stuff
> externally and have the small box surrounded by a bunch of cables and
> boxes that are not as nice-looking, and all the effect is gone.

Just a note, it does appear to use regular RAM:
http://images.apple.com/macmini/images/designinsides20050111.jpg

Although I do agree with the drive and expansion issue....

- Jacob