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Craig, James (IT)
2005-01-12, 03:10
Out of interest, how much disk space would be left (after OS,apps etc)
on a OS X 40Gb drive?

James

-----Original Message-----
From: discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
[mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com] On Behalf Of Jack Coates
Sent: 12 January 2005 05:24
To: Slim Devices Discussion
Subject: [slim] Nice box...


> At 05:55 PM 1/11/2005 1/11/2005, Bill Burns wrote:
>>Mark Komarinski wrote:
>>>On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 06:53:20PM -0500, Bill Burns wrote:
>>>
>>>>Jonathan Miller wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I'm fighting the urge to order one, I've got a monitor, mouse and
>>>>>keyboard not doing anything...
>>>>
>>>>>http://www.apple.com/macmini/
>>>>
>>>>Hard drive is too small for any significant amount of music storage
-
>>>> 40GB in the basic unit, 80GB max.
>>>
>>>The Firewire 400 and USB2 ports say you're wrong. ;)
>>>-Mark, surrounded by 200G of firewire/USB drives.'
>>
>>But then it's not $499 any more :-(
>
> I built my Slimserver out of a VIA mini-ITX board with 250GB for that.
It
> runs cooler
> than a G4 and the box is smaller.
>
> But it doesn't run iLife.
>
> Barry
>

A Shuttle SFF would be a better comparison in terms of CPU power. Still
arguably cheaper.
--
Jack At Monkeynoodle.Org: It's A Scientific Venture...
"Believe what you're told; there'd be chaos if everyone thought for
themselves." -- Top Dog hotdog stand, Berkeley, CA

Daniel Cohen
2005-01-12, 03:36
On 12/1/05 at 10:10 am +0000, Craig, James (IT) wrote
>Out of interest, how much disk space would be left (after OS,apps etc)
>on a OS X 40Gb drive?

Plenty. At least 20Gb. Of course, that depend on how many
applications you use! The hard drive on my machine is only 40Gb, and
after partitioning (not necessary, but when I started I wanted a
separate OS 9 partition) my main partition is down to 34Gb. I've
currently got around 10Gb free, but I have recently copied to my hard
disk some reel-to-reel tapes using Audio Hijack, and as I haven't yet
compressed them in any way these amount to around 10Gb.
--
Daniel Cohen

Patrick Dowling
2005-01-12, 07:08
It would fit in less than 10Gb

Here's the space allocation from my mac:

30.6 GB Users
5.0 GB Applications
3.4 GB Library
1.3 GB System
741.8 MB usr
681.4 MB Developer
535.6 MB private
3.7 MB mach_kernel
3.4 MB bin
2.1 MB sbin

A base install would probably look like:

1 MB Users
3.0 GB Applications
3.4 GB Library
1.3 GB System
741.8 MB usr
535.6 MB private
3.7 MB mach_kernel
3.4 MB bin
2.1 MB sbin

Pat



On Jan 12, 2005, at 4:10 AM, Craig, James (IT) wrote:

> Out of interest, how much disk space would be left (after OS,apps etc)
> on a OS X 40Gb drive?
>
> James
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
> [mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com] On Behalf Of Jack Coates
> Sent: 12 January 2005 05:24
> To: Slim Devices Discussion
> Subject: [slim] Nice box...
>
>
>> At 05:55 PM 1/11/2005 1/11/2005, Bill Burns wrote:
>>> Mark Komarinski wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 06:53:20PM -0500, Bill Burns wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Jonathan Miller wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm fighting the urge to order one, I've got a monitor, mouse and
>>>>>> keyboard not doing anything...
>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.apple.com/macmini/
>>>>>
>>>>> Hard drive is too small for any significant amount of music storage
> -
>>>>> 40GB in the basic unit, 80GB max.
>>>>
>>>> The Firewire 400 and USB2 ports say you're wrong. ;)
>>>> -Mark, surrounded by 200G of firewire/USB drives.'
>>>
>>> But then it's not $499 any more :-(
>>
>> I built my Slimserver out of a VIA mini-ITX board with 250GB for that.
> It
>> runs cooler
>> than a G4 and the box is smaller.
>>
>> But it doesn't run iLife.
>>
>> Barry
>>
>
> A Shuttle SFF would be a better comparison in terms of CPU power. Still
> arguably cheaper.
> --
> Jack At Monkeynoodle.Org: It's A Scientific Venture...
> "Believe what you're told; there'd be chaos if everyone thought for
> themselves." -- Top Dog hotdog stand, Berkeley, CA
>

Sean McGrath
2005-01-12, 07:42
You can save a GB or more if you customize install to essential (to you)
printer drivers, fonts, languages.

--
Sean
sean (AT) manybits (DOT) net

On Wed, 12 Jan 2005, Patrick Dowling wrote:

> It would fit in less than 10Gb
>
> Here's the space allocation from my mac:
>
> 30.6 GB Users
> 5.0 GB Applications
> 3.4 GB Library
> 1.3 GB System
> 741.8 MB usr
> 681.4 MB Developer
> 535.6 MB private
> 3.7 MB mach_kernel
> 3.4 MB bin
> 2.1 MB sbin
>
> A base install would probably look like:
>
> 1 MB Users
> 3.0 GB Applications
> 3.4 GB Library
> 1.3 GB System
> 741.8 MB usr
> 535.6 MB private
> 3.7 MB mach_kernel
> 3.4 MB bin
> 2.1 MB sbin
>
> Pat
>
>
>
> On Jan 12, 2005, at 4:10 AM, Craig, James (IT) wrote:
>
> > Out of interest, how much disk space would be left (after OS,apps etc)
> > on a OS X 40Gb drive?
> >
> > James
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
> > [mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com] On Behalf Of Jack Coates
> > Sent: 12 January 2005 05:24
> > To: Slim Devices Discussion
> > Subject: [slim] Nice box...
> >
> >
> >> At 05:55 PM 1/11/2005 1/11/2005, Bill Burns wrote:
> >>> Mark Komarinski wrote:
> >>>> On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 06:53:20PM -0500, Bill Burns wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Jonathan Miller wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I'm fighting the urge to order one, I've got a monitor, mouse and
> >>>>>> keyboard not doing anything...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> http://www.apple.com/macmini/
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hard drive is too small for any significant amount of music storage
> > -
> >>>>> 40GB in the basic unit, 80GB max.
> >>>>
> >>>> The Firewire 400 and USB2 ports say you're wrong. ;)
> >>>> -Mark, surrounded by 200G of firewire/USB drives.'
> >>>
> >>> But then it's not $499 any more :-(
> >>
> >> I built my Slimserver out of a VIA mini-ITX board with 250GB for that.
> > It
> >> runs cooler
> >> than a G4 and the box is smaller.
> >>
> >> But it doesn't run iLife.
> >>
> >> Barry
> >>
> >
> > A Shuttle SFF would be a better comparison in terms of CPU power. Still
> > arguably cheaper.
> > --
> > Jack At Monkeynoodle.Org: It's A Scientific Venture...
> > "Believe what you're told; there'd be chaos if everyone thought for
> > themselves." -- Top Dog hotdog stand, Berkeley, CA
> >

Phil Thien
2005-01-12, 09:10
Do Mac's (and specifically the Mini-Mac) offer anything similar to the
Windoze XP Pro Remote Desktop feature that would be accessible via a Windoze
machine? Any suggestions? This MiniMac may be my first Mac!

Thanks!
Phil Thien (phil (AT) cgallery (DOT) com)
Computer Gallery (http://www.cgallery.com)
414/963-6336
414/963-6338 (Fax)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sean McGrath" <sean (AT) manybits (DOT) net>
To: "Slim Devices Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 8:42 AM
Subject: [slim] Nice box...


> You can save a GB or more if you customize install to essential (to you)
> printer drivers, fonts, languages.
>
> --
> Sean
> sean (AT) manybits (DOT) net
>
> On Wed, 12 Jan 2005, Patrick Dowling wrote:
>
>> It would fit in less than 10Gb
>>
>> Here's the space allocation from my mac:
>>
>> 30.6 GB Users
>> 5.0 GB Applications
>> 3.4 GB Library
>> 1.3 GB System
>> 741.8 MB usr
>> 681.4 MB Developer
>> 535.6 MB private
>> 3.7 MB mach_kernel
>> 3.4 MB bin
>> 2.1 MB sbin
>>
>> A base install would probably look like:
>>
>> 1 MB Users
>> 3.0 GB Applications
>> 3.4 GB Library
>> 1.3 GB System
>> 741.8 MB usr
>> 535.6 MB private
>> 3.7 MB mach_kernel
>> 3.4 MB bin
>> 2.1 MB sbin
>>
>> Pat
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 12, 2005, at 4:10 AM, Craig, James (IT) wrote:
>>
>> > Out of interest, how much disk space would be left (after OS,apps etc)
>> > on a OS X 40Gb drive?
>> >
>> > James
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
>> > [mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com] On Behalf Of Jack Coates
>> > Sent: 12 January 2005 05:24
>> > To: Slim Devices Discussion
>> > Subject: [slim] Nice box...
>> >
>> >
>> >> At 05:55 PM 1/11/2005 1/11/2005, Bill Burns wrote:
>> >>> Mark Komarinski wrote:
>> >>>> On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 06:53:20PM -0500, Bill Burns wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> Jonathan Miller wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> I'm fighting the urge to order one, I've got a monitor, mouse and
>> >>>>>> keyboard not doing anything...
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> http://www.apple.com/macmini/
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Hard drive is too small for any significant amount of music storage
>> > -
>> >>>>> 40GB in the basic unit, 80GB max.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> The Firewire 400 and USB2 ports say you're wrong. ;)
>> >>>> -Mark, surrounded by 200G of firewire/USB drives.'
>> >>>
>> >>> But then it's not $499 any more :-(
>> >>
>> >> I built my Slimserver out of a VIA mini-ITX board with 250GB for that.
>> > It
>> >> runs cooler
>> >> than a G4 and the box is smaller.
>> >>
>> >> But it doesn't run iLife.
>> >>
>> >> Barry
>> >>
>> >
>> > A Shuttle SFF would be a better comparison in terms of CPU power. Still
>> > arguably cheaper.
>> > --
>> > Jack At Monkeynoodle.Org: It's A Scientific Venture...
>> > "Believe what you're told; there'd be chaos if everyone thought for
>> > themselves." -- Top Dog hotdog stand, Berkeley, CA
>> >

mherger
2005-01-12, 09:22
> Do Mac's (and specifically the Mini-Mac) offer anything similar to the
> Windoze XP Pro Remote Desktop feature that would be accessible via a
> Windoze machine? Any suggestions? This MiniMac may be my first Mac!

I don't know whether there's something built in. But there's ssh for the
console. And there's always a VNC. http://www.redstonesoftware.com/vnc.html

--

Michael

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Vince LaMonica
2005-01-12, 09:43
On Wed, 12 Jan 2005, Michael Herger wrote:

} I don't know whether there's something built in. But there's ssh for the
} console. And there's always a VNC.
} http://www.redstonesoftware.com/vnc.html

VNC is my choice too, but if one wants to buy a product, Apple makes
something called Remote Desktop:

http://www.apple.com/remotedesktop/

/vjl/

Jonathan Greene
2005-01-12, 11:39
Apple remote desktop. works great - though I think you need to
initially connect a monitor, then disconnect it in order to leave the
box on in a headless state. I could be wrong here... depending on
where you are configuring, you could use your TV for temporary set-up


On Jan 12, 2005, at 11:10 AM, Phil Thien wrote:

> Do Mac's (and specifically the Mini-Mac) offer anything similar to the
> Windoze XP Pro Remote Desktop feature that would be accessible via a
> Windoze machine? Any suggestions? This MiniMac may be my first Mac!