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mherger
2005-01-11, 13:57
Would look nice as a SlimServer:

http://www.apple.com/macmini/

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Jonathan Greene
2005-01-11, 14:12
among other media serving duties..


On Jan 11, 2005, at 3:57 PM, Michael Herger wrote:

> Would look nice as a SlimServer:
>
> http://www.apple.com/macmini/

Jonathan Miller
2005-01-11, 16:22
I'm fighting the urge to order one, I've got a monitor, mouse and
keyboard not doing anything...


On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:12:19 -0500, Jonathan Greene
<atmasphere (AT) atmasphere (DOT) net> wrote:
> among other media serving duties..
>
>
> On Jan 11, 2005, at 3:57 PM, Michael Herger wrote:
>
> > Would look nice as a SlimServer:
> >
> > http://www.apple.com/macmini/
>
>

Bill Burns
2005-01-11, 16:53
Jonathan Miller wrote:
> I'm fighting the urge to order one, I've got a monitor, mouse and
> keyboard not doing anything...

> http://www.apple.com/macmini/

Hard drive is too small for any significant amount of music storage -
40GB in the basic unit, 80GB max.

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Bill Burns
Long Island NY USA
mailto:billb (AT) ftldesign (DOT) com

Mark Komarinski
2005-01-11, 18:39
On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 06:53:20PM -0500, Bill Burns wrote:
> Jonathan Miller wrote:
> >I'm fighting the urge to order one, I've got a monitor, mouse and
> >keyboard not doing anything...
>
> > http://www.apple.com/macmini/
>
> Hard drive is too small for any significant amount of music storage -
> 40GB in the basic unit, 80GB max.

The Firewire 400 and USB2 ports say you're wrong. ;)

-Mark, surrounded by 200G of firewire/USB drives.

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Bill Burns
2005-01-11, 18:55
Mark Komarinski wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 06:53:20PM -0500, Bill Burns wrote:
>
>>Jonathan Miller wrote:
>>
>>>I'm fighting the urge to order one, I've got a monitor, mouse and
>>>keyboard not doing anything...
>>
>>>http://www.apple.com/macmini/
>>
>>Hard drive is too small for any significant amount of music storage -
>>40GB in the basic unit, 80GB max.
>
>
> The Firewire 400 and USB2 ports say you're wrong. ;)
>
> -Mark, surrounded by 200G of firewire/USB drives.'

But then it's not $499 any more :-(

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Bill Burns
Long Island NY USA
mailto:billb (AT) ftldesign (DOT) com

seanadams
2005-01-11, 21:53
> I'm fighting the urge to order one

Yeah I know how you feel. I fought that urge for at least 100
agonizing microseconds before giving in. :)

Barry Bruins
2005-01-11, 22:16
At 05:55 PM 1/11/2005 1/11/2005, Bill Burns wrote:
>Mark Komarinski wrote:
>>On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 06:53:20PM -0500, Bill Burns wrote:
>>
>>>Jonathan Miller wrote:
>>>
>>>>I'm fighting the urge to order one, I've got a monitor, mouse and
>>>>keyboard not doing anything...
>>>
>>>>http://www.apple.com/macmini/
>>>
>>>Hard drive is too small for any significant amount of music storage - 40GB in the basic unit, 80GB max.
>>
>>The Firewire 400 and USB2 ports say you're wrong. ;)
>>-Mark, surrounded by 200G of firewire/USB drives.'
>
>But then it's not $499 any more :-(

I built my Slimserver out of a VIA mini-ITX board with 250GB for that. It runs cooler
than a G4 and the box is smaller.

But it doesn't run iLife.

Barry


>--
>Bill Burns
>Long Island NY USA
>mailto:billb (AT) ftldesign (DOT) com
>

Jack Coates
2005-01-11, 22:24
> At 05:55 PM 1/11/2005 1/11/2005, Bill Burns wrote:
>>Mark Komarinski wrote:
>>>On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 06:53:20PM -0500, Bill Burns wrote:
>>>
>>>>Jonathan Miller wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I'm fighting the urge to order one, I've got a monitor, mouse and
>>>>>keyboard not doing anything...
>>>>
>>>>>http://www.apple.com/macmini/
>>>>
>>>>Hard drive is too small for any significant amount of music storage -
>>>> 40GB in the basic unit, 80GB max.
>>>
>>>The Firewire 400 and USB2 ports say you're wrong. ;)
>>>-Mark, surrounded by 200G of firewire/USB drives.'
>>
>>But then it's not $499 any more :-(
>
> I built my Slimserver out of a VIA mini-ITX board with 250GB for that. It
> runs cooler
> than a G4 and the box is smaller.
>
> But it doesn't run iLife.
>
> Barry
>

A Shuttle SFF would be a better comparison in terms of CPU power. Still
arguably cheaper.
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Dave Pilgrim
2005-01-12, 01:00
This looks very interesting to me as I have my music on 2 x 250GB
firewire drives and have spares of all the other necessary peripherals.
Can anybody who is familiar with running slimserver on a Mac box say if
the horsepower of this new minimac would be sufficient to run slim
without falling over?

Dave

Vince LaMonica
2005-01-12, 01:07
On Wed, 12 Jan 2005, Dave Pilgrim wrote:

} This looks very interesting to me as I have my music on 2 x 250GB firewire
} drives and have spares of all the other necessary peripherals. Can anybody
} who is familiar with running slimserver on a Mac box say if the horsepower of
} this new minimac would be sufficient to run slim without falling over?

I run slimserver under 10.3.7 on my Cube. It runs as a G4, 450mhz. I
upgraded the video and hard drive, and the 1Ghz CPU upgrade is still
sitting next to it. Ripping music via iTunes does take a while with a
G4/450, but playing via the SLiMP3 and slimserver 5.4 works just fine. I
think the CPU in the Mac mini is overkill for the slimserver [i have many
m4a files that it converts via LAME on the fly just fine with the 450mhz].
However at that pricepoint, it's hard to pass up, isn't it?

Perhaps you can combine a MythTV frontend into the Mac mini. It would then
serve audio and video. MythTV info: http://mythtv.org/ [and yes, right
now the mythtv list is really strong with ideas about how to use the Mac
mini with mythtv].

/vjl/ [who hopes Apple has enough minis for the demand!]

Manu
2005-01-12, 02:01
On 12 Jan 2005, at 09:07, Vince LaMonica wrote:

> Perhaps you can combine a MythTV frontend into the Mac mini. It would
> then
> serve audio and video. MythTV info: http://mythtv.org/ [and yes, right
> now the mythtv list is really strong with ideas about how to use the
> Mac
> mini with mythtv].

Indeed, I've been thinking exactly the same. Although you'd need
external HDs for the needed storage. But that's not the main reason for
my reply...

I was thinking I was the only one running both mythtv and slimserver,
but maybe I'm mistaken. Does anyone know of a mythtv plugin that would
work like the softsqueeze, or tried mythweb to control the slimserver ?
I've been thinking about that for a while, how cool and handy this
would be, but alas, busy times...

--manu.

Daniel Cohen
2005-01-12, 03:04
On 12/1/05 at 4:00 pm +0800, Dave Pilgrim wrote
>This looks very interesting to me as I have my music on 2 x 250GB
>firewire drives and have spares of all the other necessary
>peripherals. Can anybody who is familiar with running slimserver on
>a Mac box say if the horsepower of this new minimac would be
>sufficient to run slim without falling over?

I have no problems on an 800MHz G4, but it does have 768Mb RAM.

--
Daniel Cohen

Patrick Dowling
2005-01-12, 06:44
I've run slim server on my 1Ghz Powerbook (slower than the minimac)
with a 200GB firewire drive holding about 10,000 songs and the slim
server process was barely noticeable except when performing a rescan on
the music library. The one item you would most likely need to do is
bump the memory up to at least to 512Mb.

On Jan 12, 2005, at 2:00 AM, Dave Pilgrim wrote:

> This looks very interesting to me as I have my music on 2 x 250GB
> firewire drives and have spares of all the other necessary
> peripherals. Can anybody who is familiar with running slimserver on a
> Mac box say if the horsepower of this new minimac would be sufficient
> to run slim without falling over?
>
> Dave
>

Steve Burling
2005-01-12, 07:56
--On January 12, 2005 4:00:30 PM +0800 Dave Pilgrim <dpilgrim (AT) exasia (DOT) net>
wrote:

> This looks very interesting to me as I have my music on 2 x 250GB
> firewire drives and have spares of all the other necessary peripherals.
> Can anybody who is familiar with running slimserver on a Mac box say if
> the horsepower of this new minimac would be sufficient to run slim
> without falling over?

To which I reply:

It'll be more than enough -- I run slimserver on an old G4 400MHz with
256MB RAM. The machine also acts as my web server and mailing list server
(both low volume, though). I stream music from it (it's in the basement)
to iTunes at work. The main bottle neck is the slow uplink of ADSL. It's
fine for a stream of music, but if I start screen sharing with Apple Remote
Desktop, I get occasional dropouts.

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Michael Alletto
2005-01-12, 08:54
I was thinking of the whole MythTV combo with the mac mini to get my
much wanted dvd jukebox machine. But the mini only has headphone jack
for sound and I don't want to attach a ton of external hard drives to
the thing. I do not want the mini sitting down by my tv, it would get
really cluttered, really fast.

Another option would be to use the mini combined with the eyehome
device. Then I could attach some large hard drives to my linux box
and have the mini see them via samba. Internal IDE harddrives are
cheaper than external firewire or USB2 harddrives. Then put the
eyehome device down where my tv is at to act as the interface between
it all. The only problem with that is functionality of eyehome to
play vob files without a hitch. Folks say it works, but you need to
decode the dvd's first instead of just copying the vob files off the
disc. Also I would be concerned about network speed in the mini
getting to the samba mounts. It would all be 100mb network but thats
slower than a USB2 or firewire solution.

I think the eyehome solution is actually better than trying to get
mythtv working on the mini mainly because of the lack of audio
outputs.

On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 03:07:30 -0500 (EST), Vince LaMonica
<vjl (AT) cullasaja (DOT) com> wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Jan 2005, Dave Pilgrim wrote:
>
> Perhaps you can combine a MythTV frontend into the Mac mini. It would then
> serve audio and video. MythTV info: http://mythtv.org/ [and yes, right
> now the mythtv list is really strong with ideas about how to use the Mac
> mini with mythtv].

Jonathan Greene
2005-01-12, 11:35
It's considerably more powerful than my 3yr old iMac 800Mhz and smaller
which would get it nicely situated in my home theater as well. Just
wish it had digital audio out for other stuff...


On Jan 12, 2005, at 3:00 AM, Dave Pilgrim wrote:

> This looks very interesting to me as I have my music on 2 x 250GB
> firewire drives and have spares of all the other necessary
> peripherals. Can anybody who is familiar with running slimserver on a
> Mac box say if the horsepower of this new minimac would be sufficient
> to run slim without falling over?

Jonathan Greene
2005-01-12, 11:38
I use Mactheripper... it's free and can pull either the full disc (less
than 30 min) or the feature or a single vob. I recommend concatanating
the files to avoid a visual announcement between tracks on the eyehome.
For now there is no way to disable that, but the eyehome can easily
play .vobs across my network now - running on either ethernet or
airport extreme.


On Jan 12, 2005, at 10:54 AM, Michael Alletto wrote:

> Then put the
> eyehome device down where my tv is at to act as the interface between
> it all. The only problem with that is functionality of eyehome to
> play vob files without a hitch. Folks say it works, but you need to
> decode the dvd's first instead of just copying the vob files off the
> disc.