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Adam J Purcell
2005-01-11, 05:12
Hi!

I've got a SqueezeBox on order from a UK reseller (unfortunately
awaiting a restock). In anticipation of this I'd like to ask a question
about segmenting my audio collection, if I may.

As a bit of background I've currently got a headless Linux box in my
living room which I use as a Jukebox. On it I've got all my music discs
ripped as Ogg Vorbis tracks. I basically have it randomly shuffle the
entire track collection. That all sounds okay and easily achievable
with SlimServer (which will run on a new server in my computer room) and
SqueezeBox.

In addition to this music I also have quite a few Audio Plays on CD I'd
like to rip and play through the SqueezeBox too. Not surprisingly I
don't want tracks from these to play in the normal music shuffle - just
play in sequence when I choose the 'album' manually.

I believe I could create a Play List of all my music, excluding the
plays, and have SlimServer load and shuffle that. My only concern is
maintaining such a Play List. Is there anyway to mark the Audio Plays
as 'don't shuffle play' in the Master Play List? Better still, exclude
their entire subdirectory from the Master Play List but let each disc
still be browsable for manual playing?

From going through past message I suspect I may be out of luck but
things may have changed since then or one of you may have a cunning new
workaround. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks,
Adam

kdf
2005-01-11, 10:47
Quoting Adam J Purcell <adampurcell (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>:

> Is there anyway to mark the Audio Plays
> as 'don't shuffle play' in the Master Play List? Better still, exclude
> their entire subdirectory from the Master Play List but let each disc
> still be browsable for manual playing?
>
> From going through past message I suspect I may be out of luck but
> things may have changed since then or one of you may have a cunning new
> workaround. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
>

Adam,

There is a lot of work going on to rework the way data is handled on the server.
The new database should allow much better control over playlists than exists
now, tho it is still a bit of time away before higher level markings like that
will be in place.

However, there is an option you can explore with the current release. In the
fishbone skin, there is an icon in the brose lists that looks like this: [-].
If you place all your audio plays in a directory on their own, or use your
favourite tagger to mark them with the same genre, you can use the links to
"all subfolders" from Browse Music Folder or "all artists", then use the [-] to
remove the audio plays folder, or the audioi plays genre from the playlist. Its
not the fastest method in the world to add everything only to take a away a
fair portion, but it can work.

-kdf

Adam J Purcell
2005-01-12, 03:10
kdf wrote:
> Adam,
>
> There is a lot of work going on to rework the way data is handled on the server.
> The new database should allow much better control over playlists than exists
> now, tho it is still a bit of time away before higher level markings like that
> will be in place.
>
> However, there is an option you can explore with the current release. In the
> fishbone skin, there is an icon in the brose lists that looks like this: [-].
> If you place all your audio plays in a directory on their own, or use your
> favourite tagger to mark them with the same genre, you can use the links to
> "all subfolders" from Browse Music Folder or "all artists", then use the [-] to
> remove the audio plays folder, or the audioi plays genre from the playlist. Its
> not the fastest method in the world to add everything only to take a away a
> fair portion, but it can work.
>
> -kdf

Thanks for that. Yep, that sounds much easier than I feared - add all
and then exclude one subdirectory and save. Much, much better than
taking out individual tracks!

I look forward to seeing where SlimServer is going. It's certainly
sounding exciting and it's already a massive improvement over my old
system of telling ogg123 to shuffle a file list... Now just waiting
with baited breath for my SqueezeBox to turn up!


Thanks for your help,
Adam

Stephen Evans
2005-01-12, 06:11
Adam J Purcell wrote:

> Hi!
>
> I've got a SqueezeBox on order from a UK reseller (unfortunately
> awaiting a restock). In anticipation of this I'd like to ask a question
> about segmenting my audio collection, if I may.
>
> As a bit of background I've currently got a headless Linux box in my
> living room which I use as a Jukebox. On it I've got all my music discs
> ripped as Ogg Vorbis tracks. I basically have it randomly shuffle the
> entire track collection. That all sounds okay and easily achievable
> with SlimServer (which will run on a new server in my computer room) and
> SqueezeBox.
>
> In addition to this music I also have quite a few Audio Plays on CD I'd
> like to rip and play through the SqueezeBox too. Not surprisingly I
> don't want tracks from these to play in the normal music shuffle - just
> play in sequence when I choose the 'album' manually.
>
> I believe I could create a Play List of all my music, excluding the
> plays, and have SlimServer load and shuffle that. My only concern is
> maintaining such a Play List. Is there anyway to mark the Audio Plays
> as 'don't shuffle play' in the Master Play List? Better still, exclude
> their entire subdirectory from the Master Play List but let each disc
> still be browsable for manual playing?
>
> From going through past message I suspect I may be out of luck but
> things may have changed since then or one of you may have a cunning new
> workaround. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
>
> Thanks,
> Adam


You could try putting all 'shuffle-friendly' music in one file directory
and all 'please-don't-shuffle-music' in another.

Then using the browse music folder option you could select the directory
with the 'shuffle-friendly' music in and press play on the remote, that
should automatically create a playlist of all the music in that
directory and play it randomly (if you have that option ticked). That
way there is no 'playlist' to maintain.

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong as I haven't tested it at all!

Hope this helps,
Stephen.