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PAUL WILLIAMSON
2005-01-10, 17:12
>>> onymous (AT) comcast (DOT) net 1/10/2005 5:28:54 PM >>>
"PAUL WILLIAMSON"
<pwilliamson-C5rS9g/L3wJiLUuM0BA3LQ (AT) public (DOT) gmane.org> wrote
> > Slim would have an appliance on their hands if they
> > crippled the squeezebox or decided to sell a little shuttle
> > machine with a pre-installed slimserver. Until I see slim
> > selling one of these two items, I'd consider them a really
> > great open source company that just happens to sell a great
> > audio product for geeky audio tinkerers like most of the
> > folks on this list (or forum, depending on your interface
> > preference).

> I think a "SlimShuttle" would just be more of a headache. Why
> get into selling PC hardware, when their server already runs
> on just about anything the customer might have?
>

I'm not saying it's a good idea...just an idea. I deal with more
than a few clients that I could sell a $5k "appliance" with 1TB of
disk space, remote support and a single squeezebox a whole lot
easier than an old Mac and a squeezebox. It's all about
perceived value. Just like ReQuest. There's a yearly homeshow
here in Buffalo, and you would not believe the number of
these show houses that use really cheap cat5 (not even 6)
faceplates. Most really nice houses have just about the
crappiest networking I've seen, except where the audio
distribution is concerned...

> Now, I COULD see the usefulness in a very small, dedicated
> server that has the RAM, the CPU, and the server software,
> with a gigabit ethernet link to the router and network shares.

That's what I'm saying. Sort of like a really efficient system
with no realy storage. It would be cool to see a single
purpose machine that is completely preconfigured
with a web interface to set up additional drives and maybe
even nfs shares. Then again, someone that has the skill
to mount remote nfs shares probably has the skill to
install slimserver. On a related note, how many windows
users get burned by the whole "slimserver user does
not have access to network shares" problem?

Paul

Arnon Meshoulam
2005-01-11, 01:27
PAUL WILLIAMSON wrote:
>>>>onymous (AT) comcast (DOT) net 1/10/2005 5:28:54 PM >>>
>
> "PAUL WILLIAMSON"
> <pwilliamson-C5rS9g/L3wJiLUuM0BA3LQ (AT) public (DOT) gmane.org> wrote
>
>>>Slim would have an appliance on their hands if they
>>>crippled the squeezebox or decided to sell a little shuttle
>>>machine with a pre-installed slimserver. Until I see slim
>>>selling one of these two items, I'd consider them a really
>>>great open source company that just happens to sell a great
>>>audio product for geeky audio tinkerers like most of the
>>>folks on this list (or forum, depending on your interface
>>>preference).
>
>
>>I think a "SlimShuttle" would just be more of a headache. Why
>>get into selling PC hardware, when their server already runs
>>on just about anything the customer might have?
>>
>
>
> I'm not saying it's a good idea...just an idea. I deal with more
> than a few clients that I could sell a $5k "appliance" with 1TB of
> disk space, remote support and a single squeezebox a whole lot
> easier than an old Mac and a squeezebox. It's all about
> perceived value. Just like ReQuest. There's a yearly homeshow
> here in Buffalo, and you would not believe the number of
> these show houses that use really cheap cat5 (not even 6)
> faceplates. Most really nice houses have just about the
> crappiest networking I've seen, except where the audio
> distribution is concerned...
>
>
>>Now, I COULD see the usefulness in a very small, dedicated
>>server that has the RAM, the CPU, and the server software,
>>with a gigabit ethernet link to the router and network shares.
>
>
> That's what I'm saying. Sort of like a really efficient system
> with no realy storage. It would be cool to see a single
> purpose machine that is completely preconfigured
> with a web interface to set up additional drives and maybe
> even nfs shares. Then again, someone that has the skill
> to mount remote nfs shares probably has the skill to
> install slimserver. On a related note, how many windows
> users get burned by the whole "slimserver user does
> not have access to network shares" problem?
>
> Paul
To add my 2c to the discussion, where does the line stop on this
multi-purpose machine? Does it supply streaming video, PCTV, PVR as
well? While solutions exist to provide these aspects, both open-source,
software and OOB (Out of the Box - ie retail), the market is still
diverse to provide a single solution.

Arnon