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JoeMuc2009
2018-11-19, 07:33
Hi there,

I've created another blog entry on Squeezebox Classic (SB3) typical issues and how to resolve them.
It can be found here:

https://joes-tech-blog.blogspot.com/2018/11/logitech-slimdevices-squeezebox-classic.html

Let me know if you find anything wrong or missing. It's a work in progress.

Cheers,
Joe

bpa
2018-11-19, 11:47
Hi there,

I've created another blog entry on Squeezebox Classic (SB3) typical issues and how to resolve them.
It can be found here:

https://joes-tech-blog.blogspot.com/2018/11/logitech-slimdevices-squeezebox-classic.html

Let me know if you find anything wrong or missing. It's a work in progress.

Cheers,
Joe

Here is a little more guidelines on replacement WLAN card. I think compatible chipsets included AR2413 to AR5212. The retail match was TP-Link TL-WN560G but not a WN360G. Also looking for physically similar cards (i.e same layout,shield, antenna locations) on pchub (http://www.pchub.com/uph/category/279-0-0-1-0/Wireless-LAN-Card.html?ps=100&type=0 ) - there are planty of old laptop WLAN card that look physically similar only costs maybe about €5/$5 such as
Packard Bell 17-000660
Toshiba 17-000660
ACER AR5BMB5
Sparklan WMIA-165G
Sony Vaio VGN-FS515H Internal WLAN WIFI Wireless Card Board 178901432 AR5BMB5
Compex WLM54G 6AA1300 (although this has higher power output which might be a problem for player power supply)

I replaced a faulty WLAN card by a Packard Bell 17-000660 (google "wireless 17-000660" images)

lvicini
2019-01-02, 03:42
Hello,
I am wondering where can you find the Noritake MN32032A (the display for the Squeezebox classic) in Europe.
Cheers
Luca

JoeMuc2009
2019-01-02, 04:43
Hello,
I am wondering where can you find the Noritake MN32032A (the display for the Squeezebox classic) in Europe.
Cheers
Luca

I have made very good experience with the German sales office which is one of the few in Europe at all. You can e-mail them at munich@noritake.de.

Regards,
Joe

lvicini
2019-01-04, 02:19
Hi Joe,

thanks for the tip. I will contact them.
By the way, your blog is absolutely amazing.

Thank you so much
Luca

madpad
2019-01-04, 06:44
Hey Joe

Great post and even better Blog, with such detailed repair instructions.

I also own several Squeezbox 3 (Classic) devices. I now have a problem with one of them. After a few hours of just being on standby the display turns off, and it won't react on any command until I unplug the power and plug it in again. After that, it runs for antoher few hours (sometimes even 24 hours..) but not much longer. I already replaced the power supply but it did not help, stil the same. I even reset the whole Slim, and today I tried now the Xilinx reset and hope this helps, but if not, any other ideas what it could be, that it just goes dark after some hours?

Best regards.
Patrick


Hi there,

I've created another blog entry on Squeezebox Classic (SB3) typical issues and how to resolve them.
It can be found here:


Let me know if you find anything wrong or missing. It's a work in progress.

Cheers,
Joe

JoeMuc2009
2019-01-04, 10:11
Hey Joe

Great post and even better Blog, with such detailed repair instructions.

I also own several Squeezbox 3 (Classic) devices. I now have a problem with one of them. After a few hours of just being on standby the display turns off, and it won't react on any command until I unplug the power and plug it in again. After that, it runs for antoher few hours (sometimes even 24 hours..) but not much longer. I already replaced the power supply but it did not help, stil the same. I even reset the whole Slim, and today I tried now the Xilinx reset and hope this helps, but if not, any other ideas what it could be, that it just goes dark after some hours?

Best regards.
Patrick

Hi Patrick,

okay, and you are sure that it no longer reacts? It's not just the display that goes dark? Does playback cut off in the middle of playing?
Because it's a huge difference between a SB that crashes and one that fails to power its display whereas anything else is fine.
The display power circuitry might have issues similar to the Boom. However, the fix that I have found for the Boom circuitry does not work properly in the Classic. I never had any Classic with this sort of failure though, so there are no advice yet.

Best regards,
Joe

madpad
2019-01-04, 16:44
Hi Patrick,

okay, and you are sure that it no longer reacts? It's not just the display that goes dark? Does playback cut off in the middle of playing?
Because it's a huge difference between a SB that crashes and one that fails to power its display whereas anything else is fine.
The display power circuitry might have issues similar to the Boom. However, the fix that I have found for the Boom circuitry does not work properly in the Classic. I never had any Classic with this sort of failure though, so there are no advice yet.

Best regards,
Joe

Hey Joe

I did some more testing, and yes the device is completly offline and does not react to anything. I can't ping it nor will it react to any remote control actions.
Until now I never catched it when it was playing, as when I get home, it's offline. I disconnect power and connect it again. Listen to music. I go to bed, and in the morning it is gone again... But I could let it play over night, and check if it's offline in the morning or not. But perhaps it will go dark anyhow.

Thanks and best regards.
Patrick

madpad
2019-01-04, 16:49
Hi Patrick,

okay, and you are sure that it no longer reacts? It's not just the display that goes dark? Does playback cut off in the middle of playing?
Because it's a huge difference between a SB that crashes and one that fails to power its display whereas anything else is fine.
The display power circuitry might have issues similar to the Boom. However, the fix that I have found for the Boom circuitry does not work properly in the Classic. I never had any Classic with this sort of failure though, so there are no advice yet.

Best regards,
Joe

Hey Joe

So I thought let's add 500 songs to play during the night, so I'm sure it would be playing in the morning. After I hit play, it started playing for about 15 seconds, and it got dark (offline) again. I could not ping the IP anymore. But now something new happend, it just rebooted, and came up with the first song of my 500 songs again. But it did not start playing. I just left it like that, and after a minute, it rebooted again, without me doing anything. So at the moment, it reboots constantly always after about 1 minute. That was never the case before, when I did not play anything.

Thanks for your guess.

Best regards.
Patrick

philippe_44
2019-01-05, 04:21
Hey Joe

So I thought let's add 500 songs to play during the night, so I'm sure it would be playing in the morning. After I hit play, it started playing for about 15 seconds, and it got dark (offline) again. I could not ping the IP anymore. But now something new happend, it just rebooted, and came up with the first song of my 500 songs again. But it did not start playing. I just left it like that, and after a minute, it rebooted again, without me doing anything. So at the moment, it reboots constantly always after about 1 minute. That was never the case before, when I did not play anything.

Thanks for your guess.

Best regards.
Patrick

Sounds like the usual internal capacitor issue ...

madpad
2019-01-05, 05:46
Sounds like the usual internal capacitor issue ...

Thanks Philippe. What do I need to do? Which capacitor needs replacing?

bpa
2019-01-05, 08:04
Thanks Philippe. What do I need to do? Which capacitor needs replacing?

Most of the detail is in Joe's blog - link in the first post of the thread.

philippe_44
2019-01-05, 08:34
Thanks Philippe. What do I need to do? Which capacitor needs replacing?

As @bpa says, you’ll find lots of information on Joe’s blog. I personally always replace all of them.

madpad
2019-01-05, 08:45
As @bpa says, you’ll find lots of information on Joe’s blog. I personally always replace all of them.

Hey Philippe

So we are talking about all of them, listed under "Issue 4: Crashing Instead Of Playback Starting" right? I think I will open the SLIM now and check if I see something on the board, if not I will just replace all of them.

Thanks.

madpad
2019-01-05, 08:57
Hey Philippe

So we are talking about all of them, listed under "Issue 4: Crashing Instead Of Playback Starting" right? I think I will open the SLIM now and check if I see something on the board, if not I will just replace all of them.

Thanks.

Just opened the classic, are these capacitors ironed in or in a socket? Can I just pull to remove them?

bpa
2019-01-05, 09:18
Just opened the classic, are these capacitors ironed in or in a socket? Can I just pull to remove them?

They are soldered in but there are suggestion how to remove them without desoldering

see https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?103213-Squeezebox-3-common-faults-over-time&p=909011&viewfull=1#post909011

I would advise to read the whole thread and look at the pictures posted. They may not be the same capacitors you are replacing but they show techniques (e.g. https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?103213-Squeezebox-3-common-faults-over-time&p=851581&viewfull=1#post851581 )

philippe_44
2019-01-05, 11:06
Just opened the classic, are these capacitors ironed in or in a socket? Can I just pull to remove them?To add to what @bpa said, these are smd capacitor that can be removed using twist/turn technique but do not pull!. I personally replace them all with smds but this might be more difficult, I don't know how much you are comfortable with soldering (use solder paste if you go this route). If you are not used to that, I really recommend you have somebody else do the job for you, unless you just have to replace a couple of capacitor that obviously leaked. As I said in another post, this is an hour job with experience but can super frustrating otherwise

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schoeppi
2019-01-05, 12:22
Just want to mension that I have two SB Classics that I could sell. I am not sure if I still have the original boxes, manuals and so on, but the Classics and power supplys are there and still working fine AFAIK (will test this before) :-).

Shipping in Germany is no problem, shipping to other countries might be to expensive regarding the insurance for the package.

Let me know if you are interested, just drop me a message to chris (at) schoeppi.net

Ciao,

Schoepp

philippe_44
2019-01-05, 16:52
Just want to mension that I have two SB Classics that I could sell. I am not sure if I still have the original boxes, manuals and so on, but the Classics and power supplys are there and still working fine AFAIK (will test this before) :-).

Shipping in Germany is no problem, shipping to other countries might be to expensive regarding the insurance for the package.

Let me know if you are interested, just drop me a message to chris (at) schoeppi.net

Ciao,

Schoepp

And I’ll buy the non-working one at a reasonable price to fix it unless Joe wants it too, in which case he has precedence.

madpad
2019-01-05, 17:57
And I’ll buy the non-working one at a reasonable price to fix it unless Joe wants it too, in which case he has precedence.

Thanks Chris, I wrote you an email.

philippe_44
2019-01-05, 22:42
Thanks Chris, I wrote you an email.

Chris?

madpad
2019-01-06, 00:34
Chris?

Yes to: chris (at) schoeppi.net so his name is Chris as it seems. ;-)

philippe_44
2019-01-06, 01:13
Yes to: chris (at) schoeppi.net so his name is Chris as it seems. ;-)

Oh sorry, as this response was to my post I missed that

schoeppi
2019-01-06, 06:44
On Sun, 6 Jan 2019 07:34:13 +0000, madpad wrote:
>
> philippe_44 wrote:
>> Chris?
>
> Yes to: chris (at) schoeppi.net so his name is Chris as it seems. ;-)

Yes, it is :-). Got your mail, will answer soon....

Ciao,

Schoepp

madpad
2019-01-06, 08:01
Oh sorry, as this response was to my post I missed that

Sorry about that! Btw. I just found two original Squeezbox (v1) in my storage, is anyone interested in buying one of them? A collector maybe, as this is history.. it first came without casing :-) was an upgrade afterwards which I did. They still work like a charm.

gorman
2019-01-12, 10:46
What an incredible resource that blog is. Wow!

I've bookmarked it and I hope you'll offer repair services for a long time to come.