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Redrum
2018-07-17, 06:37
Forgive me if the answer to this is right in front of my face or ridiculously obvious and simple.

Many of the internet stations I listen to are not through a service UI, I add the url into favorites, and apparently the url directed many of them through tune in. Like this one:

http://opml.radiotime.com/Tune.ashx?id=s29127&formats=aac,ogg,mp3,wmpro,wma,wmvoice&partnerId=16&serial=b0d075a8c4f17a16f486e1343b3eedf5


One of my local stations went dead, and I found out that they changed their service to radio.com:

https://www.radio.com/

I looked at the mysqueezebox apps, ickstream services, plugins in on the settings page for LMS, and did a "radio.com" search in this forum. I cannot find any (apparent) way to listen to this service or extract the url to listen to the stations.

Anyone know of a plugin, etc I can use to strean radio.com?

Jim

Paul Webster
2018-07-17, 07:37
They block access from outside USA ... so, ideally, a USA-based techie needs to chime in (I know ... could proxy from elsewhere).

d6jg
2018-07-17, 08:14
what is the station you are after ?

Redrum
2018-07-17, 09:10
what is the station you are after ?

wgr550 am sports radio station, buffalo, new york, usa.....:

https://wgr550.radio.com/

Jim

d6jg
2018-07-17, 09:45
Individual games seem to be available in UK via TuneIn. Is that what you are after?
Activate the TuneIn App at MySqueezebox.com

Paul Webster
2018-07-17, 09:50
Given that all CBS and Entercom stations will be removed from TuneIn and only officially be available via radio.com (owned by CBS/Entercom) then this is a more generic issue.

Redrum
2018-07-17, 10:04
Individual games seem to be available in UK via TuneIn. Is that what you are after?
Activate the TuneIn App at MySqueezebox.com

not really. I spend spring through fall out of the area, so I don't have access to the AM "over the air". This is the "sports talk" station, as well as the broadcast station for the Bills (football) and Sabres (hockey). Between listening to my hometown local radio statiosn, and streaming my tv stations news via roku, it's my way of keeping in touch.

So, it seems like radio.com is not available similar to tune in?

Jim

Redrum
2018-07-17, 10:52
When I mentioned tv broadcasts over roku, I took a look at the roku channel store, no radio.com...:(

Redrum
2018-07-18, 17:14
Any other ideas on streaming radio.com stations?

mattb4310
2018-07-18, 21:48
Any other ideas on streaming radio.com stations?

If you have the ShairTunes2 plugin enabled in LMS, you can AirPlay from the radio.com app on an iDevice to an LMS player.

Redrum
2018-07-19, 03:16
If you have the ShairTunes2 plugin enabled in LMS, you can AirPlay from the radio.com app on an iDevice to an LMS player.

Thank you, Although I do have an ipad, I am more of an android guy, and I really don't know anything about airplay other than it can be used between devices and apple TV...That's the extend of it.

But, you got me thinking. I run LMS on a PC, and I would be ok running radio.com in a browser on the PC, I just want to listen to it via the various squeeze devices I have. Is there any way, plugin, etc that would allow the stream from a browser be directed to LMS that is running on the same PC? This would be a fine solution.

Jim

castalla
2018-07-19, 03:25
Thank you, Although I do have an ipad, I am more of an android guy, and I really don't know anything about airplay other than it can be used between devices and apple TV...That's the extend of it.

But, you got me thinking. I run LMS on a PC, and I would be ok running radio.com in a browser on the PC, I just want to listen to it via the various squeeze devices I have. Is there any way, plugin, etc that would allow the stream from a browser be directed to LMS that is running on the same PC? This would be a fine solution.

Jim

Not a plugin, but another program you can use to capture the PC sound and stream to LMS:

Stream What You Hear ... http://www.streamwhatyouhear.com

May work for you ...

Redrum
2018-07-19, 03:54
looks perfect! I'll give it a try and post back...Thank you. Jim

d6jg
2018-07-19, 11:14
Not a plugin, but another program you can use to capture the PC sound and stream to LMS:

Stream What You Hear ... http://www.streamwhatyouhear.com

May work for you ...

I was going to suggest SWYH earlier but you beat me to it. It’s a nice simple piece of software and if you run LMS on Windows should work a treat

castalla
2018-07-19, 12:12
I was going to suggest SWYH earlier but you beat me to it. It’s a nice simple piece of software and if you run LMS on Windows should work a treat

Looking forward to feedback.

Redrum
2018-07-20, 03:49
ok, so far so good. I installed the windows app, and it sees the LMS/players:

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but, that's where I am stuck. How to choose SWH on the player itself. I go to the player, select "now playing" and it shows the last thing I listened to (in this case an internet radio station). I went to my music-> remote music libraries and nothing:

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I am not an IT guy, but maybe I need to install or enable one of the upnp plugins? on the plugin tab there is one from Andy and one from Philippe, and perhaps others in "additional repositories"?

I could hack and slash around a bit and end up with a solution, but it might not be the best or most current, so perhaps one of you could point me in a good direction?

Thanks so far, very promising

Jim

d6jg
2018-07-20, 03:59
Don't attempt to stream direct to an SB player.

Look for Tools -> HTTP Live Streaming, make a note of URL then on LMS go to Radio and Tune In URL - enter said URL

"If the device doesn’t support the DLNA"
https://www.streamwhatyouhear.com/getting-started/

kidstypike
2018-07-20, 04:29
Same as d6jg with pictures . . .

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d6jg
2018-07-20, 04:46
Same as d6jg with pictures . . .

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Excellent

Once you get it working there are 2 further options to consider.
Somewhere in the Settings you can set it to stream as PCM rather than MP3 and when its all working as you want just add the playing "station" to Favourites.

Redrum
2018-07-20, 04:50
Thank you, I'm up and running, but this is going to be a bit clunky. I originally pasted the url into a favorite:
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Then quickly realized and confirmed that the url would change each time HTTP live streaming would be intitiated.

The result its it works, but the volume is quite low in comparison to other sources. Perhaps a gain issue in the computer audio playback/swh encoding. I suppose I could try to work through that

Right now I have a solution (thank you), but it involves, launching swh, initiate http stream, copy url, open lms web control, paste url, each time I want to listen.

Forgive my naivety, but is there no way to select the device that swh recornizes, then launch "something" from that device?

Jim

PS - I am grateful that I have something that I can use in a crunch, thank you again.

kidstypike
2018-07-20, 05:02
You can specify the port number . .

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d6jg
2018-07-20, 05:03
Pretty sure that in Settings you can define the port number that it will use and with a static IP it will then always be the same URL.

As regards sound level some fiddling will be required.

EDIT. Exactly as Kidstypike has posted already.

Redrum
2018-07-20, 05:35
Perfect...

Thank you both!

Now it's easy with the static IP and auto launch -> launch swyh, choose the favorite, viola!

Now on to solving the volume issue, changing from swyh at a normal listening level to, say my music library or an internet station, can be, um "suprising"

Jim

d6jg
2018-07-20, 05:37
If this is on the same machine as LMS then you can set it up to have radio.com always start with the PC, always have SWYH running with the same port and just use the Favourite in whatever player you want.

NOTE. You can mute the soundcard on the PC and it wont (shouldn't) affect the stream.


You are going to ask how to start radio.com with the PC aren't you?

1. Create shortcut
2. Copy shortcut to startup folder

Here is a snippet from elsewhere (to save me typing)

Create Shortcuts
After copying a Web page’s URL, you can right-click your desktop, click “New” and then click “Shortcut” to view the Create Shortcut window. There you can paste your URL and give it a descriptive name by typing it into the window’s text box. After you click “Next,” a new shortcut appears on your desktop. You can double-click that shortcut to view it in your browser.

Updating the Startup Folder
The fastest way to find the Startup folder is to right-click your Start button and click “All Programs.” Windows shows you a list of applications and folders. One of these folders is the Startup folder. When you double-click it, the folder does not open. You can open the Startup folder by right-clicking it and selecting “Explore.” Windows Explorer launches and displays the folder’s contents in its window. Put your shortcut into that folder by right-clicking the shortcut, selecting “Copy” and then clicking an empty area in the Startup folder. When you select “Paste,” Windows pastes a copy of the shortcut into the folder.

Considerations
When you shut down Windows and start it again, it automatically runs your shortcut and launches your Web browser, which means you’ll never have to launch your browser manually again. You can simply boot your computer in the morning, walk away and return to a computer that has your browser running and your Web page loaded. If you ever want the Web page to stop loading automatically, return to the Startup menu, right-click the shortcut you added and select “Delete.” Doing this will not delete your desktop shortcut; the one in the Startup folder is only a copy of the desktop shortcut.

Redrum
2018-07-20, 06:09
You are going to ask how to start radio.com with the PC aren't you?



actually, no, I have that under control, but thank you ;)

For my application, I am only looking to stream one radio.com station that is a local station from my home town that is exclusive to radio.com (unfortunately). Fortunately, it is a talk station, so no need to worry about sound quality. I don't plan to look to radio.com for additional stations when they are available so many other places.

(actually, I remember seeing a thread where a user was looking for a way to stream amazon prime, but a plugin couldn't be written because of api availability...this might be a solution for that...)

I think for me, I'll have SWYH run at startup (with LMS), and then just have a shortcut to the station@radio.com link on my desktop, as it autoplays when launched. So my process will be to click the shortcut, select swyh from the favorites on the player.

This way, on boot, I don't have the station autoplay through the speakers.

On to the volume issue...thanks again.

Jim

d6jg
2018-07-20, 07:09
(actually, I remember seeing a thread where a user was looking for a way to stream amazon prime, but a plugin couldn't be written because of api availability...this might be a solution for that...)


Jim

I remember suggesting it in that thread. Control is the issue for Amazon Prime - you'd need the PC to do that - whereas in your scenario if you can solve the volume issue its almost plug and play.

kidstypike
2018-07-20, 07:59
If you right-click the volume control on the task bar and select "open volume mixer", you can control SWYH's output?

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d6jg
2018-07-20, 10:48
@kidstypike

I see you use Pi’s. I have built one of these - https://iotsblog.wordpress.com/2016/02/25/wireless-streaming-vinyl-to-squeezebox/ - which you will immediately realise is even more flexible than SWYH.
I used a Behringer UCA202 into the tape sockets on my amp. It will let me stream anything that’s output to the amp.
I use it to stream vinyl in the main but also CDs, Tuner etc and thinking about adding an Amazon Echo as I have Prime for business reasons.
I use the same Behringer to rip my Vinyl - just plug in to my laptop instead of the Pi

Redrum
2018-07-20, 11:13
If you right-click the volume control on the task bar and select "open volume mixer", you can control SWYH's output?



Hi,

yea, but it seems like it's more than that at play. I have everything at 100% including swyh's slider, and the volume is still very low in relation to the rest of the players sources (internet radio, flac files).

I am suspecting (without any real proof or insight) that is is in the encoding of swyh, or perhaps some windows/soundcard setting/adjustment. I say that because the system sounds (like the "doink" when opening the mixer) come through quite loud, but by comparison to another source? not sure.

I don't really understand the mechanism of swyh, where it gets its data from and what it does to it before it creates the stream.

I had a thought of using two computers on the same network, matching the audio volume, run swyh on one, then play the url on the other, and see if there is a difference. Maybe that idea is flawed, I haven't really thought it through, but with one computer at this location, its moot ;)

I'll spend a little time tonight digging into it.

Thanks for the input.

Jim

d6jg
2018-07-20, 11:28
Is there a separate volume control inside the browser / web player?

kidstypike
2018-07-20, 11:49
I don't actually use SWYH, I (re)-installed it just to hopefully help out :)

ATM I have it streaming from my study pi/hifiberry DAC via the aux in of a half decent BT speaker, it's loud, very loud.

kidstypike
2018-07-20, 11:50
@kidstypike

I see you use Pi’s. I have built one of these - https://iotsblog.wordpress.com/2016/02/25/wireless-streaming-vinyl-to-squeezebox/ - which you will immediately realise is even more flexible than SWYH.
I used a Behringer UCA202 into the tape sockets on my amp. It will let me stream anything that’s output to the amp.
I use it to stream vinyl in the main but also CDs, Tuner etc and thinking about adding an Amazon Echo as I have Prime for business reasons.
I use the same Behringer to rip my Vinyl - just plug in to my laptop instead of the Pi

Thanks, I'll have a read, however my Linux skills are nil :(

Redrum
2018-07-20, 12:38
Is there a separate volume control inside the browser / web player?

this is what I see in the volume mixer:
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I take this to mean that SWYH, and Chrome are turned up to full volume. I have played around with this and turning either down will in turn lower the volume on the SB player after a bit of latency.

To me it seems that the browser has alot of gain in the signal, in that you can crank up the PC speakers as loud as you can tolerate the distortion. but then SWYH converts the stream, then, when received by LMS, then to the player, the gain is considerably lower than other streams the player receives from LMS (library, internet music).

Jim

mattb4310
2018-07-20, 21:54
wgr550 am sports radio station, buffalo, new york, usa.....:

https://wgr550.radio.com/

Jim

After looking at this further, it seems radio.com works similar to iheartradio in how it handles streams. I did the following to get a streaming URL I could play in LMS. (I used Firefox in Windows.)

- Go to radio.com and start playing a station.
- Press Ctrl-A to select all the text.
- With the text selected, right-click and select "View Selection Source".
- Look for a streaming URL in the Selection Source text (see the example below).
- Copy this URL and paste it in the "Tune In URL" box in LMS.

For example, when I did this for WGR, I found this URL in the Selection Source text and could play it in LMS:
http://stream.abacast.net/direct/entercom-wgramaac-64?Source=radiocomWeb&tgt=cbslocalplayer

As with the iheartradio streaming URLs, there's no way of knowing how long it will stay valid, but it's working for now.

Redrum
2018-07-21, 04:44
After looking at this further, it seems radio.com works similar to iheartradio in how it handles streams. I did the following to get a streaming URL I could play in LMS. (I used Firefox in Windows.)

- Go to radio.com and start playing a station.
- Press Ctrl-A to select all the text.
- With the text selected, right-click and select "View Selection Source".
- Look for a streaming URL in the Selection Source text (see the example below).
- Copy this URL and paste it in the "Tune In URL" box in LMS.

For example, when I did this for WGR, I found this URL in the Selection Source text and could play it in LMS:
http://stream.abacast.net/direct/entercom-wgramaac-64?Source=radiocomWeb&tgt=cbslocalplayer

As with the iheartradio streaming URLs, there's no way of knowing how long it will stay valid, but it's working for now.

Your link worked perfectly, thank you. Volume matches other radio stations when played on sb players. It is similar to what I have done in the past with stations, like Pearadio, Jukebox Radio2, etc, where I go to the site, look for a "listen button" and try to extract a URL.

However, I could not find a way to do this on radio.com. Your method obviously worked, but, I could not recreate it. I tried both chrome and IE. When I ctrl-A, then righ click, this is what I get:

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Of interest is the "sorry something went wrong...." message in the "search" selection. Maybe that is why the selection didn't come up? The machine I am running at this location is an old machine, 4MB memory (I think) which is the max on this motherboard, and perhaps I have a memory issue (which often happens when I have a few programs open and about 30 tabs in chrome :) )

I'd be interested in trying to recreate what you did, in case they change the url and I have to go find it again.

I'll also continue to try to find the volume issue with swyh as time permits

Jim

mattb4310
2018-07-21, 07:39
However, I could not find a way to do this on radio.com. Your method obviously worked, but, I could not recreate it. I tried both chrome and IE. When I ctrl-A, then righ click, this is what I get:



The "View Selection Source" right-click menu item might be specific to Firefox. There's probably a way to get the same information in IE and Chrome. I don't know what that is, however.

In Firefox, I found it's also possible to list streaming URLs by playing the station in radio.com, then selecting Web Developer > Network from the Tools menu.

Redrum
2018-07-22, 04:28
The "View Selection Source" right-click menu item might be specific to Firefox. There's probably a way to get the same information in IE and Chrome. I don't know what that is, however.

In Firefox, I found it's also possible to list streaming URLs by playing the station in radio.com, then selecting Web Developer > Network from the Tools menu.

Thanks. I tried a few extension in chrome without much luck, so I downloaded firefox (which I have used on and off over the years), and your technique worked. In the extensive source I tried to imagine looking through it for something that looks for a streaming link. So, I just did a find on "http://" and "stream" and finally both together. But I that another station under radio.com wast not consistent in url naming.

I'm can read source structure, but the last coding I did was "C" without the "++". :rolleyes:Now that I have dated myself.....

But, in the end, I did not start out trying to solve radio.com through SB devices, rather to get reconnected with the station. Thanks to all for helped me with that.

Jim

mattb4310
2018-07-22, 12:20
Good that the original issue has been solved. I wanted to add one more thing that may be useful after the other Entercom stations get migrated to radio.com.

A number of the stations on radio.com use streamtheworld.com for their streaming source. For these stations, the streaming URL from the radio.com source text looks something like this (using KCBS-AM as an example):

https://playerservices.live.streamtheworld.com/api/idsync.js?station=KCBSAM&_=1532143102561

This URL is not itself playable in LMS, but it is easy to change it to one that is. Take the station name (indicated by "station=KCBSAM" in the URL above) and include it in the following URL:

http://playerservices.streamtheworld.com/api/livestream-redirect/KCBSAMAAC.aac

This URL is playable in LMS. Further, some streamtheworld stations (but not all of them) have additional streams in higher/lower audio quality and in different formats. For KCBS-AM, the following URLs are also valid:

http://playerservices.streamtheworld.com/api/livestream-redirect/KCBSAMAACHI.aac (128 kb/s AAC)
http://playerservices.streamtheworld.com/api/livestream-redirect/KCBSAMDIALUPAAC.aac (32 kb/s AAC)
http://playerservices.streamtheworld.com/api/livestream-redirect/KCBSAM.mp3 (64 kb/s MP3)
http://playerservices.streamtheworld.com/api/livestream-redirect/KCBSAMDIALUP.mp3 (32 kb/s MP3)

Redrum
2018-07-25, 06:23
Good that the original issue has been solved. I wanted to add one more thing that may be useful after the other Entercom stations get migrated to radio.com.

A number of the stations on radio.com use streamtheworld.com for their streaming source. For these stations, the streaming URL from the radio.com source text looks something like this (using KCBS-AM as an example):

https://playerservices.live.streamtheworld.com/api/idsync.js?station=KCBSAM&_=1532143102561

This URL is not itself playable in LMS, but it is easy to change it to one that is. Take the station name (indicated by "station=KCBSAM" in the URL above) and include it in the following URL:

http://playerservices.streamtheworld.com/api/livestream-redirect/KCBSAMAAC.aac

This URL is playable in LMS. Further, some streamtheworld stations (but not all of them) have additional streams in higher/lower audio quality and in different formats. For KCBS-AM, the following URLs are also valid:

http://playerservices.streamtheworld.com/api/livestream-redirect/KCBSAMAACHI.aac (128 kb/s AAC)
http://playerservices.streamtheworld.com/api/livestream-redirect/KCBSAMDIALUPAAC.aac (32 kb/s AAC)
http://playerservices.streamtheworld.com/api/livestream-redirect/KCBSAM.mp3 (64 kb/s MP3)
http://playerservices.streamtheworld.com/api/livestream-redirect/KCBSAMDIALUP.mp3 (32 kb/s MP3)

well, the link to station went dead. I tried your technique and was able to get KCBSAM to stream, but could not find the equivalent for WGR AM. can you tell me how you found or developed the links you noted above?

Thanks, Jim

mattb4310
2018-07-25, 09:07
well, the link to station went dead. I tried your technique and was able to get KCBSAM to stream, but could not find the equivalent for WGR AM. can you tell me how you found or developed the links you noted above?

Thanks, Jim

Try this link:

http://playerservices.streamtheworld.com/api/livestream-redirect/WGRAM.mp3

Looks like they're streaming in MP3 rather than AAC.

George_C
2018-07-27, 19:39
Try this link:

http://playerservices.streamtheworld.com/api/livestream-redirect/WGRAM.mp3

Looks like they're streaming in MP3 rather than AAC.

Try this:

https://18063.live.streamtheworld.com/WGRAMAAC.aac

Redrum
2018-07-28, 07:14
Try this:

https://18063.live.streamtheworld.com/WGRAMAAC.aac

George, Mattb, thank you. Mattb's mp3 url worked for a bit, then not. George's acc URL works now, but for how long?

Question - how are you guys finding, decoding source, extracting, etc to find these links? I'd like to be able to do it myself, the old "give a man a fish" thing...:)

Thanks again...

Jim

mattb4310
2018-07-28, 09:22
George, Mattb, thank you. Mattb's mp3 url worked for a bit, then not. George's acc URL works now, but for how long?

Question - how are you guys finding, decoding source, extracting, etc to find these links? I'd like to be able to do it myself, the old "give a man a fish" thing...:)

Thanks again...

Jim

You can use the method described in this thread to get a .pls link for a station:

https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?109266-CBS-Radio-to-be-pulled-from-TuneIn-Any-way-to-uncover-CBS-URLs

The .pls link can be played in LMS. You can get the actual stream URL by opening the .pls link in VLC Media Player and looking at the Location box in the Current Media Information window.

I found the examples of streamtheworld URLs with different streaming formats and quality at the bottom of the page of this blog:

http://www.dudek.org/blog/253

chris49
2018-07-31, 07:20
http://www.radiosure.com is a good source for listen-to urls. VLC media player can be used to check the links by downloading the links (right-click, save as) and right-click the downloaded file in Explorer, "open with" VLC.

I'll know better tomorrow when some of my previous links go dead on TuneIn.

The .pls file for WGR is:

[playlist]
File1=http://18063.live.streamtheworld.com:80/WGRAMAAC_SC
File2=http://18063.live.streamtheworld.com:3690/WGRAMAAC_SC
File3=http://17393.live.streamtheworld.com:80/WGRAMAAC_SC
File4=http://17393.live.streamtheworld.com:3690/WGRAMAAC_SC
File5=http://17433.live.streamtheworld.com:80/WGRAMAAC_SC
File6=http://17433.live.streamtheworld.com:3690/WGRAMAAC_SC
Title1=WGRAMAAC_SC
Title2=WGRAMAAC_SC-Bak
Length1=-1
NumberOfEntries=6
Version=2


For WBEN the .m3u is:

http://54.82.0.113/entercom-wbenammp3-64?session-id=9f74dfdfda920fc2e7bead21e79d99f0
http://54.234.77.191/entercom-wbenammp3-64?session-id=9f74dfdfda920fc2e7bead21e79d99f0
http://54.166.167.192/entercom-wbenammp3-64?session-id=9f74dfdfda920fc2e7bead21e79d99f0
http://54.211.165.49/entercom-wbenammp3-64?session-id=9f74dfdfda920fc2e7bead21e79d99f0



It would be nice if TuneIn.com allowed adding custom URLs to Favorites, but I'll figure out a workaround later.

(I have 2 Squeezeboxes and an Aluratek.)

Paul Webster
2018-08-04, 02:29
Giving the URL to the streamtheworld .pls should work because LMS parses the returned contents.

symphx
2018-08-04, 09:20
Hello, most of my radio stations, ie sports are on radio.com; All of streaming CBS is now RAdio.com. Obviously they are extreme proprietary and have for some reason made it very difficult to get cbs stations. Why they dont want people listening I have no idea. Nonetheless, I know there are web/app developers for logictech squeezebox. Isnt there some developer or administrator that can simply add RADIO.COM to the apps on the squeezeboex?

Sorry for the longwinded question, but its quite annoying to me. Thanks.

Redrum
2018-08-13, 03:35
Try this:

https://18063.live.streamtheworld.com/WGRAMAAC.aac

back in town and I checked this stream url again, and it's still working. Thought I would post in case someone else is running into issues with Radio.com channels

Jim

PS - Thanks again to all.....

espalmer
2018-08-14, 15:35
Howdy,

I have been trying to figure out how to stream WWJ AM 950 out of Detroit Michigan. I am fairly computer literate but am stuck.

I follow the getting the stream info: <script id="streamtheworld" src="//playerservices.live.streamtheworld.com/api/idsync.js?station=WWJAM" type="text/javascript"></script>

but I notice in front of all the stations you posted there is an id number "16693.live.streamtheworld.com/KCBSAMDIALUP.mp3"

Where does this come from? I know I am missing something.....just can not figure out what.

Thanks,
Scott

espalmer
2018-08-14, 15:58
Howdy,

I have been trying to figure out how to stream WWJ AM 950 out of Detroit Michigan. I am fairly computer literate but am stuck.

I follow the getting the stream info: <script id="streamtheworld" src="//playerservices.live.streamtheworld.com/api/idsync.js?station=WWJAM" type="text/javascript"></script>

but I notice in front of all the stations you posted there is an id number "16693.live.streamtheworld.com/KCBSAMDIALUP.mp3"

Where does this come from? I know I am missing something.....just can not figure out what.

Thanks,
Scott

Figured it out, already saved as playlist and Touch and Squeezebox radio streaming just fine......but I agree a plugin for Radio.com would be nice but WAY beyond me.;)

Redrum
2018-08-30, 05:27
I thought I would bump this thread in case someone stmbles onto it in a search.

For WGRAM (buffalo sports talk) the stream that George_C provided worked for quite a while but was dead this morning. I tried the "provisioning" URL from the thread that matt b suggested, and it's up and running again:

http://provisioning.streamtheworld.com/pls/WGRAMAAC.pls

They must be jumbling the streams from time to time to thwart listening on other than the radio.com app? Must be the advertising and marketing $ through the app is more valuable than the companies that pay to advertise over the air. It seems goofy, I would think the idea of a radio station is to promote listening.

Anyhow, I am content with having to find a working stream from time to time, and have radio.com as a backup should they do something as diabolical as changing their streams at game time :mad:

Thanks to all that know allot more about this IT stuff than I do....:D

Jim

Paul Webster
2018-08-30, 06:50
That is why I said "Giving the URL to the streamtheworld .pls should work because LMS parses the returned contents." above.
The contents of the .pls are liable to change - i.e. the stream itself - but the playlist file (.pls) should always be right (as long as they stay with StreamTheWorld as their provider and STW do not change how things work and the underlying stream does not become unplayable on the devices).

Redrum
2018-08-30, 07:49
That is why I said "Giving the URL to the streamtheworld .pls should work because LMS parses the returned contents." above.
The contents of the .pls are liable to change - i.e. the stream itself 0 but the playlist file (.pls) should always be right (as long as they stay with StreamTheWorld as their provider and STW do not change how things work and the underlying stream does not become unplayable on the devices.

Thanks for the repost. Now I understand your previous post better. I didn't realize the significance of a pls vs a static url until your comment and reading back through the thread. I still don't understand the "under the hood" mechanics behind how the pls can be dynamic, but no matter. My strength is electronics, not IT. Sometimes it's best to say "ok, it's working again"

I appreciate you pointing out that the pls route is bound to be more reliable, thanks.

Jim

Paul Webster
2018-08-30, 08:37
Think of the .pls as a web page that contains some links.
The contents of it can be changed by the streaming provider for various reasons (e.g. perhaps one server is heavily loaded so they want to direct the next listener to a different one) - but if you always start from there then you get the up-to-date links that are in it.
LMS (and other players) knows how to parse the returned contents of the .pls - but if you ask the player what it is playing it will usually show you the discovered stream URL that was inside the .pls

Redrum
2018-08-30, 09:15
Think of the .pls as a web page that contains some links.
The contents of it can be changed by the streaming provider for various reasons (e.g. perhaps one server is heavily loaded so they want to direct the next listener to a different one) - but if you always start from there then you get the up-to-date links that are in it.
LMS (and other players) knows how to parse the returned contents of the .pls - but if you ask the player what it is playing it will usually show you the discovered stream URL that was inside the .pls

Perfect. Very clear description. Thanks for taking the time. I learned something today, AND restored a lost station, AND it's bound to be more reliable! ;)

Jim

mherger
2018-09-26, 02:36
I've put something up to mysb.com - check out the app gallery.

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Michael

Redrum
2018-09-26, 03:23
I've put something up to mysb.com - check out the app gallery.

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Michael

Thank you Michael!

It worked perfectly, installation was very clear just by scrolling (installed it via a boom).

Even though the previous (single station vs playlist) solution was still working, I appreciate the effort you put in here (and others will as well). I many explore other stations on Radio.com now that's it an app.

Many thanks again...

Jim

symphx
2018-12-01, 08:48
Hello again. My question is how do I get an internet station. This isnt a city etc. Its just a station on radio.com called cbs sports radio? pppppppplease help. thank u.

mherger
2018-12-01, 09:14
> Hello again. My question is how do I get an internet station. This
> isnt a city etc. Its just a station on radio.com called cbs sports
> radio? pppppppplease help. thank u.

Did you install the radio.com app?

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Michael

symphx
2018-12-01, 09:27
> Hello again. My question is how do I get an internet station. This
> isnt a city etc. Its just a station on radio.com called cbs sports
> radio? pppppppplease help. thank u.

Did you install the radio.com app?

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Michael

Is there an app now??!! This entire discussion is based on there not being one and ways around it. I hope you arent just getting my hopes up :)

symphx
2018-12-01, 09:47
Thank you Thank you for letting me know Michael!

George_C
2018-12-05, 21:49
Thank you Thank you for letting me know Michael!

I see no radio.com app at https://mysqueezebox.com/appgallery

mherger
2018-12-05, 22:32
>> Thank you Thank you for letting me know Michael!
>
> I see no radio.com app at https://mysqueezebox.com/appgallery

It's only available in the US.


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Michael

George_C
2018-12-05, 22:40
I thought I would bump this thread in case someone stmbles onto it in a search.

For WGRAM (buffalo sports talk) the stream that George_C provided worked for quite a while but was dead this morning.

Jim

Just checked this thread again.... Try: http://18073.live.streamtheworld.com/WGRAM.mp3

How did I identify it:

In this case:-

Opened WGR's page: https://wgr550.radio.com/
Clicked on "Listen" in top right corner
Clicked on "Listen Live" . This opens https://player.radio.com/listen/station/wgr-sports
Right click anywhere (??) on the page and choose "Inspect" . A new window will open on the right with a lot of code. [I'm using Chrome, but there are probably equivalent features in other browsers].
Select "Network" from the top menu of the window on the right. "Media" will be selected in the second row below the top level (containing the selected "Network")
Press the Play button visible in the window on the left (https://player.radio.com/listen/station/wgr-sports).
Immediately the audio URL will appear under "Name" in the left column of the right window.
Select that URL. Right click on it, Select "Copy", the "Copy link address" from the submenu.
Paste the link in your browser (or better still in a media player like vlc.com). The copied link address is https://17473.live.streamtheworld.com/WGRAM.mp3?SRC=CBS&DIST=CBS&TGT=cbslocalplayer&tdsdk=js-2.9&pname=TDSdk&pversion=2.9&banners=none%2Cnone%2Cnone&sbmid=b99879d7-df7a-4213-d7b5-ab050f315d34
This will play. But all that is needed is the first part ending before the "?".
This leaves https://17473.live.streamtheworld.com/WGRAM.mp3 This will play in browsers and media players.
For adding this URL as a favorite in Logitech Media Server, remove the 's' from https, and you get http://18073.live.streamtheworld.com/WGRAM.mp3


Try this process with WGR, or other radio website. I don't promise that it will always work, as different problems require different solutions..

gc

George_C
2018-12-05, 22:47
Hello again. My question is how do I get an internet station. This isnt a city etc. Its just a station on radio.com called cbs sports radio? pppppppplease help. thank u.

https://20593.live.streamtheworld.com/CBSSPORTSAAC.aac

RedPanda
2018-12-16, 13:38
Hello, can someone help me find the way to listen to Seattles Hot 103.7 KHTP.
I usually listen in Winamp. It used to work but not since the change to greedy radio.com

mherger
2018-12-16, 14:17
> Hello, can someone help me find the way to listen to Seattles Hot 103.7
> KHTP.

Did you install the radio.com app on mysb.com?

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Michael

RedPanda
2018-12-17, 12:24
> Hello, can someone help me find the way to listen to Seattles Hot 103.7
> KHTP.

Did you install the radio.com app on mysb.com?

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Michael

No, I'm not sure what that is.

RedPanda
2018-12-17, 12:26
Just checked this thread again.... Try: http://18073.live.streamtheworld.com/WGRAM.mp3

How did I identify it:

In this case:-

Opened WGR's page: https://wgr550.radio.com/
Clicked on "Listen" in top right corner
Clicked on "Listen Live" . This opens https://player.radio.com/listen/station/wgr-sports
Right click anywhere (??) on the page and choose "Inspect" . A new window will open on the right with a lot of code. [I'm using Chrome, but there are probably equivalent features in other browsers].
Select "Network" from the top menu of the window on the right. "Media" will be selected in the second row below the top level (containing the selected "Network")
Press the Play button visible in the window on the left (https://player.radio.com/listen/station/wgr-sports).
Immediately the audio URL will appear under "Name" in the left column of the right window.
Select that URL. Right click on it, Select "Copy", the "Copy link address" from the submenu.
Paste the link in your browser (or better still in a media player like vlc.com). The copied link address is https://17473.live.streamtheworld.com/WGRAM.mp3?SRC=CBS&DIST=CBS&TGT=cbslocalplayer&tdsdk=js-2.9&pname=TDSdk&pversion=2.9&banners=none%2Cnone%2Cnone&sbmid=b99879d7-df7a-4213-d7b5-ab050f315d34
This will play. But all that is needed is the first part ending before the "?".
This leaves https://17473.live.streamtheworld.com/WGRAM.mp3 This will play in browsers and media players.
For adding this URL as a favorite in Logitech Media Server, remove the 's' from https, and you get http://18073.live.streamtheworld.com/WGRAM.mp3


Try this process with WGR, or other radio website. I don't promise that it will always work, as different problems require different solutions..

gc

Could someone try this for me, for Seattle Hot 103.7
Thanks.

slartibartfast
2018-12-17, 12:47
No, I'm not sure what that is.Go to https://mysqueezebox.com/index/Home
and look in the app gallery.

Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

RedPanda
2018-12-17, 19:31
Go to https://mysqueezebox.com/index/Home
and look in the app gallery.

Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

Thank you but I'm trying to get the url so I can play outside of my Squeezbox. On a PC or other.

slartibartfast
2018-12-18, 00:06
Thank you but I'm trying to get the url so I can play outside of my Squeezbox. On a PC or other.This is a squeezebox forum. Can't you play from the Radio.com website?

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RedPanda
2018-12-18, 01:38
This is a squeezebox forum. Can't you play from the Radio.com website?

Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

Yes, I know, but I cant use the radio.com app in Canada for some reason it's blocked. I know there is a way around it, I just don't know how to do it. That other poster's sports station works for me, so I'm thinking the same method would work for 103.7

slartibartfast
2018-12-18, 02:10
Yes, I know, but I cant use the radio.com app in Canada for some reason it's blocked. I know there is a way around it, I just don't know how to do it. That other poster's sports station works for me, so I'm thinking the same method would work for 103.7It is probably blocked to anyone outside the US.

Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

George_C
2018-12-30, 18:24
Yes, I know, but I cant use the radio.com app in Canada for some reason it's blocked. I know there is a way around it, I just don't know how to do it. That other poster's sports station works for me, so I'm thinking the same method would work for 103.7

I tried the method I posted earlier for KHTP and failed. In this case, the station wouldn't play on its page (https://player.radio.com/listen/station/hot-1037) on the radio.com site; and I got "Stream error" instead. In the case of WGRAM, the station played successfully on the radio.com site.

The bottom line (I think) is that while the app itself is blocked in Canada, the radio.com website blocks some stations and not others.

Maybe someone in the US could try the method I posted for KHTP and post the URL of the direct stream. Of course that doesn't ensure that it will play outside the US.

gc

ralphy
2018-12-31, 08:06
I tried the method I posted earlier for KHTP and failed. In this case, the station wouldn't play on its page (https://player.radio.com/listen/station/hot-1037) on the radio.com site; and I got "Stream error" instead. In the case of WGRAM, the station played successfully on the radio.com site.

The bottom line (I think) is that while the app itself is blocked in Canada, the radio.com website blocks some stations and not others.

Maybe someone in the US could try the method I posted for KHTP and post the URL of the direct stream. Of course that doesn't ensure that it will play outside the US.

gc

This is the direct URL.


https://18303.live.streamtheworld.com/KHTPFMAAC.aac

It doesn't play in Canada either but since all network traffic at my office routes through the US it plays from there.

RedPanda
2019-02-12, 01:36
This is the direct URL.


https://18303.live.streamtheworld.com/KHTPFMAAC.aac

It doesn't play in Canada either but since all network traffic at my office routes through the US it plays from there.

Thank you for trying. I still have not succeeded.