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Bart Maguire
2005-01-05, 10:25
I have been about to give up on my Squeezebox several times. It is
not easy to set up or use and the documentation and help is not easy
to find and is incomplete.
In particular I am practically unable to make a playlist, the interface via
the remote is far too slow and the web interface is also far too slow
and requires the mouse. I don't use a mouse. For our New Years Day
party I gave up - I went back to my old Winamp system, made a 10
hour playlist in about 5 minutes and played it all day with no
intervention, no lockups and no dropouts. My Winamp system has
been totally reliable for years, has a VFD display in my living room (the
PC is in the basement) and can be controlled with the mouse or a
remote control.
I only tried a Squeezebox because I thought it was being more actively
developed than Winamp, was open-source and might include better
management of streaming content.
Maybe I was wrong - wait to see if my Squeezebox appears on eBay in
a few weeks.

Sally Shears
2005-01-05, 10:58
Bart --

I won't join a give-and-take here since I don't think this is the
place. SqueezeBox may not be for everyone, but many of us are quite
happy. Sorry to hear it's not working well for you.

FWIW, I create my playlists in iTunes and let SlimServer use them.
The web interface works well for me as well even though my SlimServer
is on an ancient machine.

-- Sally

On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 17:25:11 -0000, Bart Maguire
<bartmaguire (AT) yahoo (DOT) co.uk> wrote:
> In particular I am practically unable to make a playlist, the interface via
> the remote is far too slow and the web interface is also far too slow
> and requires the mouse. I don't use a mouse. For our New Years Day
> party I gave up - I went back to my old Winamp system, made a 10
> hour playlist in about 5 minutes and played it all day with no
> intervention, no lockups and no dropouts. ears on eBay in
> a few weeks.
--
Sally Shears (a.k.a. "Molly")
SallyShears (AT) gmail (DOT) com -or- Sally (AT) Shears (DOT) org
(was sshears (AT) theWorld (DOT) com)

ron thigpen
2005-01-05, 12:46
Bart Maguire wrote:

> In particular I am practically unable to make a playlist, the interface via
> the remote is far too slow and the web interface is also far too slow
> and requires the mouse. I don't use a mouse. For our New Years Day
> party I gave up - I went back to my old Winamp system, made a 10
> hour playlist in about 5 minutes [...]

Winamp does support saving M3U and PLS playlist files. If that's your
preferred interface for creating playlists, then why not build them
there and save to the SlimServer's playlist folder?

Granted, library management is not SS's strong suit, but it's not
supposed to be. It's also not a ripper, an encoder, a burner or a
general purpose web server. It's all about getting the content off the
PC and into the rest of the home. Personally, I use a small host of
specialized applications to create and manage my music library. Each
does one or a few things well, and leaves the rest to something else.
SlimServer is one of those apps. Some like the fully integrated iTunes
approach, but I'm happier with a different approach.

--rt

JC
2005-01-06, 22:07
There are a lot of other devices on the market that do similar things. I chose
SB because of the open source software and how the support goes for it, which is
generally way, way way better then I'd EVER get if I shelled out for a "big
company" device and all I gotta do is join this list.

as a software engineer working on linux for many yrs, this was "home" for me.

but, for others, the whole linux thing is Greek Speak.



Sally Shears wrote:

> Bart --
>
> I won't join a give-and-take here since I don't think this is the
> place. SqueezeBox may not be for everyone, but many of us are quite
> happy. Sorry to hear it's not working well for you.
>
> FWIW, I create my playlists in iTunes and let SlimServer use them.
> The web interface works well for me as well even though my SlimServer
> is on an ancient machine.
>
> -- Sally
>
> On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 17:25:11 -0000, Bart Maguire
> <bartmaguire (AT) yahoo (DOT) co.uk> wrote:
> > In particular I am practically unable to make a playlist, the interface via
> > the remote is far too slow and the web interface is also far too slow
> > and requires the mouse. I don't use a mouse. For our New Years Day
> > party I gave up - I went back to my old Winamp system, made a 10
> > hour playlist in about 5 minutes and played it all day with no
> > intervention, no lockups and no dropouts. ears on eBay in
> > a few weeks.
> --
> Sally Shears (a.k.a. "Molly")
> SallyShears (AT) gmail (DOT) com -or- Sally (AT) Shears (DOT) org
> (was sshears (AT) theWorld (DOT) com)
>

Graham Ridgway at home
2005-01-07, 12:12
I guess that was one of my main points in starting the thread.

1. for me the experience is good, but not great like it used to be (and I
don't get drop-outs).
2. I assume that the clever people at slim devices (and I do mean that, it's
very hard not to sound sarcastic over email) are doing their stuff from a
market/marketing perspective. They have chosen their target audience. To
me (as a user) the whole opensource/linux thing is a complete red-herring
(good to see that publication back by the way). Although I would like to
think I'm really into funky features, plugins and the latest bits, I'm not!
I just want my music, easily playable round the house (and in my car),
sounding good and easily accessed by me and my family.

Graham
----- Original Message -----
From: "JC" <sb (AT) stillriver (DOT) org>
To: "Slim Devices Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 5:07 AM
Subject: [slim] A user's perspective


>
> There are a lot of other devices on the market that do similar things. I
> chose
> SB because of the open source software and how the support goes for it,
> which is
> generally way, way way better then I'd EVER get if I shelled out for a
> "big
> company" device and all I gotta do is join this list.
>
> as a software engineer working on linux for many yrs, this was "home" for
> me.
>
> but, for others, the whole linux thing is Greek Speak.
>
>
>
> Sally Shears wrote:
>
>> Bart --
>>
>> I won't join a give-and-take here since I don't think this is the
>> place. SqueezeBox may not be for everyone, but many of us are quite
>> happy. Sorry to hear it's not working well for you.
>>
>> FWIW, I create my playlists in iTunes and let SlimServer use them.
>> The web interface works well for me as well even though my SlimServer
>> is on an ancient machine.
>>
>> -- Sally
>>
>> On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 17:25:11 -0000, Bart Maguire
>> <bartmaguire (AT) yahoo (DOT) co.uk> wrote:
>> > In particular I am practically unable to make a playlist, the interface
>> > via
>> > the remote is far too slow and the web interface is also far too slow
>> > and requires the mouse. I don't use a mouse. For our New Years Day
>> > party I gave up - I went back to my old Winamp system, made a 10
>> > hour playlist in about 5 minutes and played it all day with no
>> > intervention, no lockups and no dropouts. ears on eBay in
>> > a few weeks.
>> --
>> Sally Shears (a.k.a. "Molly")
>> SallyShears (AT) gmail (DOT) com -or- Sally (AT) Shears (DOT) org
>> (was sshears (AT) theWorld (DOT) com)
>>

Jack Coates
2005-01-07, 13:06
Bart Maguire wrote:
> I have been about to give up on my Squeezebox several times. It is
> not easy to set up or use and the documentation and help is not easy
> to find and is incomplete.
> In particular I am practically unable to make a playlist, the interface via
> the remote is far too slow and the web interface is also far too slow
> and requires the mouse. I don't use a mouse. For our New Years Day

sorry it's not working out for you -- perhaps you should try another
skin though. Using the Fishbone skin, I just dug up an album and played
it with nothing but tab, shift, and enter.

The real issue here is one of liking it or not. If you like the system,
you'll use it enough to learn its features, you'll find workarounds or
fixes for the stuff that isn't like you like it. Yes, I realize there
are users who are still having problems and I don't mean to invalidate
your experience, as they say here in Berkeley :-)

If you don't like the system enough to replace one that you've already
got, well, sometimes it doesn't work out. Can't please all the people
all the time, as it were. I know I certainly tried a home-brew system
before I bought my first SliMP3, and if I'd been able to get decent
sound quality out of it I wouldn't have bought the Slim.

--
Jack at Monkeynoodle dot Org: It's a Scientific Venture...
Riding the Emergency Third Rail Power Trip since 1996!