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rkrug
2018-02-05, 01:10
I am looking for a new player and the Pi Zero looks interesting - does it work as good as the Pi as a LMS player? I have seen, that I can install picoreplayer (YEAH!!!!).

I don't plan on running a LMS server on the Zero...

Are there any downsides to using a Zero instead of a fully fledged Pi?

Thanks,

Rainer

drmatt
2018-02-05, 03:24
Lack of proper USB ports is the only downside. Also a bit slower than a Pi3 would be given the reduced ram and CPU capability but more than enough as a music player.


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mherger
2018-02-05, 09:19
> I am looking for a new player and the Pi Zero looks interesting - does
> it work as good as the Pi as a LMS player? I have seen, that I can
> install picoreplayer (YEAH!!!!).

I do have a Pi Zero with an amp hat and pCP set up which I use with a
pair of old speakers. All USB powered :-). Which means, you can't blow
your house, but it's loud enough for my home office. And if you want
more output, you can hook up a power supply to that amp (JustBoom Amp
Zero pHAT)

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Michael

atca
2018-02-05, 10:45
I find the pizero a little underpowered.

+WiFi once enclosed a little weak.

+Lack of Ethernet and full size USB frustrating when trying to configure and set it up.

Standard Pi was far quicker and easier to setup.



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drmatt
2018-02-05, 13:05
PiZ: I find the WiFi better than expected - for me it works from the bottom of the garden to the bottom of the drive, and every room in the house (and the loft). (Single draytek access point, fwiw.)
Creating an image with pre-configured WiFi to flash onto the SD card is pretty straightforward too. But the lack of USB means clumsy break out cables if there's anything you need to connect that way.


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gregklanderman
2018-02-06, 08:42
What's the best option for a player only (no LMS) and ethernet connectivity (no Wifi) to stream flacs? I like the much lower power consumption of the zero but by the time I add a USB-to-ethernet adapter will I be at the same price and power as a Pi2? Or for the same price as the Pi2 should I just go Pi3? Not sure yet about amp hat vs separate amp, there will probably be some of each.

thanks
Greg

d6jg
2018-02-06, 09:34
I have a Pi Zero that I was going to use with a USB HiFiMe Sabre DAC as a minimal size player. I can't get the USB DAC to work for love nor money. However it works out of the box with a Pi3 so on that basis I'd opt for a Pi3.

drmatt
2018-02-06, 10:07
Imho the only products that make sense are the pi zero w and the pi 3. The pi zero w adds comms capabilities and the pi 3 costs the same as a pi 2 (if you can still get one).

By the time you factor the cost of a PSU, SD card, case, and whatever accessories you need the saving between different pi models looks pretty pathetic.

From a power budget POV the pi 3 has higher CPU headroom and can consume more but it's still pretty efficient when idle.

And I much prefer the built in Ethernet n the full size pi rather than a double dongle on a usb on the go adapter.


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gregklanderman
2018-02-07, 08:57
thanks for the replies, d6jg, drmatt, and DJanGo.. sounds like for me pi3 is the right option.

drmatt any idea how much power a pi3 uses when idle?

thanks,
greg

drmatt
2018-02-07, 11:42
Lmgtfy.. https://www.pidramble.com/wiki/benchmarks/power-consumption ;)

260mA.. i.e. same as a pi zero w plus USB hub, twice as much ram and four faster cores. FWIW 1.4w equates to approx 1.40 per year in electricity.


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piPlayer
2018-02-08, 01:05
I have four RPI based players with piCore working at my home, one RPI 1B (single core cpu), one RPI A+ (single core cpu) and two RPI 2.
I cant find any differences between the performance of these models. So I am pretty shure, that the Pi zero also working well as a piCorePlayer.
For a friend I am build a all in one standalone player with piCore and lms working on a RPI. My first steps I made with an RPI 1B and figured out a lack of performance. So I did it finaly with a RPI 2.

tbali
2018-02-08, 05:26
I recommend the Zero with a JustBoom Amp Zero pHAT. The pHAT can power the Pi, and you can choose a power supply to match the speakers you want to connect. It has very good sound quality and even great music power, if you need it.

If your wifi AP is far from the Pi or you want to put it into a metal enclosure, you can use external antennas with a dongle or even solder an antenna connector to the Zero-W. I'm using a wifi dongle without housing directly soldered to the Zero's USB test points (and put into heat-shrink tubing) + an external antenna.

I love this setup, as it is small, low-cost, versatile and has good sound quality.

gregklanderman
2018-02-08, 08:54
Lmgtfy.. https://www.pidramble.com/wiki/benchmarks/power-consumption ;)

260mA.. i.e. same as a pi zero w plus USB hub, twice as much ram and four faster cores. FWIW 1.4w equates to approx 1.40 per year in electricity.


yeah really not worth worrying about :-)

thank you and sorry for not just googling it myself..

Greg Erskine
2018-02-08, 13:55
Get both, you always need another Raspberry Pi. :)