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Jason
2004-12-31, 10:28
Jim,

There is an Internet RFC that covers this subject. It weighs the opinions
of hundreds of people who have been around since the Internet was created.
The general consensus is that top posting is rude (you will note that I top
post anyways).

Just deal with it and get on with your life. It's hardly worth the strain
and anguish of trying to prove your point when there is already an RFC that
covers this in detail and sides with those who insist trimming quoted text
and bottom posting is the only way to go.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
> [mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com] On Behalf Of Jim McCall
> Sent: Friday, December 31, 2004 9:36 AM
> To: Slim Devices
> Subject: [slim] List etiquette: always start your post
> above thequoted text!
>
> >> After all, if there is a thread of 10 posts that I am reading,
> >> realistically I am not going to read the quoted text.
> >
> > But what if you just started reading the discussion ?
> >
> >> It is there just for a reference if I want to see it.
> >
> > On the contrary, you should be reading it.
> >
>
> My point that may have been missed is that if I am reading
> all 10 posts, there is no value in reading the quoted text: I
> have already read it in the message body - since I am reading
> the conversation in time-sorted order. For the first message
> perhaps I might scan the quoted text, but after that, no.
> To have to re-read the already read text every time I see a
> message is insane. Or to have to scroll down past the already
> written post is insane.
>
>
> >> If I wanted to read the quoted text in each of those 10 posts, it
> >> would triple the time it took to plow through the thread and get
> >> pretty redundant.
> >
> > This is why discussion is so poor these days - people are trying to
> > get through so much material, that they don't really read what
> > everyone else is
> saying, they just want to make their statement.
> >
>
> I would not characterize this forum that way. Very little
> shouting makes this forum a strong one for me. For the topics
> I am interested, I read them (if I could only find some more time...)
>
> > And, of course, the above is an example of why top posting doesn't
> > work - because one can need to refer to more than one statement.
> >
>
> I have not found that to be a problem. I view my messages threaded.
> Regardless of some governing body who deems their wisdom
> paramount, I find top posting effective and clear. I don't
> agree with their viewpoint and don't even like the idea that
> a single organization can specify appropriate policy for each
> organization in the entire world. They are definition obscure
> because of their "my way or the highway" belief system.
>
> Jim
>
>
>
>

Jack Coates
2004-12-31, 10:33
Jason wrote:
> Jim,
>
> There is an Internet RFC that covers this subject. It weighs the opinions
> of hundreds of people who have been around since the Internet was created.
> The general consensus is that top posting is rude (you will note that I top
> post anyways).
>
> Just deal with it and get on with your life. It's hardly worth the strain
> and anguish of trying to prove your point when there is already an RFC that
> covers this in detail and sides with those who insist trimming quoted text
> and bottom posting is the only way to go.
>

another way to do it is to write the rant in as much detail as makes you
feel good, then post it on the Internet and just send the URL. Saves typing.

http://www.monkeynoodle.org/comp/reply-to

:)

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