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Ken Hokugo
2004-12-31, 09:34
Don't go there!
I almost asked you what digital cable you are using. Yeah, I know the
difital cable changes the sound. For now I am using a cheap glass tosling -
after spending a lot on coax cables. Some (many?) coax sounds better than
toslink, but I wanted to stop spending too much on cables and decided to
settle on the theoretically-best glass toslink. Maybe it is time I started
all over agin...

I very much agree that SB is a very good transport. Looking forward to
improving it further. I am realizing that clock-sync is one of the very
important factors for good sound.

Ken

From: Mark Bennett <mark (AT) markandliz (DOT) co.uk>
Reply-To: Slim Devices Discussion <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
To: Slim Devices Discussion <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
Subject: [slim] [Audiophile] Squeezebox doesn't work with Cyrus DACX
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 16:00:14 +0000

There are quite a few of us on the list, some more active than
others, each with different setups. Several have commented on
how good the Squeezebox actually is for an audiophile setup,
especially for something so inexpensive.

I have to agree, after hearing it through a high end (soon to
be mine) system and using an external DAC. I was clearly hearing
instruments and sounds in music I never even knew existed, and
the man in the hi-fi shop was very impressed.

<very audiophile - ignore if you get bored of this easily>

I would have been sceptical about the benefit of modding the
squeezebox until yesterday. Up until then I didn't think that
any change in the digital domain would make any significant
difference in the audio quality. Then the hi-fi dealer
switched the digital interconnect between squeezebox and DAC,
from my cheap cable to an expensive one and there was a
substantial difference in the sound. We went backwards and
forwards a few times and it seemed to be real, although I
had great difficulty believing my ears.

Some real blind A-B testing next week will be required to
convince myself that this is a real effect.

Following that, I've had to acknowledge that many of my
prejudices on "audiophile claims" are probably untrue, so
it may well be worthwhile improving the SB.


On Fri, 2004-12-31 at 10:21 -0500, Ken Hokugo wrote:
> Hi Mark,
>
> Thanks for sharing your interesting finding. Interesting, indeed. I
wonder
> how many here are using SB for audiphile application. I, myself, am
using
> it for that purpose although I have never encountered the phoenomenon you
> mention. My only wish is to have SB mod'ed so that it has external clock
> sync function which someone in France is trying to release soon. I think
> the power supply and the clock are the Achilles' heel of SB to be really
> competetive in that arena.
>
> A happy new year for everyone.
>
> Ken
>
>
> From: Mark Bennett <mark (AT) markandliz (DOT) co.uk>
> Reply-To: Slim Devices Discussion <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
> To: Slim Devices Discussion <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
> Subject: [slim] [Audiophile] Squeezebox doesn't work with Cyrus DACX
> Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 12:21:07 +0000
>
> <audiophile>
>
> For those that are interested I tested the Squeezebox with the Cyrus
> DACX external DAC, and we couldn't get it to work. This was using
> Server 5.3.1 & Firmware 39, which was what was happened to be left
> on my laptop from a previous demo. I'm not aware of any significant
> changes related to digital outs recently, so I would guess that
> whatever the problem is, it's probably still there in the current
> version.
>
> The DACX recognises signal, and correctly identifies it's 44.1kHz,
> but we couldn't hear any music coming out. We tried both RCA and
> optical leads, and several inputs on the DAC, but the same story
> with all of them.
>
> This is the first modern external DAC (it's less than 6 months from
> product release) that I remember seeing reported that *doesn't* work
> with the Squeezebox - it's mainly been older DAC's.
>
> This isn't a problem for me, because I elected not to go for the
> Cyrus system anyway, but I thought I'd make anyone else who
> might be interested aware.
>
> For the record, the Benchmark DAC-1 was exceptional using it's
> balanced outputs fed into a balanced AMP.
>
> One friend has also reported excellent results using the Chord DAC64,
> although I haven't yet had the opportunity to listen to it.
>
> </audiophile>
>
> --
> Mark Bennett <mark (AT) markandliz (DOT) co.uk>
>
>