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Mr. Bill
2017-04-05, 10:01
Michael, a few questions for you or anyone else who has the answer. I read on the Developers forum the following you posted in response to a Spotify question some weeks ago:

> LibSpotify has been considered deprecated since 2015 and will be shut
> down in 2017
>
> All current spotify plugins are libspotify based, so they will cease to
> function...

You responded:

>Yep, that will be the end. Unfortunately for the Radio/Touch, too, as
>they are using libspotify in the firmware.

>Who's taking the challenge to come up with the first librespot based
>plugin (https://github.com/plietar/librespot)?...

My first question is when you updated the Spotify app a year or so ago, that this update used the new librespot library so for those of us using Spotify through the MSB interface and running a radio or touch we would be OK. Your recent post seems to indicate that the hardware firmware will need an update which is unlikely, correct?

My second question is do you have a date when we will loose Spotify and are there any other options available? I read about Ickstream but it doesn't seem to have a Spotify implementation fully developed yet or even if it is still being supported.

Thanks, Bill

mherger
2017-04-05, 21:47
> My first question is when you updated the Spotify app a year or so ago,
> that this update used the new librespot library so for those of us using

No, it did not.

- The libspotify issue is a firmware issue. We're using it for the
playback only.

- The re-write was about the navigation, content finding, not the
playback. All server-side. Moving from the old metadata API to the new
web API.

- Logitech can't use an in-official, reverse-engineered library which
has not been approved by Spotify anyway.

> Spotify through the MSB interface and running a radio or touch we would
> be OK. Your recent post seems to indicate that the hardware firmware
> will need an update which is unlikely, correct?

Yes.

> My second question is do you have a date when we will loose Spotify and
> are there any other options available? I read about Ickstream but it
> doesn't seem to have a Spotify implementation fully developed yet or
> even if it is still being supported.

No, no date yet. And ickStream would most likely suffer the same fate.


--

Michael

pippin
2017-04-06, 14:33
No, no date yet. And ickStream would most likely suffer the same fate.


Not necessarily.
Working this right now.
I could maybe see a way forward for Logitech, too, but that would mean work and a firmware update.

mherger
2017-04-06, 22:06
>> No, no date yet. And ickStream would most likely suffer the same fate.
>
> Not necessarily.
> Working this right now.

Sounds good!

> I could maybe see a way forward for Logitech, too, but that would mean
> work and a firmware update.

Sure.

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Michael

zordaz
2017-04-18, 07:24
I dropped by this thread and also read the announcement on the Spotify developer website that Libspotify will finally be phased out somewhere this year.
This is worrying news for the majority of the Squeezebox users I think. So what surprises me is that apparently not many people seem concerned. Or is it all happening behind the scenes?

The Squeezebox community was able to handle many challenges during the years, but can it handle this one? So far it feels to me like a possible final nail...
Or am I too pessimistic? Is it yet possible to find technical (and legal) solutions to replace Libspotify? If so: do we already have any clue in which direction to go?

bb1959
2017-04-18, 08:04
This would be the final nail for me. My two SBT's w/the vortexbox is already buggy. Always having to diagnose what the issue is when I want to listen to music. I just can't turn it on and play music...something always has to be fixed....Every. Single. Time!

If/when spotify goes I will probably get a Bluesound Node 2 (or two of them since I have two Touches).



I dropped by this thread and also read the announcement on the Spotify developer website that Libspotify will finally be phased out somewhere this year.
This is worrying news for the majority of the Squeezebox users I think. So what surprises me is that apparently not many people seem concerned. Or is it all happening behind the scenes?

The Squeezebox community was able to handle many challenges during the years, but can it handle this one? So far it feels to me like a possible final nail...
Or am I too pessimistic? Is it yet possible to find technical (and legal) solutions to replace Libspotify? If so: do we already have any clue in which direction to go?

TomAmes
2017-04-18, 11:32
I dropped by this thread and also read the announcement on the Spotify developer website that Libspotify will finally be phased out somewhere this year.
This is worrying news for the majority of the Squeezebox users I think. So what surprises me is that apparently not many people seem concerned. Or is it all happening behind the scenes?

The Squeezebox community was able to handle many challenges during the years, but can it handle this one? So far it feels to me like a possible final nail...
Or am I too pessimistic? Is it yet possible to find technical (and legal) solutions to replace Libspotify? If so: do we already have any clue in which direction to go?

I am quite concerned. It would be a huge loss for me if I could not access Spotify via my Squeezeboxen. I am hopeful that someone can find a way.

drmatt
2017-04-18, 11:55
Never used Spotify, don't expect to start. Doesn't bother me one jot if it goes away. Everything does, all is ephemeral on the internet.

bb1959
2017-04-18, 12:41
I have discovered quite a bit of new music on spotify that I would never have heard had I not had it (or another streaming service). If I like it enough, I get the cd/vinyl or whatever lossless.

But hey, whatever works for you.


Never used Spotify, don't expect to start. Doesn't bother me one jot if it goes away. Everything does, all is ephemeral on the internet.

drmatt
2017-04-18, 14:14
I used to do that in a record library. :)

Just saying that for a lot of people the loss of this one aspect won't kill the platform.

slartibartfast
2017-04-18, 15:42
If it does go then an echo dot or chromecast can replace the Spotify functionality. Not ideal but better than nothing. I would much prefer another plugin.

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zordaz
2017-04-21, 05:25
I would much prefer another plugin.


Agreed, and I am willing to help where possible but I am not a coder so don't know where to start...

JeffHart
2017-04-23, 08:56
Would be interested in working on a plugin but honestly uncertain if I'd have time. For some reason, the Triode's 3rd party plugin stopped working yesterday, wasn't able to troubleshoot so changed to the helper & official Spotify app. Seems to be working so far, no problem streaming to 3 receivers and a boom simultaneously.

Tried using Shairtunes to stream the Spotify app from my iPad and it was choppy, might be ok with just one or two receivers. Would be my fallback if no working Spotify app.

Celeritas
2017-06-18, 11:52
I will listen dutifully until the end...

Celeritas
2017-06-18, 21:39
Seems I wasn't reading the right section of the board...

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?107418-For-the-brave-only-the-Spotty-Spotify-implementation

I am so impressed by the perseverance of this community.