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Steven Moore
2004-12-23, 06:46
I think this was asked before, but was not answered, I may be wrong.
I want to retain itunes integration but I want to switch of the auto
reload of the music library and reload manually. Is there any way to do
this? The setting is currently 60.
It seems that when I am playing music in itunes the slimserver is
reloading the library when I play songs, perhaps itunes is updating
it's library each time (play count etc).

Mac os 10.3.7, slimserver 5.4

Thanks

Steven Moore.

kdf
2004-12-23, 10:05
if you are using the itunesupdater plugin or using itunes itself to play songs
or create playlist, then you are changing the library. I'm not asolutely sure,
but a value of zero should effectively disable the autoreload. However,
failing that, use a number arbitrarily large.
-kdf

Quoting Steven Moore <steven (AT) mooreni (DOT) freeserve.co.uk>:

> I think this was asked before, but was not answered, I may be wrong.
> I want to retain itunes integration but I want to switch of the auto
> reload of the music library and reload manually. Is there any way to do
> this? The setting is currently 60.
> It seems that when I am playing music in itunes the slimserver is
> reloading the library when I play songs, perhaps itunes is updating
> it's library each time (play count etc).
>
> Mac os 10.3.7, slimserver 5.4
>
> Thanks
>
> Steven Moore.
>
>

Steven Moore
2004-12-23, 11:20
Thanks for the reply,
I tried a value of zero but this did not work, but 10000000 does, so it
won't update for over 115 days!


Steven Moore

On 23 Dec 2004, at 5:05 pm, kdf wrote:

> if you are using the itunesupdater plugin or using itunes itself to
> play songs
> or create playlist, then you are changing the library. I'm not
> asolutely sure,
> but a value of zero should effectively disable the autoreload.
> However,
> failing that, use a number arbitrarily large.
> -kdf
>
> Quoting Steven Moore <steven (AT) mooreni (DOT) freeserve.co.uk>:
>
>> I think this was asked before, but was not answered, I may be wrong.
>> I want to retain itunes integration but I want to switch of the auto
>> reload of the music library and reload manually. Is there any way to
>> do
>> this? The setting is currently 60.
>> It seems that when I am playing music in itunes the slimserver is
>> reloading the library when I play songs, perhaps itunes is updating
>> it's library each time (play count etc).
>>
>> Mac os 10.3.7, slimserver 5.4
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Steven Moore.
>>
>>

Healy
2005-01-11, 14:25
Question:

If you set this to a high value, does that carry over into server
restarts? IE: if I shutdown the server
and then restart it, does it automatically reload the itunes data or
does it still wait until the period of
time has expired?

The reason I ask is that my server does not appear to pick up changes
even if I restart the server
itself. I've got my itunes reload set to a really high number though.
I just clocked it down to 60 mins
to see if that purges the old data that still hangs around.

Currently using: SlimServer_v5.4.0


On Dec 23, 2004, at 10:20 AM, Steven Moore wrote:

> Thanks for the reply,
> I tried a value of zero but this did not work, but 10000000 does, so
> it won't update for over 115 days!
>
>
> Steven Moore
>
> On 23 Dec 2004, at 5:05 pm, kdf wrote:
>
>> if you are using the itunesupdater plugin or using itunes itself to
>> play songs
>> or create playlist, then you are changing the library. I'm not
>> asolutely sure,
>> but a value of zero should effectively disable the autoreload.
>> However,
>> failing that, use a number arbitrarily large.
>> -kdf
>>
>> Quoting Steven Moore <steven (AT) mooreni (DOT) freeserve.co.uk>:
>>
>>> I think this was asked before, but was not answered, I may be wrong.
>>> I want to retain itunes integration but I want to switch of the auto
>>> reload of the music library and reload manually. Is there any way to
>>> do
>>> this? The setting is currently 60.
>>> It seems that when I am playing music in itunes the slimserver is
>>> reloading the library when I play songs, perhaps itunes is updating
>>> it's library each time (play count etc).
>>>
>>> Mac os 10.3.7, slimserver 5.4
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Steven Moore.
>>>
>>>

kdf
2005-01-11, 14:30
Quoting Healy <slim (AT) nwgeeks (DOT) com>:

> Question:
>
> If you set this to a high value, does that carry over into server
> restarts? IE: if I shutdown the server
> and then restart it, does it automatically reload the itunes data or
> does it still wait until the period of
> time has expired?
>
> The reason I ask is that my server does not appear to pick up changes
> even if I restart the server
> itself. I've got my itunes reload set to a really high number though.
> I just clocked it down to 60 mins
> to see if that purges the old data that still hangs around.
>
> Currently using: SlimServer_v5.4.0

the design of the server currently (5.4.1) is to have the scan happen on
startup if changes are detected. This was not initiated correctly in 5.4.0
which would explain why the changes do not cause a scan on startup.

-kdf

Healy
2005-01-11, 18:27
On Jan 11, 2005, at 1:30 PM, kdf wrote:

> Quoting Healy <slim (AT) nwgeeks (DOT) com>:
>
>> Question:
>>
>> If you set this to a high value, does that carry over into server
>> restarts? IE: if I shutdown the server
>> and then restart it, does it automatically reload the itunes data or
>> does it still wait until the period of
>> time has expired?
>>
>> The reason I ask is that my server does not appear to pick up changes
>> even if I restart the server
>> itself. I've got my itunes reload set to a really high number though.
>> I just clocked it down to 60 mins
>> to see if that purges the old data that still hangs around.
>>
>> Currently using: SlimServer_v5.4.0
>
> the design of the server currently (5.4.1) is to have the scan happen
> on
> startup if changes are detected. This was not initiated correctly in
> 5.4.0
> which would explain why the changes do not cause a scan on startup.
>

OK. Until 5.4.1 is official, is there a way to force the changes?
Setting it to 60 mins did not
seem to have any effect. It's still showing old playlists that no
longer exist in iTunes.

kdf
2005-01-11, 19:18
Quoting Healy <slim (AT) nwgeeks (DOT) com>:

> OK. Until 5.4.1 is official, is there a way to force the changes?
> Setting it to 60 mins did not
> seem to have any effect. It's still showing old playlists that no
> longer exist in iTunes.

server settings->rescan
that should just do a refresh of the cache.

setting to 'don't use iTunes' then changing back to 'use iTunes' will also force
a read of the itunes library.

Those options will help with new stuff, but not with removing old playlists.
That's another bug, also fixed in 5.4.1. Only a wipe cache properly clears the
playlists.

As for 5.4.1 being official, I haven't heard any dates, but I can say that there
isn't much change happening in 5.4.1 lately. I'd hazard to say it as good as
any official release would be. There are currently no bugs marked targetted for
5.4.1. There might be some unmarked ones that might slip in before release,
but they are probably ones that you are already capable of running into with
5.4.0.

-kdf

Healy
2005-01-11, 19:51
On Jan 11, 2005, at 6:18 PM, kdf wrote:

> Quoting Healy <slim (AT) nwgeeks (DOT) com>:
>
>> OK. Until 5.4.1 is official, is there a way to force the changes?
>> Setting it to 60 mins did not
>> seem to have any effect. It's still showing old playlists that no
>> longer exist in iTunes.
>
> server settings->rescan
> that should just do a refresh of the cache.


I tried that before writing the list, no change.

>
> setting to 'don't use iTunes' then changing back to 'use iTunes' will
> also force
> a read of the itunes library.

Have not tried this yet.

>
> Those options will help with new stuff, but not with removing old
> playlists.

Ah, that's why I didn't notice a change when I did a rescan.

> That's another bug, also fixed in 5.4.1. Only a wipe cache properly
> clears the
> playlists.

I Swear I did a wipe cache as well. I tend to do that instead of a
rescan when
I'm having issues. I may not have though. I've got over 25,000 songs
& it takes
a while to do. I tried 6.0 alpha a week or so ago but it crashed every
time I
used the SB itself. I have not had time to trouble shoot it.
>
> As for 5.4.1 being official, I haven't heard any dates, but I can say
> that there
> isn't much change happening in 5.4.1 lately. I'd hazard to say it as
> good as
> any official release would be. There are currently no bugs marked
> targetted for
> 5.4.1. There might be some unmarked ones that might slip in before
> release,
> but they are probably ones that you are already capable of running
> into with
> 5.4.0.
>

Ack.

kdf
2005-01-11, 21:16
Quoting Healy <slim (AT) nwgeeks (DOT) com>:


> > but they are probably ones that you are already capable of running
> > into with
> > 5.4.0.
> >
>
> Ack.

ok, maybe i was a bit wordy there. I meant to say it is very likely to solve
the problems you are seeing, without bringing in any new ones.
-kdf