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castalla
2016-09-08, 16:48
Just a brief review of 2 squeezebox speaker players:

Libratone Zipp
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A modern tubular design - 360 degree sound. mains & battery operation (8 hrs). Operates as both dnla/upnp and airplay. Excellent rich sound. Expensive, but 5 stars if available at a discount.

The native Zipp app has equalization settings - these settings carry over to the LMS settings - useful.

Loewe Airspeaker
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Compact minimalist design. Only operates as airplay, and mains power, but offers network standby. Limited wifi range. Excellent sound quality. Out of production, but available via ebay sources. Another 5 stars.

epoch1970
2016-09-08, 23:57
As a former user of the original Zipp, having not heard the "new" Zipp, but based on Castalla's comment I will venture that the new Zipp Mini variant is worth 3.5~4 stars, depending on your listening habits.
Basically this smaller/lighter speaker does not display the bass and medium of the regular Zipp. Not a tinny sound, but doesn't impress in terms of range and volume as the regular model does. Same ~8 hrs battery life.

Apesbrain
2016-09-09, 08:01
You had me excited there for a moment, but they're not really "Squeezebox speakers". It would be great to see any of the current crop of lesser alternatives (SONOS, HEOS, Definitive Tech, Samsung, Yamaha, Bose, Polk, etc.) support SlimProto!

castalla
2016-09-09, 08:13
You had me excited there for a moment, but they're not really "Squeezebox speakers". It would be great to see any of the current crop of lesser alternatives (SONOS, HEOS, Definitive Tech, Samsung, Yamaha, Bose, Polk, etc.) support SlimProto!

You can use Sonos as squeezeplayers - work very well. Bose are a no-no as they don't have dlna certified status.

usc95
2016-09-09, 09:02
I am hopeful that the new Vizio speakers with built in Google Cast will first sound good and second work with the Castbridge plugin:
https://www.vizio.com/smartcast-home-audio

I am also intrigued by this speaker:
https://www.amazon.com/GGMM-Bluetooth-Featuring-Multi-Room-Streaming/dp/B00WGOO2AW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1473436858&sr=8-1&keywords=airplay+speakers

I doubt it would qualify as "high-end" but could be good value and I think it looks kind of neat - but only if it works with the airplay bridge.

d6jg
2016-09-09, 12:25
None of the above is really high end to those downstairs in the Audiofools lounge!

Mnyb
2016-09-09, 22:48
The most high end you can do is simply using spdiff to a real hifi system , enjoy :)

... But for portable small formactor speakers that's goes anywhere , hints and reviews are most vercome .

In my secondary locations I use active speakers of any kind that takes analog or spdiff . That opens the field to almost anything as you now can peruse proaudio or "computer speakers" that's was previously a word for really crappy speakers but they tend to merge in the middle nowadays , active monitors getting cheap and computer speakers looking more like active monitors .
And you can cut out the traditional hifi dealer in yet another way , go to music store where they sell keyboards guitar etc . They can have a home studio corner .

epoch1970
2016-09-10, 01:03
... It would be great to see any of the current crop of lesser alternatives (SONOS, HEOS, Definitive Tech, Samsung, Yamaha, Bose, Polk, etc.) support SlimProto!
Yeah. I'd be curious to know what went wrong when this sync tech works fantastic, uses standard IP, has lots of clients in the wild, a large open source code library... And now we have to call DLNA/ccast/airplay progress.
Anyways, let me praise philippe_44's job here again. With his Airplay bridge, he turns those devices into the most convincing of SB players.

bpa
2016-09-10, 01:13
Yeah. I'd be curious to know what went wrong when this sync tech works fantastic.

Airplay and Chromecast are licensed by Apple and Vendor to speaker vendors and the implementations are supported by Apple and Google. I'm guessing Logitech are unable to license slimproto to others and vendors won't implement a proprietary protocol without support.

epoch1970
2016-09-10, 04:56
I'm guessing Logitech are unable to license slimproto to others
How would that be possible? Wasn't slimproto invented by slimdevices?
(my bet would be: at first they didn't try, and then it was too late + redoing the server node too expensive)

bpa
2016-09-10, 05:54
How would that be possible? Wasn't slimproto invented by slimdevices?
(my bet would be: at first they didn't try, and then it was too late + redoing the server node too expensive)

Slimdevices and all intellectual property (e.g protocols, schematics) now belong to Logitech.

Slimproto was open - it seems anybody could implement a client if they wanted for example Roku M1000/2000 and Softsqueeze. However Roku implementation was flawed/limited, didn't seem to get support from Slimdevices as Roku was alwaysd behind the curve with changes to slimserver ( the April fool pics indicated a clear rivalry) and then DLNA became more popular so Roku basically dropped Slimproto and foucssed on DLNA and then killed off the product line. IIRC There were a few other implementation but nothing became commercial becuase client needed specialised h/w and also 3rd party decoders for WMA etc.

philippe_44
2016-09-10, 07:28
You had me excited there for a moment, but they're not really "Squeezebox speakers". It would be great to see any of the current crop of lesser alternatives (SONOS, HEOS, Definitive Tech, Samsung, Yamaha, Bose, Polk, etc.) support SlimProto!

If I may, when using AirPlay devices and that bridge I've made for, it's difficult to differentiate from a non-native slimproto device. Now, if you want high sample res and rate, yes AirPlay is not an option.