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pkfox
2015-11-15, 06:36
Hi all I decided to start a new thread as the original thread *preparing for the demise of my transporter* was suffering from thread drift :-)

I'm basically trying to put together a shopping list to build the best quality player I can using the Pi as the base - here is my first pass at a shopping list

1) Pi version 2
2) Official 7" touch screen
3) Official Screen case ( is there one ? )
3) Dac pro sound card ( is this the best there is ? )
4) piCorePlayer

What I need is confirmation that all these pieces will fit into one case and if they will - what case do I need and do all these parts come with all the screws and what have you to complete the build process in one go? Hope I'm not asking too much :-)

wortgefecht
2015-11-15, 07:29
AFAIK there is an official case for the 7" - but there's no room for a sound card/DAC. Then there is another case for the screen where the Pi board sits on the back without casing. That works with DACs.

The latter look like this:
https://www.pi-shop.ch/raspberry-pi-7-touchscreen-display-frame-noir-732

This is the official case:
https://www.pi-shop.ch/multicomp-gehaeuse-fuer-raspberry-pi-7-zoll-display-der-foundation

There's also this one:
https://www.pi-shop.ch/modmypi-7-touchscreen-gehaeuse-und-staender

I myself am working on a bundle that can be placed in a 43 cm casing and fitted with a 2 line LCD display (think of a replacement for the Transporter rather than the Touch). So far I am still preparing my list of parts, though.

Jeff07971
2015-11-15, 07:44
AFAIK there is an official case for the 7" - but there's no room for a sound card/DAC. Then there is another case for the screen where the Pi board sits on the back without casing. That works with DACs.

The latter look like this:
https://www.pi-shop.ch/raspberry-pi-7-touchscreen-display-frame-noir-732

This is the official case:
https://www.pi-shop.ch/multicomp-gehaeuse-fuer-raspberry-pi-7-zoll-display-der-foundation

There's also this one:
https://www.pi-shop.ch/modmypi-7-touchscreen-gehaeuse-und-staender

I myself am working on a bundle that can be placed in a 43 cm casing and fitted with a 2 line LCD display (think of a replacement for the Transporter rather than the Touch). So far I am still preparing my list of parts, though.


the Max2play case has room for the DAC I believe

pkfox
2015-11-15, 08:21
the Max2play case has room for the DAC I believe

Thanks for the reply - so I need a Max2play case to incorporate the pi + screen + screen card + dac card ?

DJanGo
2015-11-15, 08:56
There is no "the" best PI LMS Player:p

If you want to go the Touch Way - the official 7" Display is your route.
If you want to go the Transporter / 43 cm Way - these "official" / Inoffical cases are to light and small.

A RPI 2 is overkill for a Player only setup - a b+ should do it (mines are underclocked)

A RPI Player thats worth to called the best one always had to be some diy hours in it to match your wishes - otherwise its just one of the best :cool:

Grumpy Bob
2015-11-15, 10:12
I've just set up a Pi2-IQAudioDAC+ with a 7" touch screen. I've used the perspex frame mount for the screen (https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/raspberry-pi-7-touchscreen-display-with-frame?variant=6338094529), and I plan to use a Pibow-Audio case (https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/pibow-audio?variant=5472074753) to house the Pi2-IQAudioDAC+, though I await the Pibow-Audio case to figure out how to attach it to the back of the screen!

Robert

wortgefecht
2015-11-15, 10:25
A RPI 2 is overkill for a Player only setup - a b+ should do it (mines are underclocked)

A RPI Player thats worth to called the best one always had to be some diy hours in it to match your wishes - otherwise its just one of the best :cool:

Sure, but since I want my setup to serve as player and LMS server at the same time, I'm looking into a Odroid C1 + HiFi Shield bundle with PSU and SSD drive.

But you're right, a Pi B+ for a player is enough.

pkfox
2015-11-16, 00:02
I've just set up a Pi2-IQAudioDAC+ with a 7" touch screen. I've used the perspex frame mount for the screen (https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/raspberry-pi-7-touchscreen-display-with-frame?variant=6338094529), and I plan to use a Pibow-Audio case (https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/pibow-audio?variant=5472074753) to house the Pi2-IQAudioDAC+, though I await the Pibow-Audio case to figure out how to attach it to the back of the screen!

Robert

So you'll end up with two boxes ? - how will you connect the screen to the pi ?

DJanGo
2015-11-16, 04:04
So you'll end up with two boxes ? - how will you connect the screen to the pi ?

If you would look on the sites that sell what you wanna buy....
https://www.adafruit.com/products/2033
The official display is connected to the pi with the official displayport ( otherwise official wouldnt make some sense - when the pi has a diaplay port?)

kidstypike
2015-11-16, 05:13
You'll need to check that the HiFiBerry DAC is usable with this setup, as it uses the 40 pin block that seems to be already in use (circled white).

Also will the white ribbon cable bend out of the way? (red arrow)

kolossos4730
2015-11-16, 05:36
You'll need to check that the HiFiBerry DAC is usable with this setup, as it uses the 40 pin block that seems to be already in use (circled white).

Also will the white ribbon cable bend out of the way? (red arrow)

You can also use this Dual microB USB Power Cable (https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/split-microb-usb-power-cable) to avoid the use of the expansion ports for power distribution.

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Jeff07971
2015-11-16, 05:37
You'll need to check that the HiFiBerry DAC is usable with this setup, as it uses the 40 pin block that seems to be already in use (circled white).

Also will the white ribbon cable bend out of the way? (red arrow)

Yes the Hifiberry DAC is usable, I have powered the display from the extention header on the DAC+ Pro (Shown here) all the DAC's from Hifiberry are the same as regards critical parts.

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sbp
2015-11-16, 05:39
You'll need to check that the HiFiBerry DAC is usable with this setup, as it uses the 40 pin block that seems to be already in use (circled white).

Also will the white ribbon cable bend out of the way? (red arrow)

Hi.
If you attached it the other way around you will find that it fits better.
The Cable is now running underneath the card and as a consequence it is much easier to manipulate the SD-card.
Here I use an IQaudIO DAc which has power PINs out that can be used to power the screen and on top of the DAC is the raspberry pi.

Steen

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Grumpy Bob
2015-11-16, 05:41
So you'll end up with two boxes ? - how will you connect the screen to the pi ?

At the moment, the Pi is screwed to the screen's PCB, with the DAC attached via the 40pin connector of the Pi.
I plan to unscrew the Pi from the screen's PCB and mount the Pibow case containing the Pi and DAC in some other way (to be determined empirically when I have the Pibow!) to the back of the screen - connected to the screen by the ribbon cable.

Robert

kolossos4730
2015-11-16, 06:11
Hi.
If you attached it the other way around you will find that it fits better.
The Cable is now running underneath the card and as a consequence it is much easier to manipulate the SD-card.
Here I use an IQaudIO DAc which has power PINs out that can be used to power the screen and on top of the DAC is the raspberry pi.

Steen

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Steen,

Thanks for this solution! Why haven't I thought of this configuration before :confused:

pkfox
2015-11-16, 06:20
You'll need to check that the HiFiBerry DAC is usable with this setup, as it uses the 40 pin block that seems to be already in use (circled white).

Also will the white ribbon cable bend out of the way? (red arrow)

Good point, for now I'm just getting a dac to see how it sounds and use my tablet to control it

alverus
2015-11-16, 06:28
A 10" touchdisplay: http://www.amazon.de/dp/B00ZFEJFQG/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=17TLLVHZALEYA&coliid=I1L5T3666IVQ23&psc=1
A nice USB-DAC: http://hifimediy.com/DACs/ready-made-dacs/9018-dac

My odroid and the DAC is fitted into a slim mITX-case. So looking abroad may be a good way to find a nice case.

Greetings alverus

Giza2020
2015-11-16, 08:48
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?104222-Squeezebox-Touch-functionality-and-Kodi-the-All-In-One-Mediaplayer-with-Max2Play

Plenty of info in this thread. ..not sure if it's been reference already?

tcutting
2015-11-16, 10:12
I like the ability to control a player "directly" via a remote control. I tried to get a simple IR to work (using a photodiode and the GPIO on the RPI), but was having trouble figuring out the details. It would be GREAT of the PiCorePlayer/JiveLite configuration could work with this out-of-the box...
I went to the FLIRC dongle. It works well - I have a mediacenter IR Remote, and I configured the FLIRC to emulate the appropriate keyboard inputs to control JiveLite from the remote. The drawback is it is more costly than the photodiode, and it requires its own USB port, plus I was worried that it might draw more current than the RPi could provide via USB, so I use a powered USB hub (more stuff...).

pkfox
2015-11-17, 00:39
Yes the Hifiberry DAC is usable, I have powered the display from the extention header on the DAC+ Pro (Shown here) all the DAC's from Hifiberry are the same as regards critical parts.

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Hi Jeff, a picture helps me visualise how all the pieces come together , just to be clear - the stack order is graphics card , pi , dac

Jeff07971
2015-11-17, 02:26
Hi Jeff, a picture helps me visualise how all the pieces come together , just to be clear - the stack order is graphics card , pi , dac

Yes that is correct

pinkdot
2015-11-17, 03:19
What about the cables, what I think, I don't like is that, probably, the RCA and USB cables will be visible at the top of the screen? It would be nice is there was an option to hide them. Or you have to buy thinks like these 90 degrees adaptors:

(http://www.amazon.com/AudioQuest-Degree-male-female-adapter/dp/B000J38HZ8)

DJanGo
2015-11-17, 04:40
What about the cables, what I think, I don't like is that, probably, the RCA and USB cables will be visible at the top of the screen? It would be nice is there was an option to hide them. Or you have to buy thinks like these 90 degrees adaptors:

(http://www.amazon.com/AudioQuest-Degree-male-female-adapter/dp/B000J38HZ8)

Why you always have to buy such things?
Isnt the raspberry a startingpoint for DIY and the Y means something like "you" :D:D:D

Edit and this thinggy... Before some buy something like that - whats the reason for cables with 90degress plugs are made for?

Why not using something else ( and if its just a case) and drill four holes on the small side and use that "whatever" as a extended feet?

Best things are always handmade and best things alwas solve two issues in one.

edit²:
I dont think that this is the best player - but lets start a quiz...

Where is the Pi?
http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=17964&stc=1&d=1430654515

..you're wrong there a two Raspberrys - one with an amp in the cigar box - and another in the mini above

pinkdot
2015-11-17, 05:06
Why you always have to buy such things?
Isnt the raspberry a startingpoint for DIY and the Y means something like "you" :D:D:D

Edit and this thinggy... Before some buy something like that - whats the reason for cables with 90degress plugs are made for?

Why not using something else ( and if its just a case) and drill four holes on the small side and use that "whatever" as a extended feet?

Best things are always handmade and best things alwas solve two issues in one.
Nah, I'm from the IKEA generation. That's as far as my interpretation of DIY goes :D. So give me a shopping list, an instruction and I'm happy.

DJanGo
2015-11-17, 05:11
Nah, I'm from the IKEA generation. That's as far as my interpretation of DIY goes :D. So give me a shopping list, an instruction and I'm happy.


i am ikea as well ;-)
but the 1st i throw away is always the instruction - that stuff is that simple....
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wortgefecht
2015-11-17, 06:44
My odroid and the DAC is fitted into a slim mITX-case. So looking abroad may be a good way to find a nice case.

Would you mind to share some pictures of your setup? As an inspiration.

pkfox
2015-11-17, 07:20
Yes that is correct

Hi Jeff I see from your sig you have a Dac + Pro - what do you think of the performance / sound compared to the Squeezers ?

kidstypike
2015-11-17, 08:02
Well mine sounds so good it has to have a guard 24/7, trouble is he has been known to take a nap :)

kolossos4730
2015-11-17, 08:32
What about the cables, what I think, I don't like is that, probably, the RCA and USB cables will be visible at the top of the screen? It would be nice is there was an option to hide them. Or you have to buy thinks like these 90 degrees adaptors:

(http://www.amazon.com/AudioQuest-Degree-male-female-adapter/dp/B000J38HZ8)

You could use an Audiophonics I-Sabre DAC ES9023 V2 TCXO DAC (http://www.audiophonics.fr/en/kits-modules-diy-dac/audiophonics-i-sabre-dac-es9023-v2-tcxo-raspberry-pi-20-a-b-i2s-p-10176.html). This DAC has the RCA connectors aligned with the USB ports/ethernet connection. I have the "normal" version of this DAC and the RCA connectors from the audio cable are visible at the top of the screen. It doesn't bother me though ;)

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d6jg
2015-11-17, 08:57
You could use an Audiophonics I-Sabre DAC ES9023 V2 TCXO DAC (http://www.audiophonics.fr/en/kits-modules-diy-dac/audiophonics-i-sabre-dac-es9023-v2-tcxo-raspberry-pi-20-a-b-i2s-p-10176.html). This DAC has the RCA connectors aligned with the USB ports/ethernet connection. I have the "normal" version of this DAC and the RCA connectors from the audio cable are visible at the top of the screen. It doesn't bother me though ;)

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Found this - for the NON DIY person - the complete thing in a nice case

http://www.audiophonics.fr/en/appareils-hifi-dac/audiophonics-raspdac-network-player-raspberry-pi-20-dac-sabre-p-10369.html

dettofatto
2015-11-17, 09:16
You could use an Audiophonics I-Sabre DAC ES9023 V2 TCXO DAC (http://www.audiophonics.fr/en/kits-modules-diy-dac/audiophonics-i-sabre-dac-es9023-v2-tcxo-raspberry-pi-20-a-b-i2s-p-10176.html). This DAC has the RCA connectors aligned with the USB ports/ethernet connection. I have the "normal" version of this DAC and the RCA connectors from the audio cable are visible at the top of the screen. It doesn't bother me though ;)

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[OT] What about this dac? It's better than hifiberry? What do you think?

pinkdot
2015-11-17, 10:10
You could use an Audiophonics I-Sabre DAC ES9023 V2 TCXO DAC.

Almost forgot about Audiophonics! May try there DAC soon.

@DJanGo: they even have a nice shopping list (http://www.audiophonics.fr/fr/dac-diy/audiophonics-raspdac-kit-diy-lecteur-reseau-raspberry-pi-20-dac-sabre-p-10384.html) :D

kolossos4730
2015-11-17, 10:16
[OT] What about this dac? It's better than hifiberry? What do you think?

I do have the HifiBerry DAC and IQAudio DAC. Both are based on the PCM5122 DAC from TI. The Audiophonics has a Sabre ES9023 DAC and a TCXO 0.5ppm which, theoretically, should produce better jitter values. My ears cannot hear any difference between them though (could be my age: 50). I do think the Audiophonics DAC has a bit better built quality, especially the RCA connectors are more sturdy.

The Audiophonics DAC does not have hardware volume control whereas the HifiBerry and IQAudio do have hardware volume control.

kolossos4730
2015-11-17, 10:19
Almost forgot about Audiophonics! May try there DAC soon.

@DJanGo: they even have a nice shopping list (http://www.audiophonics.fr/fr/dac-diy/audiophonics-raspdac-kit-diy-lecteur-reseau-raspberry-pi-20-dac-sabre-p-10384.html) :D

One thing against this kit is the slow update rate of the OLEd display. See this video (https://youtu.be/o7v0J_CfpNY) of the kit in action.

Mmmmm.... Could also be the Volumio script they are using to write to the display.

pinkdot
2015-11-17, 10:48
One thing against this kit is the slow update rate of the OLEd display. See this video (https://youtu.be/o7v0J_CfpNY) of the kit in action.

Mmmmm.... Could also be the Volumio script they are using to write to the display.
And the €200! for a nice alu case with a power button (don't know if the display will work with picoreplayer/jivelite). Although it is a nice set to have, I'll start with just the dac ;)

kolossos4730
2015-11-17, 10:52
And the €200! for a nice alu case with a power button (don't know if the display will work with picoreplayer/jivelite). Although it is a nice set to have, I'll start with just the dac ;)

Don't forget to add the cost of a power supply if you don't already have one!

[Dutch mode on]

Ik kan via PM eventueel een lijst geven van een wat ik op dit moment heb draaien en al twee keer heb gebouwd voor vrienden.

[Dutch mode off]

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Man in a van
2015-11-17, 11:18
[Dutch mode on]

Ik kan via PM eventueel een lijst geven van een wat ik op dit moment heb draaien en al twee keer heb gebouwd voor vrienden.

[Dutch mode off]




Why not share with the community, it may help those who want to do similar but lack the knowledge/resolve wherewithal to start.
AUB
Ronnie

wortgefecht
2015-11-17, 12:22
@DJanGo: they even have a nice shopping list (http://www.audiophonics.fr/fr/dac-diy/audiophonics-raspdac-kit-diy-lecteur-reseau-raspberry-pi-20-dac-sabre-p-10384.html) :D

That's looking nice, I have to check it out. Unfortunately, the case is a bit to small for my purpose, a hard drive won't fit.

HB64
2015-11-17, 13:26
Why not share with the community, it may help those who want to do similar but lack the knowledge/resolve wherewithal to start.
AUB
Ronnie
It's about what he has build for other people nothing more nothing less.

DJanGo
2015-11-17, 15:32
@DJanGo: they even have a nice shopping list (http://www.audiophonics.fr/fr/dac-diy/audiophonics-raspdac-kit-diy-lecteur-reseau-raspberry-pi-20-dac-sabre-p-10384.html) :D

:( 199$ Way too cheap for me and that display is 16*2 - i dont have such long artistnames .....
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wait is this the complete stuff - or just the case?
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That's looking nice, I have to check it out. Unfortunately, the case is a bit to small for my purpose, a hard drive won't fit.

A Player (or i am in the wrong Fred) with a harddrive ? - wait i have something like that already my Ipod 2nd Generation with firewire...



Mmmmm.... Could also be the Volumio script they are using to write to the display.
@kolossos4730: yapp seems the didnt clear the lines before adding new chars to it.

Man in a van
2015-11-17, 15:40
It's about what he has build for other people nothing more nothing less.


I know, but it may still help others start down that road themselves.

ronnie

kolossos4730
2015-11-18, 02:30
Why not share with the community, it may help those who want to do similar but lack the knowledge/resolve wherewithal to start.
AUB
Ronnie

Ronnie,

It really is no more than a list with product links to a few Dutch websites. I'm not sure if this is relevant for users from other countries.

Regards,

Arie

pinkdot
2015-11-18, 05:04
@kolossos4730 all information is welcome. But to be honest, I doubt I will end up with a 5" or 7" touch screen. A nice case and a good power supply for the RPi is more likely. Let's say, more of the AudioPhonics approche ;-)

Jeff07971
2015-11-18, 05:18
Hi Jeff I see from your sig you have a Dac + Pro - what do you think of the performance / sound compared to the Squeezers ?

Yes, Also that is the DAC+ Pro in the picture.

I havent listened to it a large amount (its a development mule) but I think the DAC+ and DAC+ Pro sound every bit as good as the Receiver or SB3

But the newest drivers for the low jitter clocks are not yet available in PiCorePlayer so may improve sound quality

kolossos4730
2015-11-18, 07:02
Interesting alternative for the Raspberry Pi (albeit more expensive): UP - Intel x5-Z8300 board in a Raspberry Pi2 form factor (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/802007522/up-intel-x5-z8300-board-in-a-raspberry-pi2-form-fa/description)

Raspberry Pi GPIO compatible according to the developers.

Man in a van
2015-11-18, 08:10
Ronnie,

It really is no more than a list with product links to a few Dutch websites. I'm not sure if this is relevant for users from other countries.

Regards,

Arie


Oh that's a shame Arie.

You saying you have built a few for some friends, I thought you might have lots of tips and tricks to encourage a few of the fence sitters.

Any "how to" and snaps are always useful on here (as you have been finding out, I guess).

I used to work quite a bit in the old "flatland". Hope things are well, over with you.

Ronnie.

Man in a van
2015-11-18, 08:14
Interesting alternative for the Raspberry Pi (albeit more expensive): UP - Intel x5-Z8300 board in a Raspberry Pi2 form factor (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/802007522/up-intel-x5-z8300-board-in-a-raspberry-pi2-form-fa/description)

Raspberry Pi GPIO compatible according to the developers.

That interesting, where do find all this stuff?

kolossos4730
2015-11-18, 08:52
@kolossos4730 all information is welcome. But to be honest, I doubt I will end up with a 5" or 7" touch screen. A nice case and a good power supply for the RPi is more likely. Let's say, more of the AudioPhonics approche ;-)

No problem. That's the nice thing about a Raspberry Pi based solution: everybody can build one according to their own personal preference.

I thought about the Audophonics kit, which represents decent value for money in my opinion, but decided against it and went for a piCorePlayer/Official 7" display/Jivelite solution. The OLED display is too small to be readable from a distance of a few meters.

kolossos4730
2015-11-18, 08:54
That interesting, where do find all this stuff?

Ronnie,

This was featured as a news article on tweakers.net; a Dutch technology website.

kolossos4730
2015-11-18, 09:03
Oh that's a shame Arie.

You saying you have built a few for some friends, I thought you might have lots of tips and tricks to encourage a few of the fence sitters.

Any "how to" and snaps are always useful on here (as you have been finding out, I guess).

I used to work quite a bit in the old "flatland". Hope things are well, over with you.

Ronnie.

Ronnie,

I do have some tips and tricks but these are specific to my build. These involve the FLIRC adapter I use, how to sent a Wake-On-LAN command from piCorePlayer so my LMS server powers up when I boot piCore, issues with JiveLite and their solutions and tinkering with other VU meter skins. I already posted these solutions in other threads, but I can post them here as well if there is interest.

I am no Linux wizard so most of it was trial and error and a bit of Google :D

wortgefecht
2015-11-18, 10:00
A Player (or i am in the wrong Fred) with a harddrive ? - wait i have something like that already my Ipod 2nd Generation with firewire..

I stated earlier in this thread, that I am building a player/LMS server device.

DJanGo
2015-11-18, 10:36
I stated earlier in this thread, that I am building a player/LMS server device...some would say you are an threadhijacker?

jstraw
2015-11-18, 21:25
I've located the original files for the vintage meters and the upshot is that it's going to be easier for me to build something from scratch than to scale those old files up.

I'll do this, but please be patient with me. I'm very gratified that people are fond of those meters. The new ones will not be identical. They will be very similar and I hope you can trust me to make them better than the last ones.

Some questions:

I definitely want to replace the words "Squeezebox Touch" with something that's not product-specific. I'm open to suggestions. It wouldn't be too hard to make more than one version of text...and dark and light versions.

I'd like to future proof these by making them easy to scale down from the largest likely display. What size should I shoot for, 10" displays? What are the pixel dimensions for that size?

Lastly, and please understand that this is not intended as extortion because I will make the new version regardless. Is there anyone here that enjoys building these contraptions enough to make me one if I either pay for or purchase and provide the hardware? Seriously, only if someone enjoys making them...

DJanGo
2015-11-19, 01:54
Some questions:
Hi please make your own Thread for that...

AFAIK this is the 2nd attept from the TO cause the 1st one was already spammed with other thin(g/k)s like that.

btw.
I would not do that with bitmaps!
To compose things like that - use .eps or .dfx - then you can scale them without losing quality and since VU Meters are just some filled curves with a textfont it shouldnt be complicated.

pkfox
2015-11-19, 02:22
I've located the original files for the vintage meters and the upshot is that it's going to be easier for me to build something from scratch than to scale those old files up.

I'll do this, but please be patient with me. I'm very gratified that people are fond of those meters. The new ones will not be identical. They will be very similar and I hope you can trust me to make them better than the last ones.

Some questions:

I definitely want to replace the words "Squeezebox Touch" with something that's not product-specific. I'm open to suggestions. It wouldn't be too hard to make more than one version of text...and dark and light versions.

I'd like to future proof these by making them easy to scale down from the largest likely display. What size should I shoot for, 10" displays? What are the pixel dimensions for that size?

Lastly, and please understand that this is not intended as extortion because I will make the new version regardless. Is there anyone here that enjoys building these contraptions enough to make me one if I either pay for or purchase and provide the hardware? Seriously, only if someone enjoys making them...

Hi there, I created this thread because of threaddrift on the original, please create a new thread.

kingswindsor
2015-11-19, 15:05
Without much hassle at all I've got the following bits working together nicely.
- Pi 7" screen
- RPi 2
- IQaudio DAC+
- IQaudio AMP+
- 2 x 3" full-range speakers
- 19v power supply

For expediency I used the max2play software (the version with the 7" screen and Jivelite capability built in) which allowed all the necessary configuration to be done via the web-interface. I was surprised how easily all the hardware and software came together and just worked! Rather than the separate IQaudio DAC+ and AMP+, an alternative is to use the IQaudio Digiamp+ and save a bit of space and some cash.

Next steps: I prefer PiCoreplayer and will configure that to do much the same with a Jivelite interface when I have more time. And I need to build the speakers into a decent speaker cabinet and mount the screen on the top.

Man in a van
2015-11-20, 02:48
Without much hassle at all I've got the following bits working together nicely.
- Pi 7" screen
- RPi 2
- IQaudio DAC+
- IQaudio AMP+
- 2 x 3" full-range speakers
- 19v power supply

For expediency I used the max2play software (the version with the 7" screen and Jivelite capability built in) which allowed all the necessary configuration to be done via the web-interface. I was surprised how easily all the hardware and software came together and just worked! Rather than the separate IQaudio DAC+ and AMP+, an alternative is to use the IQaudio Digiamp+ and save a bit of space and some cash.

Next steps: I prefer PiCoreplayer and will configure that to do much the same with a Jivelite interface when I have more time. And I need to build the speakers into a decent speaker cabinet and mount the screen on the top.


Sire, prithee, hast thou snapshots to share and speaker details?

your grovelling subject thanks thee. (tips cap)

utgg
2015-11-26, 01:20
May be not the best pi player but certainly the cheapest and smallest option: this £12 dac: https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/phat-dac?utm_source=Shopify&utm_campaign=7bf10bd465-Pi_Zero11_25_2015&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_3772e11665-7bf10bd465-83749289&mc_cid=7bf10bd465&mc_eid=8a3ad8e47d plus the new RaspberryPi Zero for £4 and a usb wifi dongle (via a micro usb adapter). About £25.

The DAC looks like it might be a decent low-cost option for a regular pi too...

hopeful
2015-11-26, 02:42
I was thinking of using the 10.1" screen kit from Kano.

http://uk.kano.me/products/screen-kit

Colin

Jeff07971
2015-11-26, 03:51
May be not the best pi player but certainly the cheapest and smallest option: this £12 dac: https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/phat-dac?utm_source=Shopify&utm_campaign=7bf10bd465-Pi_Zero11_25_2015&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_3772e11665-7bf10bd465-83749289&mc_cid=7bf10bd465&mc_eid=8a3ad8e47d plus the new RaspberryPi Zero for £4 and a usb wifi dongle (via a micro usb adapter). About £25.

The DAC looks like it might be a decent low-cost option for a regular pi too...

Was looking at the zero but a problem come to mind, how would you set up the wifi without another Pi ? :(

kingswindsor
2015-11-26, 14:44
Sire, prithee, hast thou snapshots to share and speaker details?

your grovelling subject thanks thee. (tips cap)

Here are some photos of the boards and speakers. The speakers I went for were the Peerless Vifa NE95W-04 Full Range Speakers which I got from https://www.falconacoustics.co.uk/ I chose them on spec without having had a chance to listen to them and I have still to build them into a cabinet to assess them properly. However I did do a lash up with a £4.99 Maplin speaker and there was a considerable difference!

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I have built the hardware into a cardboard box to see how it might all fit together before I start making a proper cabinet. I have had some issues with the wi-fi connection. Not sure if this is because of the proximity of the speakers or 19v supply or being shielded by the screen itself but it is much better if I hang the wifi transmitter out on the end of a USB extension cable.

I've also tried out both the Max2play and Picoreplayer software. Both have Jivelite built in, work from the touch-screen and are easy to configure from a web-interface but I'm not sure which to prefer yet. I've had some issues which wouldn't be fair to blame on the software because they may have been due to (e.g.) my wifi signal interference. Will report back when I have formed some clearer opinion.

utgg
2015-11-26, 15:43
Was looking at the zero but a problem come to mind, how would you set up the wifi without another Pi ? :(

For piCorePlayer, same as model A+. Either boot up with display and keyboard attached to set up wifi, or edit config file on the sdcard on your pc. Instructions on piCorePlayer site https://sites.google.com/site/picoreplayer/home/how-to-1

Man in a van
2015-11-27, 05:28
Here are some photos of the boards and speakers. The speakers I went for were the Peerless Vifa NE95W-04 Full Range Speakers which I got from https://www.falconacoustics.co.uk/ I chose them on spec without having had a chance to listen to them and I have still to build them into a cabinet to assess them properly. However I did do a lash up with a £4.99 Maplin speaker and there was a considerable difference!

19333193321933419335

I have built the hardware into a cardboard box to see how it might all fit together before I start making a proper cabinet. I have had some issues with the wi-fi connection. Not sure if this is because of the proximity of the speakers or 19v supply or being shielded by the screen itself but it is much better if I hang the wifi transmitter out on the end of a USB extension cable.

I've also tried out both the Max2play and Picoreplayer software. Both have Jivelite built in, work from the touch-screen and are easy to configure from a web-interface but I'm not sure which to prefer yet. I've had some issues which wouldn't be fair to blame on the software because they may have been due to (e.g.) my wifi signal interference. Will report back when I have formed some clearer opinion.

Nice! thanks very much. what about open baffle for the speakers to start with.

A new thread when you wish to update might be a good idea;)

(the thread-drift police will be along soon:p)

ronnie

Just realised it's already a separate thread:o

treble
2016-03-13, 16:46
I was wondering how you connected the pins from the Touchscreen to the Extension Header. Do you need to solder some pins on the DAC first? Thanks!


Yes the Hifiberry DAC is usable, I have powered the display from the extention header on the DAC+ Pro (Shown here) all the DAC's from Hifiberry are the same as regards critical parts.

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Jeff07971
2016-03-14, 02:09
I was wondering how you connected the pins from the Touchscreen to the Extension Header. Do you need to solder some pins on the DAC first? Thanks!

Hi Treble,

Yeah I fired up the hotstick and soldered some header pins to the DAC+

Jeff