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pkfox
2015-11-11, 05:17
I'm currently looking at the market for a streamer that can replace my TransPorter ( shudder ) when the day arrives for it's funeral - one of the players I've read about is a Cambridge CXN - anyone have any knowledge on this ? looks pretty neat and understated and most importantly it comes in black :-)

d6jg
2015-11-11, 14:55
Stick with LMS.
Raspberry Pi plus HifiBerry DAC+or Digi + if you prefer. Decent case. Load piCorePlayer - see under Linux. 20 minutes to put it all together and get it streaming. Ok a bit longer if you haven't done it before but not very long.
About 80 in total but fully capable of 24/192 streaming. You'll be surprised how good it is.

pkfox
2015-11-11, 15:10
Stick with LMS.
Raspberry Pi plus HifiBerry DAC+or Digi + if you prefer. Decent case. Load piCorePlayer - see under Linux. 20 minutes to put it all together and get it streaming. Ok a bit longer if you haven't done it before but not very long.
About 80 in total but fully capable of 24/192 streaming. You'll be surprised how good it is.

Interesting , my current setup is a Pi version 2 as the server and an external drive as storage - works very well ( much better and quieter than my old setup with a ReadyNas ) - so are you saying the HifiBerry DAC is as good as the Transporter ?

Edit

Can you give me a link to the Linux article ? Thanks.

d6jg
2015-11-11, 15:33
I haven't got a Transporter to compare it too but others have said it compares well. It certainly compares very well to my Touch & SB3 with my (newly documented) FLAC collection.

If you have a separate DAC or amp with digital input then the Digi + may suit you better.

Either way at 80 what have you got to lose? As you probably know you can get a "black case" or any other colour for that matter.

Take a look at HifiBerry's web site.
I like piCorePlayer because the whole thing loads into RAM and therefore can't (or shouldn't) get corrupted by power outages. See under Linux / Unix - it has its own thread.

Greg Erskine
2015-11-11, 16:06
I haven't got a Transporter to compare it too but others have said it compares well. It certainly compares very well to my Touch & SB3 with my (newly documented) FLAC collection.

If you have a separate DAC or amp with digital input then the Digi + may suit you better.

Either way at 80 what have you got to lose? As you probably know you can get a "black case" or any other colour for that matter.

Take a look at HifiBerry's web site.
I like piCorePlayer because the whole thing loads into RAM and therefore can't (or shouldn't) get corrupted by power outages. See under Linux / Unix - it has its own thread.

Hi d6jg and pkfox,

I agree, if you like DIY'ing then the Raspberry Pi is worth experimenting with. I was able to find some RPiB's for $12 on ebay add a $20 DAC and the results are far better than I could have imagined.

I do have a Transporter, Touch, Duet and SB3 and use my RPi's 99% of the time. Without doing a DBT, I would put the RPi's very close to the Touch. I do believe that an "audiophile" version of the RPi could be developed to be as good as a Transporter.

This is all very subjective, I could be biased because I help Steen with piCorePlayer!

d6jp, I have made hundreds of piCorePlayer SD cards and can't remember ever corrupting one, even piCore images for that matter. I have made experimental versions of piCorePlayer that I can unmount and remove the SD card altogether.

regards
Greg

d6jg
2015-11-11, 16:24
I have never had to re-image a piCorePlayer (except when you temporarily broke the upgrade) but I can recall re-imaging Raspbian loads of times while I was experimenting with XBMC (Kodi).

adamdea
2015-11-12, 03:20
Interesting , my current setup is a Pi version 2 as the server and an external drive as storage - works very well ( much better and quieter than my old setup with a ReadyNas ) - so are you saying the HifiBerry DAC is as good as the Transporter ?

Edit

Can you give me a link to the Linux article ? Thanks.
You can also set up a pi using max2play from a ready-made image. If you wanted you could use the same pi2 as you use as server. You could probably also set of squeezelite yourself using localplayer from your existing LMS depending on version.

The big picture point is that you don't need to have a fancy streamer; you can use any old streamer and the dac of your choice. There are a few compatiblity issues with usb out from a pi to some dacs, but this can be worked around. If you like using lms I would stick with it as server and then iether go for a pi with a dac board (there are several sorts) or pi plus an ordinary outboard dac of your choice. One thing I would not do it buy into some manufacturers inferior software which you are stuck with if you get their streamer

That said alot of people seem to like auralic.

cliveb
2015-11-12, 10:00
Interesting , my current setup is a Pi version 2 as the server and an external drive as storage - works very well ( much better and quieter than my old setup with a ReadyNas ) - so are you saying the HifiBerry DAC is as good as the Transporter ?
One thing you won't get with the HiFiBerry DAC that you have on the TP is balanced analogue outputs.
I don't know whether that may be important to you. If it is, consider a Pi with DIGI+ feeding a DAC with balanced outputs.

Pascal Hibon
2015-11-12, 12:04
I'm currently looking at the market for a streamer that can replace my TransPorter ( shudder ) when the day arrives for it's funeral - one of the players I've read about is a Cambridge CXN - anyone have any knowledge on this ? looks pretty neat and understated and most importantly it comes in black :-)

As others have mentioned, stick with SB's (in some form or another, such as RPI's, Wandboard's, etc). The Squeezebox is system is light years ahead of other streamer technology, even today. It has unmatched user experience which is priceless. I have tried Sonos in the past but I sold after one month; it is no match for Squeezebox. Also stay away as far as possible from DLNA setups. It's junk! The Cambridge is a nice device but unfortunately it's using DLNA.
With an RPI you could even use the 7" touch screen. It is an SB Touch on steroids :-) http://thepihut.com/collections/new-products/products/official-raspberry-pi-7-touchscreen-display

sbp
2015-11-12, 12:35
As others have mentioned, stick with SB's (in some form or another, such as RPI's, Wandboard's, etc). The Squeezebox is system is light years ahead of other streamer technology, even today. It has unmatched user experience which is priceless. I have tried Sonos in the past but I sold after one month; it is no match for Squeezebox. Also stay away as far as possible from DLNA setups. It's junk! The Cambridge is a nice device but unfortunately it's using DLNA.
With an RPI you could even use the 7" touch screen. It is an SB Touch on steroids :-) http://thepihut.com/collections/new-products/products/official-raspberry-pi-7-touchscreen-display

If you are interested in seeing how piCorePlayer with touch screen support and the new 7" screen is performing have a look at this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WP3q1-ywD-0

Steen

Pascal Hibon
2015-11-12, 12:46
If you are interested in seeing how piCorePlayer with touch screen support and the new 7" screen is performing have a look at this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WP3q1-ywD-0

Steen

Yes I'm so temped to buy the display.
But I would like to use the custom vintage vu meters from jstraw. http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?77125-A-Photo-of-your-Touch-setup-Please!&p=824755&viewfull=1#post824755

These look awesome and so much nicer than the original Logitech vu meters. I read in multiple threads that it is not possible to install those custom vu meters. But I'm sure there must be a way to replace the Logitech vu images by jstraw's vu images (?)

ralphy
2015-11-13, 05:46
Yes I'm so temped to buy the display.
But I would like to use the custom vintage vu meters from jstraw. http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?77125-A-Photo-of-your-Touch-setup-Please!&p=824755&viewfull=1#post824755

These look awesome and so much nicer than the original Logitech vu meters. I read in multiple threads that it is not possible to install those custom vu meters. But I'm sure there must be a way to replace the Logitech vu images by jstraw's vu images (?)

The VU images are all stored in one file that can be replaced with the VU images you prefer. The problem with picoreplayer is the jivelite install is read only. At the moment you would have to unsquash the tcz image replace the file and squash it again. Pretty simple if you're comfortable using linux.

19194

19195

Install the squashfs-tools tools.

For debian based distro

sudo apt-get install squashfs-tools

Become root

sudo bash

Extract the filesystem

unsquashfs jivelite_touch.tcz

Replace squashfs-root/opt/jivelite/share/jive/applets/JogglerSkin/images/UNOFFICIAL/VUMeter/vu_analog_25seq_w.png with the jstraw image. Make sure you use the same filename.

Delete the original tcz

rm jivelite_touch.tcz

Recreate the tcz.

mksquashfs squashfs-root jivelite_touch.tcz -all-root

Create a new md5 checksum file.

md5sum jivelite_touch.tcz > jivelite_touch.tcz.md5.txt

Copy the new jivelite_touch.tcz and jivelite_touch.tcz.md5.txt files back to picoreplayer image replacing the original.

Pascal Hibon
2015-11-13, 06:05
The VU images are all stored in one file that can be replaced with the VU images you prefer. The problem with picoreplayer is the jivelite install is read only. At the moment you would have to unsquash the tcz image replace the file and squash it again. Pretty simple if you're comfortable using linux.

19194

19195

Install the squashfs-tools tools.

For debian based distro

sudo apt-get install squashfs-tools

Become root

sudo bash

Extract the filesystem

unsquashfs jivelite_touch.tcz

Replace squashfs-root/opt/jivelite/share/jive/applets/JogglerSkin/images/UNOFFICIAL/VUMeter/vu_analog_25seq_w.png with the jstraw image. Make sure you use the same filename.

Delete the original tcz

rm jivelite_touch.tcz

Recreate the tcz.

mksquashfs squashfs-root jivelite_touch.tcz -all-root

Create a new md5 checksum file.

md5sum jivelite_touch.tcz > jivelite_touch.tcz.md5.txt

Copy the new jivelite_touch.tcz and jivelite_touch.tcz.md5.txt files back to picoreplayer image replacing the original.

Thanks for the detailed explanation Ralphy!
I'm not a Linux expert but with the above I should be able to manage.

Question: is the vu image still the same resolution as the original Touch? I have jstraw's images and I could just replace the Logitech ones but I'm asking because the 7" display probably has a different resolution. And that might affect how the vu images are displayed.

Only thing to do now is to buy the display and try :-)

kolossos4730
2015-11-13, 06:26
Thanks for the detailed explanation Ralphy!
I'm not a Linux expert but with the above I should be able to manage.

Question: is the vu image still the same resolution as the original Touch? I have jstraw's images and I could just replace the Logitech ones but I'm asking because the 7" display probably has a different resolution. And that might affect how the vu images are displayed.

Only thing to do now is to buy the display and try :-)

Pascal,

You need to resize the original jstraw .png file to exactly 10000 x 453 pixels. Then everything lines up OK. Picture attached is of the Joggler skin in SqueezePlay for Windows with the vu_analog_25seq_w.png file replaced.

Only thing which could be improved upon is if we had a higher resolution source file to begin with so we could scale down instead of up and retain a clearer/sharper VU meter.

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Pascal Hibon
2015-11-13, 09:13
Pascal,

You need to resize the original jstraw .png file to exactly 10000 x 453 pixels. Then everything lines up OK. Picture attached is of the Joggler skin in SqueezePlay for Windows with the vu_analog_25seq_w.png file replaced.

Only thing which could be improved upon is if we had a higher resolution source file to begin with so we could scale down instead of up and retain a clearer/sharper VU meter.



Wauw, that looks great Kolossos4730 !!!!
I have send jstraw a PM and asked him if he could make higher resolution images available. Let's see what happens.

doctor_big
2015-11-13, 10:27
So with this touchscreen and a pi 2,all I would need is picoreplayer? And it would emulate a SB Touch?

It can't be that simple... Can it?

Jason

Sent from my SM-N910W8 using Tapatalk

Pascal Hibon
2015-11-13, 10:33
So with this touchscreen and a pi 2,all I would need is picoreplayer? And it would emulate a SB Touch?

It can't be that simple... Can it?


Yes it is that easy !

pkfox
2015-11-13, 10:47
If you are interested in seeing how piCorePlayer with touch screen support and the new 7" screen is performing have a look at this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WP3q1-ywD-0

Steen

That looks amazing ! are there any tutorials anywhere that outline how to make one of these ? just as a diy project it would be fun

bpa
2015-11-13, 11:16
That looks amazing ! are there any tutorials anywhere that outline how to make one of these ? just as a diy project it would be fun

This is for use with max2play s/w but pico should be similar

http://www.instructables.com/id/High-End-Sound-with-7-Inch-Touchscreen-Control-Bas/

sbp
2015-11-13, 12:29
Thanks for the detailed explanation Ralphy!
I'm not a Linux expert but with the above I should be able to manage.

Question: is the vu image still the same resolution as the original Touch? I have jstraw's images and I could just replace the Logitech ones but I'm asking because the 7" display probably has a different resolution. And that might affect how the vu images are displayed.

Only thing to do now is to buy the display and try :-)

Hi, where Can i find the jstraw images? Or Can you send Them to me?

steen

johtem
2015-11-13, 12:44
19196

Hello, were can i find these nice vu meters? Cannot find it in the Patch Installer menu of my SB Touch.

Pascal Hibon
2015-11-13, 12:54
Hi, where Can i find the jstraw images? Or Can you send Them to me?

steen

This is from jstraw's repository:

Vintage VU meter :
http://www.smallproblem.com/touchmeter/VintageVUMeter-1.0.zip

Dark vintage VU meters:
http://www.smallproblem.com/touchmeter/DarkMeter-1.0.zip

http://www.smallproblem.com/touchmeter/DarkMeter2-1.0.zip


I use (and prefer) the DarkMeter-1.0. This is also the version as shown in the picture provided by Kolossos4730

pkfox
2015-11-14, 04:40
Hello, were can i find these nice vu meters? Cannot find it in the Patch Installer menu of my SB Touch.

V nice is there a way to show these on a Transporter ?

ralphy
2015-11-14, 05:01
Thanks for the detailed explanation Ralphy!
I'm not a Linux expert but with the above I should be able to manage.

Question: is the vu image still the same resolution as the original Touch? I have jstraw's images and I could just replace the Logitech ones but I'm asking because the 7" display probably has a different resolution. And that might affect how the vu images are displayed.

Only thing to do now is to buy the display and try :-)

I added the original size in my post above by mistake.

The resized image for the Joggler skin is available here (https://github.com/ralph-irving/jivelite/raw/37e6ef87c63447e37a73f7b6b629373a395c3160/share/jive/applets/JogglerSkin/images/UNOFFICIAL/VUMeter/vu_analog_25seq_j.png)

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ralphy
2015-11-14, 06:16
That looks amazing ! are there any tutorials anywhere that outline how to make one of these ? just as a diy project it would be fun

Adding the RPi 7" screen to the RPi.

http://www.element14.com/community/docs/DOC-78156/l/raspberry-pi-7-touchscreen-display

Here are the instructions for the case in the youtube video.

http://www.modmypi.com/blog/assembly-instructions/raspberry-pi-7-touch-sreen-display-case-assembly-instructions

pkfox
2015-11-14, 07:10
Adding the RPi 7" screen to the RPi.

http://www.element14.com/community/docs/DOC-78156/l/raspberry-pi-7-touchscreen-display

Here are the instructions for the case in the youtube video.

http://www.modmypi.com/blog/assembly-instructions/raspberry-pi-7-touch-sreen-display-case-assembly-instructions

Thanks Ralphy is there such an instructable to build a complete player - from software installation to plugging it in ?

tcutting
2015-11-14, 10:00
I would like to figure out a way to add the CustomClock applet to JiveLite - that would allow additional custom screens to be used with JiveLite (and the RPi with TouchScreen using PiCorePlayer and Jivelite). I have an RPI currently running squeezelite and jivelite (currently using SOA), with an ADAFruit display (no touch) which I think is the same resolution as the official RPI display - it's almost a touch, but what I miss the most is the CustomClock screensavers (for example, the custom SuperDateTime screens).
It would be GREAT if erland could port the customclock applet to work with Jivelite!

sbp
2015-11-14, 12:45
Thanks Ralphy is there such an instructable to build a complete player - from software installation to plugging it in ?

If you want to try piCorePlayer it really is very simple. Burn the sd-card with the piCorePlayer image, then boot and you will have a working solution out of the box.

It is possible to tweak it in various ways, and you can add wifi adaptor, a dac and a screen. All these additions can be manipulated via a web browser from another computer. Please visit our web pages where there is a "how to "

steen

ralphy
2015-11-14, 17:22
The VU images are all stored in one file that can be replaced with the VU images you prefer. The problem with picoreplayer is the jivelite install is read only. At the moment you would have to unsquash the tcz image replace the file and squash it again. Pretty simple if you're comfortable using linux.

19194

19195

Install the squashfs-tools tools.

For debian based distro

sudo apt-get install squashfs-tools

Become root

sudo bash

Extract the filesystem

unsquashfs jivelite_touch.tcz

Replace squashfs-root/opt/jivelite/share/jive/applets/JogglerSkin/images/UNOFFICIAL/VUMeter/vu_analog_25seq_w.png with the jstraw image. Make sure you use the same filename.

Delete the original tcz

rm jivelite_touch.tcz

Recreate the tcz.

mksquashfs squashfs-root jivelite_touch.tcz -all-root

Create a new md5 checksum file.

md5sum jivelite_touch.tcz > jivelite_touch.tcz.md5.txt

Copy the new jivelite_touch.tcz and jivelite_touch.tcz.md5.txt files back to picoreplayer image replacing the original.
I just discovered a MUCH easier way to change the VU meters.

ssh to picoreplayer

sudo mkdir -p /home/tc/.jivelite/userpath/applets/JogglerSkin/images/UNOFFICIAL/VUMeter

As root copy a 10000x453 VU meter png file of your choice to /home/tc/.jivelite/userpath/applets/JogglerSkin/images/UNOFFICIAL/VUMeter/vu_analog_25seq_w.png

Save your config from the web gui or sudo filetool.sh -b

Reboot

If you don't like the new VU meter delete the folder

sudo rm -rf /home/tc/.jivelite/userpath/applets/JogglerSkin

Save your config again and reboot.

ralphy
2015-11-14, 19:27
I would like to figure out a way to add the CustomClock applet to JiveLite - that would allow additional custom screens to be used with JiveLite (and the RPi with TouchScreen using PiCorePlayer and Jivelite). I have an RPI currently running squeezelite and jivelite (currently using SOA), with an ADAFruit display (no touch) which I think is the same resolution as the official RPI display - it's almost a touch, but what I miss the most is the CustomClock screensavers (for example, the custom SuperDateTime screens).
It would be GREAT if erland could port the customclock applet to work with Jivelite!

You can install applets in a directory under /home/tc/.jivelite/userpath/applets in picoreplayer.

SOA should be the same you just need to find the $HOME/.jivelite/userpath/applets directory

For example I have an alsamixer applet that I use with pcp and it's installed in /home/tc/.jivelite/userpath/applets/AMixer. You can use the Applet Installer too if you setup a repo.xml and add it to lms. You also need to add minTarget="0.1" to the applet name xml tag for it to show up in jivelite.

Triode chose to use luajit for jivelite which is fast but doesn't support all the addtional lua language extensions added to the lua slimdevices/logitech used for squeezeplay/touch/radio/control. My jivelite build for picoreplayer uses the same lua as squeezeplay and should run custom clock. I had to add the bitop lua language extension to be able to run Triode's modified lua applets with the original logitech lua.

Custom clock might need to be modified to run with lua-jit.

pkfox
2015-11-15, 05:30
If you want to try piCorePlayer it really is very simple. Burn the sd-card with the piCorePlayer image, then boot and you will have a working solution out of the box.

It is possible to tweak it in various ways, and you can add wifi adaptor, a dac and a screen. All these additions can be manipulated via a web browser from another computer. Please visit our web pages where there is a "how to "

steen

Thanks for your time, I'm basically trying to put together a shopping list to build the best quality player I can using the Pi as the base - here is my first pass at a shopping list

1) Pi version 2
2) 7" touch screen
3) Screen case
3) Dac pro sound card
4) piCorePlayer

anything you can comment on please do

d6jg
2015-11-15, 09:46
Who makes the "dac pro sound card" ? A link would be useful

Jeff07971
2015-11-15, 15:40
Who makes the "dac pro sound card" ? A link would be useful

I suspect he means the Hifiberry DAC+ Pro

https://www.hifiberry.com/product/hifiberry-dac-pro/

pkfox
2015-11-15, 23:35
I suspect he means the Hifiberry DAC+ Pro

https://www.hifiberry.com/product/hifiberry-dac-pro/

I do indeed

sbp
2015-11-16, 00:05
I do indeed

Hi.
There are several DAC options for you to choose from - also it depends whether you want optical out, analog out or an integrated amplifier.

http://www.iqaudio.co.uk/
http://www.audiophonics.fr/en/kits-modules-diy-dac/audiophonics-i-sabre-dac-es9023-v2-tcxo-raspberry-pi-20-a-b-i2s-p-10176.html
https://www.hifiberry.com/product/hifiberry-dac-pro/

And probably many more.
Steen

Wirrunna
2015-11-16, 00:06
Some more reading - https://volumio.org/raspberry-pi-i2s-dac-sounds-so-good/

I just ordered one of these - http://www.ebay.com/itm/I2S-HiFi-DAC-ES9023-Expansion-Board-Decode-Board-Encoder-for-Raspberry-pi-B/181694631154?_trksid=p2046732.c100040.m2060&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1% 26asc%3D20140107095009%26meid%3D8afc1dc2c47042e8b8 0cf71687e2354b%26pid%3D100040%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D4%2 6sd%3D271956150960
as the postage to Australia for the original - http://www.audiophonics.fr/fr/dac-diy/audiophonics-i-sabre-dac-es9023-raspberry-pi-a-b-20-i2s-p-9341.html - doubled the price.

Also, thank you for the LMSDocumenter.

pkfox
2015-11-16, 01:23
Hi.
There are several DAC options for you to choose from - also it depends whether you want optical out, analog out or an integrated amplifier.

http://www.iqaudio.co.uk/
http://www.audiophonics.fr/en/kits-modules-diy-dac/audiophonics-i-sabre-dac-es9023-v2-tcxo-raspberry-pi-20-a-b-i2s-p-10176.html
https://www.hifiberry.com/product/hifiberry-dac-pro/

And probably many more.
Steen

I just want analogue for now but both would be better for future proofing I suppose

pkfox
2015-11-16, 02:04
Some more reading - https://volumio.org/raspberry-pi-i2s-dac-sounds-so-good/

I just ordered one of these - http://www.ebay.com/itm/I2S-HiFi-DAC-ES9023-Expansion-Board-Decode-Board-Encoder-for-Raspberry-pi-B/181694631154?_trksid=p2046732.c100040.m2060&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1% 26asc%3D20140107095009%26meid%3D8afc1dc2c47042e8b8 0cf71687e2354b%26pid%3D100040%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D4%2 6sd%3D271956150960
as the postage to Australia for the original - http://www.audiophonics.fr/fr/dac-diy/audiophonics-i-sabre-dac-es9023-raspberry-pi-a-b-20-i2s-p-9341.html - doubled the price.

Also, thank you for the LMSDocumenter.

Glad you find it useful - I had a look at what you've ordered and I would be interested to know how it performs as it is ridiculously cheap compared to most offerings

kolossos4730
2015-11-16, 03:20
Thanks for your time, I'm basically trying to put together a shopping list to build the best quality player I can using the Pi as the base - here is my first pass at a shopping list

1) Pi version 2
2) 7" touch screen
3) Screen case
3) Dac pro sound card
4) piCorePlayer

anything you can comment on please do

Don't forget a reliable 2A 5V power supply if you want to power both Raspberry Pi and touch screen with the same power supply. I can recommend the official Raspberry Pi power supply (https://www.raspberrypi.org/products/universal-power-supply/). My experience is that power supplies with a USB connector and a detachable USB to micro USB cable will produce an under-voltage warning. This is due to the resistance of most USB to micro USB cables (24AWG vs. 28AWG).

pkfox
2015-11-16, 03:54
Hi all, I've created a new thread for this on here http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?104628-Building-the-best-Pi-LMS-Player

jstraw
2015-11-18, 19:22
Pascal,

You need to resize the original jstraw .png file to exactly 10000 x 453 pixels. Then everything lines up OK. Picture attached is of the Joggler skin in SqueezePlay for Windows with the vu_analog_25seq_w.png file replaced.

Only thing which could be improved upon is if we had a higher resolution source file to begin with so we could scale down instead of up and retain a clearer/sharper VU meter.

19196

I'll go looking for the original files and see what this would entail. I can't promise anything right now but I'm sure it's something I can tackle...soonish, if not immediately.

I think it would probably be good for them to say something other than "Squeezebox Touch" for the sake of other devices. I'm open to suggestions.

kolossos4730
2015-11-19, 06:44
I'll go looking for the original files and see what this would entail. I can't promise anything right now but I'm sure it's something I can tackle...soonish, if not immediately.

I think it would probably be good for them to say something other than "Squeezebox Touch" for the sake of other devices. I'm open to suggestions.

jstraw,

I saw your post in the "Building the best Pi LMS Player" thread where you asked what thread is best suited for discussing your updated analog VU meters.

First of all thanks for your continued support. As these high-res VU meters are specific to JiveLite and especially the Joggler skin (which to my knowledge is the only skin still under active development) I would suggest you continue in the JiveLite (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?98156-Announce-JiveLite-cut-down-squeezebox-control-application) or JiveLite for piCorePlayer (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?103330-Jivelite-for-piCorePlayer) thread. All development on the Joggler skin, at the moment, is for the piCorePlayer's included version of JiveLite (made by Ralphy).


I definitely want to replace the words "Squeezebox Touch" with something that's not product-specific. I'm open to suggestions. It wouldn't be too hard to make more than one version of text...and dark and light versions.

I am in the process of making my first analog VU meter and am also struggling with a decent name. As a placeholder I opted for JiveLite Touch.


I'd like to future proof these by making them easy to scale down from the largest likely display. What size should I shoot for, 10" displays? What are the pixel dimensions for that size?

It's not really about the display size but about the resolution of the Joggler skin. The Joggler skin is, in my opinion, the only real successor of the original Touch interface. All other HD skins lack certain features compared to this skin. The current Joggler skin resolution is 800x480 which is why the official Raspberry Pi display (which has the same resolution) is such a good match. To be future proof you could develop your new meter in a vector based program like Illustrator/Inkscape.


Lastly, and please understand that this is not intended as extortion because I will make the new version regardless. Is there anyone here that enjoys building these contraptions enough to make me one if I either pay for or purchase and provide the hardware? Seriously, only if someone enjoys making them...

Where are you located? And what kind of contraption are you looking for?

I will post other JiveLite related stuff in the JiveLite for piCorePlayer thread.

jstraw
2015-11-19, 13:35
jstraw,

I saw your post in the "Building the best Pi LMS Player" thread where you asked what thread is best suited for discussing your updated analog VU meters.

First of all thanks for your continued support. As these high-res VU meters are specific to JiveLite and especially the Joggler skin (which to my knowledge is the only skin still under active development) I would suggest you continue in the JiveLite (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?98156-Announce-JiveLite-cut-down-squeezebox-control-application) or JiveLite for piCorePlayer (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?103330-Jivelite-for-piCorePlayer) thread. All development on the Joggler skin, at the moment, is for the piCorePlayer's included version of JiveLite (made by Ralphy).



I am in the process of making my first analog VU meter and am also struggling with a decent name. As a placeholder I opted for JiveLite Touch.



It's not really about the display size but about the resolution of the Joggler skin. The Joggler skin is, in my opinion, the only real successor of the original Touch interface. All other HD skins lack certain features compared to this skin. The current Joggler skin resolution is 800x480 which is why the official Raspberry Pi display (which has the same resolution) is such a good match. To be future proof you could develop your new meter in a vector based program like Illustrator/Inkscape.



Where are you located? And what kind of contraption are you looking for?

I will post other JiveLite related stuff in the JiveLite for piCorePlayer thread.

I'm in Kansas. I'd be interested in a 7" touchscreen contraption. If I found the right tutorial, I'd probably build one. I have no real experience with projects like this. I will be producing vector art for scalability. I'm currently using "Squeeze Meter" as a placeholder. This may seem strange but some words look really nice in that typeface and others don't.

I need to explore JiveLite. I'm still using the original Squeezeplayer on many computers.

kolossos4730
2015-11-19, 14:44
I'm in Kansas. I'd be interested in a 7" touchscreen contraption. If I found the right tutorial, I'd probably build one. I have no real experience with projects like this. I will be producing vector art for scalability. I'm currently using "Squeeze Meter" as a placeholder. This may seem strange but some words look really nice in that typeface and others don't.

I need to explore JiveLite. I'm still using the original Squeezeplayer on many computers.

Just a quick answer before I call it a day. I'm from The Netherlands so shipping a complete unit to the USA is probably not the best solution ;-)

Ralphy provides more up-to-date versions of SqueezePlay for Windows/OSX/Linux on this (https://www.mediafire.com/folder/4q8dvq20iyz9e/Builds) website. They all have the new Joggler skin included and provide a good starting point for testing new versions of your VU meters. I am using Windows and on this platform it's as easy as replacing the included .png file with a new version before starting SqueezePlay. The file to replace on Windows is:


C:\Program Files\SqueezePlay\lua\applets\JogglerSkin\images\U NOFFICIAL\VUMeter\vu_analog_25seq_w.png