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d6jg
2015-10-10, 04:43
A friend of mine - same age as me (50s) has started buying individual tracks to listen to. I had thought such behaviour was the prerogative of young un's with no perception of quality and ear buds jammed in their ears everywhere they go. Perhaps not.

I always buy albums and when I am listening seriously I always play albums in the "correct" order. I admit when I am working and music is playing in the background I do use smart mix and listen in a radio way.

What do others buy?

RonM
2015-10-10, 05:17
Albums always, exception only being on very rare occasions when I want to compare covers of particular songs. Most of my purchases are actually from sites that don't sell individual tracks. I'm not a fan of the evil iEmpire.

R

garym
2015-10-10, 05:41
Albums - 99.99999999999% Once in a while I buy a single track (examples, a theme song from a TV show*, a pop song that my wife loves from her Zumba class). I'm also still a "buy the CD person". Not because I really want the physical product anymore, but because I want lossless files and I don't typically want hi-res. I do use Spotify to audition a lot of things so I find myself not buying a few things that I would have bought in the old days.

*although even then there have been times I've gone back an purchased the album as I learned more about the artist.

dasmueller
2015-10-10, 06:18
I have never bought a single track or a complete mp3/digital album. XCDs exclusively. Like RonM I am not a fan of the iEmpire

d6jg
2015-10-10, 06:33
I am a CD buyer as well. I buy a lot second hand as like others I just then rip them to FLAC

Grumpy Bob
2015-10-10, 07:29
I buy albums. Usually flac, occasionally mp3; CDs, vinyl LPs.

Robert

Pascal Hibon
2015-10-10, 08:36
Most of the time I buy CD albums. This is a combination of new and secondhand. From time to time I buy album lossless downloads (depends on the price). And in very rare occasions I buy songs (download). When that happens it means that I really don't like the complete album.

I must admit that I would switch over to download completely if the price was right. I still find it unbelievable that some download albums are more expensive than the CD. I have sent an email to Qobuz once about this only to get a BS answer back.

reinholdk
2015-10-10, 09:37
Always buying albums as CDs to rip it to FLAC. Don't care about hi-res. Never bought a single track - except for the kids.
And there have been rare exceptions where I bought a download album when a CD release was not planned.

d6jg
2015-10-10, 09:46
I avoid downloads generally on the basis that you only purchase the right to listen to them whereas with a CD you purchase it outright. I want to leave my music collection in my will. Neither Son will probably want it but you never know.

Pascal Hibon
2015-10-10, 09:56
I avoid downloads generally on the basis that you only purchase the right to listen to them whereas with a CD you purchase it outright. I want to leave my music collection in my will. Neither Son will probably want it but you never know.

You could leave your NAS in your will. No one will check if its filled with downloaded music or ripped music :-)

DJanGo
2015-10-10, 11:31
You could leave your NAS in your will. No one will check if its filled with downloaded music or ripped music :-)

Except your Database :p
I'd like to use only my own tags and (yes i do use crappy lossyfiles) convert settings:o

I buy tracks and albums but only as hardware.
Single Tracks on Sampler's like Putumayo presents ..... or Best of one Hit Wonders.

There is a reason for everything - i remember a Maxi CD from The Clash that i only bought for the title Song "London calling".
There was also a Track called "Rock the Casbah" that i didnt like the 1.st to 50th. time listen to that CD but after the 51th. listening i didnt listen to the title Song again - the former reason why i bought that (my first The Clash CD) [long long time ago]....

w3wilkes
2015-10-11, 00:01
Almost always CD's here. I have bought the occasional track when I was looking for something specific from years gone by, like Sheila - Tommy Roe... Had to have it for a compilation I put together.

RonM
2015-10-15, 05:23
Interesting so many of the respondents here are still mainly buying CDs. The world is changing but apparently not everywhere.

I, too, sometimes buy CDs, especially if the price is right and I don't have access to a CD-quality download. This often means buying from secondary sellers on Amazon or such, including second hand (although new product is often as cheap as second hand). However, most often, I'll get an album from an online source, with many of these offering CD-quality as well as cover art and often PDFs of the liner notes. My sources include places like CDBaby, Bandcamp, the Canadian site Zunior (best prices, including excellent recent offerings by artists like Buffy Saint-Marie), label sites (e.g. Nonesuch) and various others. When pressed (and for albums where I don't particularly care about CD quality) I make use of my eMusic account, which has acceptable quality and prices half that of iTunes. In desperation I'll resort to iTunes.

I'll admit there are times when I've purchased a lossy file and gone to a pirate download for lossless. I don't feel very guilty.

I have boxes and boxes, sealed, stored in my basement, of CDs. Many never listened-to, just ripped. A pile of plastic that will become landfill one day, I'm sure.

The legal issues are not straightforward, although some here have claimed to "own" the CDs. True, but you don't own the music. You are technically speaking only allowed to listen, and perhaps make a copy for your own use. It's not really much different than a purchased download -- you can listen, make copies for yourself, but not make copies for others. While it may not be technically legal to pass on your collection to others (this isn't clear, it might be), as long as it is a single copy and others are deleted, I am absolutely certain that no one will take any official exception. So pass on your digital collection to your heirs. If properly backed up, it's probably more secure than on a CD, which is subject to it's own long-term physical mortality.

Pascal Hibon
2015-10-15, 05:37
Interesting so many of the respondents here are still mainly buying CDs. The world is changing but apparently not everywhere.


Well, I guess if we would mention our age category we would start to see a trend... :-)

DJanGo
2015-10-15, 06:26
Interesting so many of the respondents here are still mainly buying CDs. The world is changing but apparently not everywhere.

Lol....

I still have all my taken analogue pictures that i shot myself including the negatives.
But i knew some pictures that i shoot with my digicam that are lost cause of a harddiskfailure or some thiefs who want my PC & NAS without asking me....

"everyone" can steal a NAS - "no one" would steal your CDs..

Mnyb
2015-10-15, 07:33
I buy lossles from the usual online sources mentioned in previus post + some more including HD tracks as a last resort . If thats not a posibilitty i buy a CD .

I rarely buy singles or one track at the time .

I consider artist that can not produce a full length album with mostly decent songs not worth my time anyway .

But ofcourse they are exceptions :) some songs just get stuck in your head and you must have them .

d6jg
2015-10-15, 07:58
As I posted before I do buy CDs almost exclusively but I have noticed that digital purchases of new releases often include stuff that isn't made available on the CD version but only if you opt for a deluxe CD/DVD or CD/Blu-ray box set which then leaves you the problem of ripping from the DVD or Blu-ray. I bought Rattle That Lock in 24/96 from Quboz for exactly that reason.

If this becomes the norm I might find myself buying more downloads. Never a single track though!

RonM
2015-10-15, 08:28
Lol....

I still have all my taken analogue pictures that i shot myself including the negatives.
But i knew some pictures that i shoot with my digicam that are lost cause of a harddiskfailure or some thiefs who want my PC & NAS without asking me....

"everyone" can steal a NAS - "no one" would steal your CDs..

Well, I'm definitely a geezer, but that's no excuse to not float with the tide, at least to some extent.

If you have your CDs as your backup, they'll be gone in the flood or the fire. I back up all my music to multiple places at home (main archive on my computer, hard drive on my music server, the 320 mp3 copy on a separate drive). I also make a full backup of both lossless and lossy versions onto two small hard drives that I put in a safety deposit box at the bank.

And, of course, something like half or 2/3 of the total collection is in fact on CD, in those boxes in the basement.

As to digital photos, those are backed up on the same hard drives, at the bank. Including the old slide and negative images, the priceless ones professionally scanned to digital files.

reinholdk
2015-10-16, 05:55
A pile of plastic that will become landfill one day, I'm sure.

You're certainly right. Maybe I've to re-think why I'm doing this. :)

banned for life
2015-10-21, 11:46
So that would be BOTH.

B4L

w3wilkes
2015-10-24, 22:14
You're certainly right. Maybe I've to re-think why I'm doing this. :)

Something about holding it. I still like pulling out Things like Alice Cooper - School's Out or what about Cheech and Chong - Big Bambu or reading the back side notes on Leo Kotke - Six and Twelve String Guitar. Even with CD's you'll get booklets sometimes and sometimes they get cutsie on the silkscreen on the disc itself. And then there's the "ritual" of ripping, picking your album art, making sure you've got "your tags just so".

My son has requested that I leave him all my vinyl.

I know why I'm still buying the physical product.

reinholdk
2015-10-25, 09:33
Something about holding it. I still like pulling out Things like Alice Cooper - School's Out or what about Cheech and Chong - Big Bambu or reading the back side notes on Leo Kotke - Six and Twelve String Guitar. Even with CD's you'll get booklets sometimes and sometimes they get cutsie on the silkscreen on the disc itself. And then there's the "ritual" of ripping, picking your album art, making sure you've got "your tags just so".

My son has requested that I leave him all my vinyl.

I know why I'm still buying the physical product.

I agree to your points. And I like buying CDs. But typically I'm holding the CD (case) in hands and reading the booklet only while ripping. Then they're making a nice view in the shelves. So the relevance of the physical product is changing for me.

d6jg
2015-10-25, 09:53
I agree to your points. And I like buying CDs. But typically I'm holding the CD (case) in hands and reading the booklet only while ripping. Then they're making a nice view in the shelves. So the relevance of the physical product is changing for me.

I agree. The CD cover was never as good as an LP cover anyway and some of the booklets need a magnifying glass to read. I like and use ipeng's lookup feature on a regular basis while I am listening to something. Pippin if you read this I'd really like it if iPeng could lookup to other sources as well as Wikipedia. All music or similar album reviews would be great. I wouldn't mind if the links opened Safari either.

I shall still buy CDs until at least the price of lossless downloads becomes sensible.

emalvick
2016-01-04, 15:38
I know it's an older thread, but this is a topic I think about quite a bit. I am an album person. I rarely buy single tracks.

I'm the type of guy that buys CD's so I can get a lossless version of the files. In recent years, I rip to flac and never listen to the CD's again. I mostly do that because CD's tend to be cheaper than digital, AND because most digital is in MP3 or Hi-Res (which I don't really care about).

Spotify is actually limiting my habit of buying CD's a bit. If I listen to an album a few times, then I buy the CD, otherwise I skip. AND, obtaining a turntable in the past year has limited me even further. If they ever get to offer FLAC files (standard CD resolution) at a reasonable price, I might give up on the physical product. I am feeling guilty of all the plastic I have in CD's that isn't really getting used.

I just wish I could understand the reason for such audio files to cost so much more than a physical product. At the same time, I wish I could bring myself to be ok with 320kbps mp3's instead of FLAC.

DJanGo
2016-01-04, 16:13
I just wish I could understand the reason for such audio files to cost so much more than a physical product. At the same time, I wish I could bring myself to be ok with 320kbps mp3's instead of FLAC.


I do have some insider informations about that...
You / the Music supplier needs a huge amount of extra stuff and extra work to deliver audio files to the customer.
"Plastic" you need only some Glasmasters and they least more than hundred thousands of "copys"
Digital means you must provide technical equipment (most re-sellers like Amazon & Apple want their piece of cake and they even told them about pricing as well)

The "old" Way (its the way i prefer as well even with the unused stuff in my Cellar) is cheaper....
A bigbunch is pressed;printed; stored and delivered to the pre-sellers and the pressing devices do other Material unless the supplier needs more plastic.

Just "ask yourself" what do you expect - in the last century we go to the shop ask for our Vinyl/CD and if its not on stock we just go somewhere else or order them and get them later.
Now everyone whats ASAP eg. Adeles New Work all over the World - the online customer wants his stuff fast if not faster. The Billing and all that other backofficestuff also needs attention....
eg. when the digitalbooks where deployed everyone thought - he no paper no pressing no storagefacility no travel from here to there - a ebook must be cheaper as the printed Version.

Nope there is a hell (ok its unfair cause ebooks needs a complete new way to be procuced - other than the "oldish" printed books now even printed books are produced with the same workflow) lot of extra stuff...

Its more involved than you expect believe me. And again i want the real deal :o

bomboloni
2016-01-04, 16:52
Like most here it seems, I primarily buy full albums. I will buy only a single track rarely.

However, I probably buy 50% on CD and 50% digital files. I buy the CD if I am confident I want a high quality file because the music/artist warrants it. I buy a very broad range of music and sometimes I know that a purchase will only get a few months of play instead of a lifetime, or the music style doesn't require high res files (i.e. punk).

I probably buy half in one of the great stores we have here, and the other half on Amazon - mainly because of the Autorip feature of getting the MP3 files with the purchase of the CD (I keep separate files for portable and home). I figure this saves me a lot of money over time, and I don't have to store the discs. I throw out the jewel case and the disc and booklet go into a plastic sleeve, then into a storage drawer alphabetically if I want to browse.

I also go through the physical discs and get rid of stuff that doesn't make the grade any longer. I live in Manhattan so space is always a premium. As far as backups I have the disc, a NAS and a full backup of that NAS on a separate portable drive.

Mnyb
2016-01-04, 20:14
I agree. The CD cover was never as good as an LP cover anyway and some of the booklets need a magnifying glass to read. I like and use ipeng's lookup feature on a regular basis while I am listening to something. Pippin if you read this I'd really like it if iPeng could lookup to other sources as well as Wikipedia. All music or similar album reviews would be great. I wouldn't mind if the links opened Safari either.

I shall still buy CDs until at least the price of lossless downloads becomes sensible.

But it does iPeng do link to album reviews and some album info and wiki ,it might be trough a plugin , wish I knew which one of them :)

Prices for downloads I find flac 16/44.1 downloads actually slightly cheaper than a physical cd when you can find them , in this crazy world it's either lossy ( MP3 or AAC ) or audiophile "quality" 24 bit via HD tracks or similar . And HD tracks charge premium for nothing as thier cult clientele like to pay to much " cost no object " is a thing

But in the case of CD quality flac downloads when they exist they are not always more expensive than physical discs .
Best example,from the top of my head bandcamp.

But then there is the fun of buying used discs :)

It may just be a philosophical thing some do want a physical object .

And the costs of CD the manufacturing is a couple of % of the total price aka negligible the prices are all for the intellectual property basically . So expecting downloads to cost half of physical cd is to expect the record company and artist to get less .

But I'm old enough to remember the initial price hike when cd was introduced over the LP it costed much more .

The record companies blamed manufacturing costs , but that was bull . The market competition had driven LP prices down .
And with the newly rejuvenatet interest in music and hifi with the CD format they simply wanted to make money .

The Swedish market was a bit different the LP was always much bigger than the pre recorded cassette ( it was considered cr*p even among normal people ) most folks bougth the LP . Cassette where the thing to copy others LP's or to do mix tapes .

Even when I was a kid and only had a boombox I bougth the LP and copied it to Cassatte on dad's tape deck :)

dasmueller
2016-01-04, 21:17
It is rare that I buy anything at all these days. Most of what I acquire is from legal download sites of live shows. I much prefer the ambience of a well recorded live show to the over-orchestrated commercial release. That being said, another factor is the volume of music I have, which I am sure is much less than many here. Looking at the stats on LMS Control Panel I could now listen to something different for 109+ days and never here the same recording 2x. I'm not saying I won't buy anything, but it has to be something really special. There are times I feel more like a collector than a listener.

Thoughts ?

d6jg
2016-01-05, 06:07
I do have some insider informations about that...
You / the Music supplier needs a huge amount of extra stuff and extra work to deliver audio files to the customer.
"Plastic" you need only some Glasmasters and they least more than hundred thousands of "copys"
Digital means you must provide technical equipment (most re-sellers like Amazon & Apple want their piece of cake and they even told them about pricing as well)

The "old" Way (its the way i prefer as well even with the unused stuff in my Cellar) is cheaper....
A bigbunch is pressed;printed; stored and delivered to the pre-sellers and the pressing devices do other Material unless the supplier needs more plastic.

Just "ask yourself" what do you expect - in the last century we go to the shop ask for our Vinyl/CD and if its not on stock we just go somewhere else or order them and get them later.
Now everyone whats ASAP eg. Adeles New Work all over the World - the online customer wants his stuff fast if not faster. The Billing and all that other backofficestuff also needs attention....
eg. when the digitalbooks where deployed everyone thought - he no paper no pressing no storagefacility no travel from here to there - a ebook must be cheaper as the printed Version.

Nope there is a hell (ok its unfair cause ebooks needs a complete new way to be procuced - other than the "oldish" printed books now even printed books are produced with the same workflow) lot of extra stuff...

Its more involved than you expect believe me. And again i want the real deal :o


That cannot be correct.
While the initial set up cost of the digital download delivery mechanism will have been costly economies of scale will quickly apply. There is no manufacturing cost, no packaging cost, no distribution cost attached to digital downloads and yes while Amazon and the like want their share so did the Record Shops of yesteryear.
Downloads must be cheaper than CDs by now.

RonM
2016-01-05, 06:31
As I have said before in this thread, I almost never get individual tracks, almost entirely albums. I cross many genres, too, and have many sources. When I identify something I want to have, I have a kind of decision-tree.

Do I really want a lossless version (cd quality), or will a high-end mp3 (320) do the job? Often the latter, because I can't actually hear a difference between a 320 and a flac, most of the time.

How badly do I want the album? Right now, no delay, or am I happy to wait for a few days or weeks?


What's the cost of a CD? Sometimes quite low, but often quite high. Is there a used version available at a cheap cost?


What's available at download sites and at what quality? I often buy downloads from sites like Bandcamp, CDBaby and Zunior that have a flac option for all downloads, at no additional cost, and at prices that are competitive, often cheaper than, physical CDs.


I'll consider lossy downloads from places like iTunes or eMusic, if the cost/benefit/convenience equation merits it. Much easier now for new releases on eMusic, which are almost all at 320 quality (see first bullet above)


I maintain some subscriptions, like for the Bowers and Wilkins Society of Sound, which gives me excellent quality classical recordings (cd quality or higher) at what amounts to a cheap price, with occasionally interesting non-classical thrown in.


So, I'm pretty flexible and try to take a cost-conscious approach. Of course, I, too, have way too much music to ever listen to, and even hearing and considering new acquisitions can be a chore. I need to be more disciplined about NOT getting everything that crosses my consciousness as potentially desirable.

emalvick
2016-01-05, 15:38
This is all very interesting. I guess I've not looked hard enough to find FLAC files (16/44.1) available for everything I want. Perhaps I should look harder. Thanks to the past through posts for giving some ideas.

This also reminds me (I'm guilty on this) of how internet shopping can make us a bit lazy. I use Spotify to browse for albums I might want to own. NPR Music also helps discovery for me. When I get to buying, I generally go through Amazon. I know of HD Tracks and similar, but I don't find myself needing more than 16/44.1. I forget that there might be other options. I do occasionally buy FLACs directly from the artists, but I never check around for other people that might actually sell albums. I briefly browsed Tidal last week (a family member is shopping for a streaming service); they sell FLAC albums, but again, I don't find the prices enticing.

Otherwise, the lazy comes in that I often just go through Amazon and figure what they have is as good as it could get. Bands that do sell FLAC through their labels or web-sites tend to charge a slight premium for FLAC, which I happily pay for, but even then I find myself buying a CD for the price of the MP3's or even an LP. I'm still a bit of a sucker for the physical product. Foremost, I probably need to just purge what music I don't really want anymore (physical or digital).

I'll also admit to occasionally grabbing a set of FLAC files online from those less legal locations after buying an mp3 album of something I couldn't even find a physical product for anymore. I've also done that to get rips from LPs that often aren't the victim of the dynamic compression that plagues the MP3 and CD's. I don't like resorting to that tactic, so I rarely do it, but I'll start checking some of the online sources described.

cybergrimes
2016-01-07, 15:59
Not sure if it was mentioned earlier in the thread but I'm a fan of 7Digital. They are competitive with Amazon, at least when I want to buy something. For example Amazon is currently selling '1 Hopeful Rd.' by Vintage Trouble on MP3 for $9.49 but 7Digital has 16/44 FLAC for $8.49 or $5.99 for the MP3. Never bought anything from HDTracks or Acoustic Sounds, more likely to buy the CD for cheaper than use those sites.

On the original topic, I'll often buy a single to troll the family with some current pop sensation going around :D but otherwise it's going to be a full album.

RonM
2016-01-08, 07:07
Not sure if it was mentioned earlier in the thread but I'm a fan of 7Digital. They are competitive with Amazon, at least when I want to buy something. For example Amazon is currently selling '1 Hopeful Rd.' by Vintage Trouble on MP3 for $9.49 but 7Digital has 16/44 FLAC for $8.49 or $5.99 for the MP3. Never bought anything from HDTracks or Acoustic Sounds, more likely to buy the CD for cheaper than use those sites.

On the original topic, I'll often buy a single to troll the family with some current pop sensation going around :D but otherwise it's going to be a full album.

And just for comparison, eMusic has a 320 mp3 of The Bomb Shelter Sessions (2011) for $5.38, and the Swing House Acoustic Sessions EP (2014) for $2.45. They don't yet have Vintage Trouble.

Mnyb
2016-01-08, 11:08
I need to be more disciplined about NOT getting everything that crosses my consciousness as potentially desirable.

That's worth thinking about , I to simply have grabbed to much music over they years .

I think I'll try to recover to that mind state one had in younger days . You anticipated an album and waited for it for a long time then finally bougth it . If it was good you listened to it a lot several times a day :) until you really knew it by heart .

I've sometimes added stuff to my collection I've heard once ,that's it .

So yea buy less enjoy more ! But it's to easy to buy to much ..

Actual living friends can help a lot , if I on occasion meet one of music interested friends over beer or two ( or 10 ) we can exchange a lot of new stuff .

Wirrunna
2016-01-17, 01:26
Albums only.
In Australia the local record (CD) shop has gone the way of the dodo. There is one big electronics chain store (JB HiFi) that still has cds but their selection has declined rapidly. K-Mart has only top 20 pop. Postage from Amazon doubles the price of the physical cd as we don't have an Amazon warehouse down here.
So I buy from the online sources mentioned in earlier posts, my kids buy from the iEmpire.

Which leads me to ask "Has anyone bought from FlacIt - www.flacit.com ?"

cybergrimes
2016-01-17, 08:13
Which leads me to ask "Has anyone bought from FlacIt - www.flacit.com ?"

Sucks to here about the purchasing situation in Australia.

re: FlacIt-- prices that low seem too good to be true but I see they are UK based. I don't know much about UK pricing but I'm guessing if it's also too good to be true for everyone else then you might as well be torrenting your music ;/

garym
2016-01-17, 08:19
Which leads me to ask "Has anyone bought from FlacIt - www.flacit.com (http://www.flacit.com) ?"

Interesting. From the US it shows me US Dollar prices. They do seem very cheap. $2 to $5 per album in FLAC. They also seem to report details about version. In looking at the Rolling Stones catalog, they'll have the same album, but note some are 2009 reissues, some are 2011 or 2013, and some are 1986 versions. I haven't bought from them, but it looks promising if legit.

cybergrimes
2016-01-17, 08:50
I just signed up with some made up credentials--

First red flag they displayed the login name and password in plain text after signing up on a non secured page.
Second up, the payment site is https://secure.e-mall247.com/payment/, the top of this page says "Top Herbal e commerce solutions" Also you don't pay for exact purchase, you have to add funds in $10 increments and they only appear to accept Visa card.

I then checked them on SSL Labs and got a name mismatch, SSL certificate is listed to admin.sevenpay.com
The SSL Labs overall score was a C, full results here: https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=flacit.com

Over on WOT, https://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/flacit.com, someone posted about 10 days ago that the site asked for SSN when registering to pay. I'm not seeing that in my walkthrough on the checkout process.

Grumpy Bob
2016-01-17, 08:52
Interesting. From the US it shows me US Dollar prices. They do seem very cheap. $2 to $5 per album in FLAC. They also seem to report details about version. In looking at the Rolling Stones catalog, they'll have the same album, but note some are 2009 reissues, some are 2011 or 2013, and some are 1986 versions. I haven't bought from them, but it looks promising if legit.

Shows me dollar prices in the UK. The website has a UK address, but is hosted in Germany. A slightly slapdash writing style gives me cause for concern. Always a little concerned where handing over credit card details is involved. If it's legit, wonder how it is so cheap?

Robert

garym
2016-01-17, 08:56
I just signed up with some made up credentials--

First red flag they displayed the login name and password in plain text after signing up on a non secured page.
Second up, the payment site is https://secure.e-mall247.com/payment/, the top of this page says "Top Herbal e commerce solutions" Also you don't pay for exact purchase, you have to add funds in $10 increments and they only appear to accept Visa card.

I then checked them on SSL Labs and got a name mismatch, SSL certificate is listed to admin.sevenpay.com
The SSL Labs overall score was a C, full results here: https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=flacit.com

Over on WOT, https://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/flacit.com, someone posted about 10 days ago that the site asked for SSN when registering to pay. I'm not seeing that in my walkthrough on the checkout process.

thanks for checking this out. I'll be avoiding despite some of the amazing prices ($1.25!) for out of print albums.

jazzman53
2017-02-04, 20:00
I'm cheap so I prefer to buy used CD's on Amazon and rip them to laptop. However, I have been known to download a single track off iTunes if I only like that one tune on the album. Even, I never buy a $.99 download from iTunes because I can't abide the lower fidelity.

iPhone
2017-04-16, 07:28
I just signed up with some made up credentials--

First red flag they displayed the login name and password in plain text after signing up on a non secured page.
Second up, the payment site is https://secure.e-mall247.com/payment/, the top of this page says "Top Herbal e commerce solutions" Also you don't pay for exact purchase, you have to add funds in $10 increments and they only appear to accept Visa card.

I then checked them on SSL Labs and got a name mismatch, SSL certificate is listed to admin.sevenpay.com
The SSL Labs overall score was a C, full results here: https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=flacit.com

Over on WOT, https://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/flacit.com, someone posted about 10 days ago that the site asked for SSN when registering to pay. I'm not seeing that in my walkthrough on the checkout process.

By chance, any update on FLACit.com? I see their website is still up. Do you have any additional information one them as to good to go or stay far far away?

Anybody else used FLACit.com or had/heard anything about them?