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Iain Shaw
2004-12-13, 09:09
This feels dumb to me even as I type it but I remember feeling the same
when I asked about digital radio.....so here goes

I want to able to distribute audio for a friend. He's got the usual CD
and MP3 collection and also still listens to a lot of records. Does
anyone have any suggestions on any kind of setup that might allow a
record player be integrated into a network of streaming devices.

apologies if this has been asked before.

Jack Coates
2004-12-13, 09:23
Iain Shaw wrote:
> This feels dumb to me even as I type it but I remember feeling the same
> when I asked about digital radio.....so here goes
>
> I want to able to distribute audio for a friend. He's got the usual CD
> and MP3 collection and also still listens to a lot of records. Does
> anyone have any suggestions on any kind of setup that might allow a
> record player be integrated into a network of streaming devices.
>
> apologies if this has been asked before.
>

not specifically vinyl, but there's been a bit of discussion about
generic audio input (from musical instruments, radio cards, &c). It's an
interesting area of inquiry to me, I'd like to someday manage an AM/FM
tuner through the Slimserver...

There hasn't been much in the way of progress though, the core devels
are focusing on SQL backend (rightly so). Doing this audio input trick
in a cross-platform way is not simple, but I think there've been some
posts about various single platform workarounds you could use... try
searching for audio stream or analogue input.
--
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Jason Holtzapple
2004-12-13, 09:35
Iain Shaw wrote:
> This feels dumb to me even as I type it but I remember feeling the same
> when I asked about digital radio.....so here goes
>
> I want to able to distribute audio for a friend. He's got the usual CD
> and MP3 collection and also still listens to a lot of records. Does
> anyone have any suggestions on any kind of setup that might allow a
> record player be integrated into a network of streaming devices.
>
> apologies if this has been asked before.

What's "a lot"? I'd suggest converting the vinyl to flac and streaming
it directly with slimserver. This is a good idea both for convenience
and preservation of the original records.

There are a few decent guides for digitizing vinyl out there ... my
own experiences here are too outdated to be useful.

Bruce Hartley
2004-12-13, 09:40
are you talking about "ripping" vinyl, which is possible and there is even
software for cleaning up the audio (hiss/pops etc.)
Or are you talking about real time streaming of a record player?


"Iain Shaw" <iain (AT) nqube (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:cpkejr$6p8$1 (AT) sea (DOT) gmane.org...
> This feels dumb to me even as I type it but I remember feeling the same
> when I asked about digital radio.....so here goes
>
> I want to able to distribute audio for a friend. He's got the usual CD
> and MP3 collection and also still listens to a lot of records. Does
> anyone have any suggestions on any kind of setup that might allow a record
> player be integrated into a network of streaming devices.
>
> apologies if this has been asked before.

Daniel Cohen
2004-12-13, 09:44
On 13/12/04 at 4:09 pm +0000, Iain Shaw wrote
>This feels dumb to me even as I type it but I remember feeling the
>same when I asked about digital radio.....so here goes
>
>I want to able to distribute audio for a friend. He's got the usual
>CD and MP3 collection and also still listens to a lot of records.
>Does anyone have any suggestions on any kind of setup that might
>allow a record player be integrated into a network of streaming
>devices.

There are, of course, fancy multi-room hifi systems. Usually madly
expensive, and I don't know if any are wireless.

then one could just use a system such as the iMic (though I prefer
the Edirol products) that will allow one to copy LPs or cassettes
onto a hard drive and then split and encode by whatever method one
liked.

And for some people Hermstedt's Hifidelio might work well. As I
understand it, it will rip to mp3 anything coming out of one's hifi,
and it will then (in principle, not sure of the practice) allow
streaming to various "satellites". I'm not sure how far this is
advanced along the way to consumer supply and use, I've only seen a
short demo.
--
Daniel Cohen

Iain Shaw
2004-12-13, 13:06
Bruce Hartley wrote:
> are you talking about "ripping" vinyl, which is possible and there is even
> software for cleaning up the audio (hiss/pops etc.)
> Or are you talking about real time streaming of a record player?
>

I'm trying to understand what's possible. I know you can rip vinyl and
that may be what we have to do here but I'm also trying to see what
could be done in terms of real time streaming. I was thinking about
whether a deveice like a Barix instreamer might be used. Open to all
ideas here.

Kevin O. Lepard
2004-12-13, 14:15
>I know you can rip vinyl and that may be what we have to do
>here...Open to all ideas here.

I think you're probably best off ripping the vinyl. The FLAC or MP3
files will integrate better with the SlimServer software, and you'll
spare wear-and-tear on the vinyl and record player.

My $0.02.

Kevin
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Kevin O. Lepard
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Happiness is being 100% Microsoft free.

Graham Ridgway at home
2004-12-13, 15:46
I agree about ripping. Also the only benefit of real-time streaming is
having the deck in a diff place to the player. With only 20 mins of music
per side, you will be doing a huge amount of running back and forth!

I have ripped quite a bit of vinyl and haven't found a great tool for
removing clicks and rumbles. You seem to take out great chunks of frequency
range. I use tools called LPRecorder and LPRipper to record the album to
WAV split it into tracks and then spawn LAME to encode.

Graham
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> >I know you can rip vinyl and that may be what we have to do here...Open
> >to all ideas here.
>
> I think you're probably best off ripping the vinyl. The FLAC or MP3 files
> will integrate better with the SlimServer software, and you'll spare
> wear-and-tear on the vinyl and record player.
>
> My $0.02.
>
> Kevin
> --
> Kevin O. Lepard
> kolepard (AT) charter (DOT) net
>
> Happiness is being 100% Microsoft free.
>

Kevin O. Lepard
2004-12-13, 15:56
>I have ripped quite a bit of vinyl and haven't found a great tool
>for removing clicks and rumbles.

Those are part of the warmth beauty of vinyl and their inherent
superiority over CD. *cough*cough*

Seriously, though, the only really good way I know to edit those out
is doing is manually, and that's not perfect either.

But this emphasizes the advantage of minimizing wear and tear, IMHO.

Kevin

P.S. The first sentence is meant to be taken with good humor. I'm
not trying to start a vinyl/analogue-tube, etc. vs. digital vs.
my-technology-is-better-than-yours flame war.
--
Kevin O. Lepard
kolepard (AT) charter (DOT) net

Happiness is being 100% Microsoft free.