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Peter Galbavy
2015-08-20, 03:30
Yamaha have updated their MusicCast stuff, and on the surface it may be an alternative for SB users in the longer term and will be a competitor to Sonos, at least.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/08/20/the_second_coming_of_yamaha_musiccast

poing
2015-08-20, 09:16
Interesting.

Everybody seems to be getting (back) into the streaming and multi-room audio markets. I can't stop wondering about Logitech...

Mushroom_3
2015-08-21, 02:57
Just look at the prices of that stuff. There must be a few Logitech "executives" with egg on their faces........

verypsb
2015-08-21, 09:37
Looks promising...

But how can I use my existing receivers/amplifiers with MusicCast? There's no network player, is there?

Best regards,
Denis.

CommanderROR
2015-08-21, 11:15
I actually own a Yamaha RX-V679, but can't find out how to use MusicCast. I installed the app, but can't get past the "press connect" stage. I can hold the connect button on my Yamaha as long as I like, it doesn't do anything.
Maybe I need newer firmware, but currently can't find any updates.

What I'm wondering about: How many streaming services are onboard? Qobuz probably isn't. And then I don't see an option to connect my active speakers or my passives for that matter, without spending huge sums on full-size amps.

My current LMS/RaspberryPi/Hifiberry setup seems so much nicer... ;)

Ipengman
2015-08-22, 00:32
I actually own a Yamaha RX-V679, but can't find out how to use MusicCast. I installed the app, but can't get past the "press connect" stage. I can hold the connect button on my Yamaha as long as I like, it doesn't do anything.
Maybe I need newer firmware, but currently can't find any updates.

What I'm wondering about: How many streaming services are onboard? Qobuz probably isn't. And then I don't see an option to connect my active speakers or my passives for that matter, without spending huge sums on full-size amps.

My current LMS/RaspberryPi/Hifiberry setup seems so much nicer... ;)

The updated firmware is coming later this year and will allow you to connect. I was considering a new Yamaha reciever and will wait for this until I buy. Same they arent adding to older models with network capabilities as I have two.

CommanderROR
2015-08-22, 00:50
That's interesting since Yamaha claims that the compatible firmware is "available since the 20th of August"... somewhere on their website or in their Press Release.
I contacted their Support and will now wait what they reply.

toby10
2015-08-22, 03:47
"MusicCast includes Pandora®, Spotify Connect, Rhapsody® and SiriusXM Internet Radio streaming services, as well as thousands of free local and international Internet radio stations."

http://usa.yamaha.com/news_events/audio_visual/yamaha_musiccast_unites_hi-fi_and_home_theater/

In the past Yamaha has used vTuner for it's basic streaming stations and navigation for it's networked receivers and previous MusicCast hardware (like how SqueezeBox uses RadioTime/TuneIn). I assume this is still the case.

verypsb
2015-08-23, 00:07
and MusicCast should support "YouTube", according to soms websites...

CommanderROR
2015-08-25, 04:43
My avr got a Firmware Update yesterday, and now MusicCast works. It doesn't offer anything special or new though, so I have little use for it at the moment.

I think Sonos is the only system that is a longer-term alternative to the SB ecosystem since it has a lot of flexibility (with speakers, without sprakers, active or pasdive etc) but it is very expensive, uses too much power in standby and the speakers on the "all in one" models have pretty bad quality

toby10
2015-08-25, 04:48
Sonos.......with speakers, without sprakers, active or pasdive etc.... but it is very expensive....

MusicCast offers the same, also pricey.

wortgefecht
2015-08-25, 06:54
Just saw it at a "audiophile" store: Denon has its own system called Heon. Any experiences? The speakers look odd, at most.

kh6idf
2015-09-02, 04:47
I think Sonos is the only system that is a longer-term alternative to the SB ecosystem ...

The Denon Heos Link is another alternative. I am using one now with Rhapsody, Spotify, TuneIn and Pandora. Sound quality is good and it's easy to use with an ipad, iphone or Android tablet for control/display.

brodeur
2016-12-30, 02:32
Looks promising...

But how can I use my existing receivers/amplifiers with MusicCast? There's no network player, is there?

Best regards,
Denis.

You just buy a WCX-50

brodeur
2016-12-30, 03:03
Musicast is on a complete different level than the old squeezebox stuff. Spotify connect is a big deal and the ability to combine both high end sound in your expensive rig (I am running a WCX-50 with digital out) with multi room everywhere is great.

Paul Webster
2016-12-30, 06:11
Old thread brought back to life - but the WXC-50 does cost around 350USD RRP - so it should be in a different league.
http://usa.yamaha.com/products/audio-visual/wireless_streaming_amplifiers/wxc-50/

thehammeranderson
2017-01-09, 15:29
I just got done installing the UPnP/DNLA bridge plugin on LMS and it works pretty flawlessly to turn my Yamaha receiver with MusicCast into a squeezebox player. I can now leverage MusicIP and Spicefly Sugarcube to create dynamic and endless playlists instead of manually having to pick music with the MusicCast app. It was truly plug and play and I am extremely thrilled that I didn't have to go buy a used squeezebox device and hook it up to the receiver. The plugin also made all my DNLA devices like my Tv, Bluray player, and Xbox available as players... very cool!

bernt
2017-01-09, 23:37
I just got done installing the UPnP/DNLA bridge plugin on LMS and it works pretty flawlessly to turn my Yamaha receiver with MusicCast into a squeezebox player. I can now leverage MusicIP and Spicefly Sugarcube to create dynamic and endless playlists instead of manually having to pick music with the MusicCast app. It was truly plug and play and I am extremely thrilled that I didn't have to go buy a used squeezebox device and hook it up to the receiver. The plugin also made all my DNLA devices like my Tv, Bluray player, and Xbox available as players... very cool!

flac, gapless, Replay gain?

verypsb
2017-01-10, 00:31
I just got done installing the UPnP/DNLA bridge plugin on LMS and it works pretty flawlessly to turn my Yamaha receiver with MusicCast into a squeezebox player. I can now leverage MusicIP and Spicefly Sugarcube to create dynamic and endless playlists instead of manually having to pick music with the MusicCast app. It was truly plug and play and I am extremely thrilled that I didn't have to go buy a used squeezebox device and hook it up to the receiver. The plugin also made all my DNLA devices like my Tv, Bluray player, and Xbox available as players... very cool!

May I ask what size your music library is? I tried Yamaha MusiCast, but found it pretty useless, the MusiCast app is so slow, it even has no search or play queue. Or are you using the MusiCast device as a Squeezebox client?

Best regards,
Dennis.

verypsb
2017-01-10, 10:38
flac, gapless, Replay gain?

and/or Synchronisation / Crossfade?

philippe_44
2018-05-28, 09:40
and/or Synchronisation / Crossfade?

I was searching for something in the forum archives and found this old thread. Just FYI, the Yamaha WX-10 and WX-30 are AirPlay compatible so you'll get true LMS integration, ncluding sync, cross fade, replay gain ... when using my AirPlay plugin

verypsb
2018-05-28, 12:09
Good to know! Too bad that Airplay only supports 44.1khz... :-(

I tried to get it working, but I can't get any sound out of my Yamaha CX-A5100. Airplay Bridge does however autodetect the receiver. I don't see any errors in the log file...

Best regards,
Dennis.

philippe_44
2018-05-28, 12:45
Good to know! Too bad that Airplay only supports 44.1khz... :-(

I tried to get it working, but I can't get any sound out of my Yamaha CX-A5100. Airplay Bridge does however autodetect the receiver. I don't see any errors in the log file...

Best regards,
Dennis.

It's usually because you have a firewall on the computer running the bridge. Try w/o it and if it works, then it's about creating the rules for it to run. If you post the log I can alos help verifying that hypothesis

verypsb
2018-05-28, 13:52
Thanks! Reading the bit about the firewall in the readme file did help a lot... It's working now. If only Apple would decide that Airplay could support higher sampling/bit rates...

Or if you would be interested in creating in a MusicCast bridge, that would be awesome too! :-)

Best regards,
Dennis.

philippe_44
2018-05-28, 16:31
Thanks! Reading the bit about the firewall in the readme file did help a lot... It's working now. If only Apple would decide that Airplay could support higher sampling/bit rates...

Or if you would be interested in creating in a MusicCast bridge, that would be awesome too! :-)

Best regards,
Dennis.

Glad you had it to work.
BTW, you might, for WX-xx speakers, have to use the "Trigger" parameter if you experience that volume is not set properly after pause/resume
I think AirPlay2 will support higher res, but spec is not and will probably be not public ... same as for MusicCast (and these bridges are not easy to do). The AirPlay was the best option for me as it gives me sync, which is really what I wanted. I wish I could do the same with Chromecast, but google is secretive about their sync protocol ...

johnieutah
2018-10-16, 06:58
I have just purchased a Yamaha wx-010... Media Markt are knocking them out for €88 so I thought it was rude not to. Anyways I just set it up and within a few minutes had it working off the local server and integrated with lms. This plugin is fantastic, the fact I get perfect sync and gapless playback with airplay is unbelievable.

I can now look at replacing over squeeze boxes as and when necessary, the flexibility of yamahas musiccast System is truly great, and the sound quality is at least equal to what I had previously.

The musiccast controller software is very rudimentary compared to something like iPeng, but that’s the beauty of using them this plugin, I can simply keep using my existing setup.

So a big Thank you Phillippe :)