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Wolfy
2015-08-06, 02:09
Hi,
I have bin testing around with jivelite on a raspberry pi. I'm not super fond of it.
It look's and feels a little old, lagging and not up to speed..
I have bin looking around to find a player software that has a "squeezelite" player incorporated into a gui.
Ether for a windows machine or even better, for a raspberry pi.
Any one know of a couple of players that has a gui built in from start?

Julf
2015-08-06, 03:10
Hi,
I have bin testing around with jivelite on a raspberry pi. I'm not super fond of it.
It look's and feels a little old, lagging and not up to speed..
I have bin looking around to find a player software that has a "squeezelite" player incorporated into a gui.
Ether for a windows machine or even better, for a raspberry pi.
Any one know of a couple of players that has a gui built in from start?

And you don't like a web-based interface?

In any case, it should be possible to run squeezelite on the RPi.

Wolfy
2015-08-06, 03:33
no, that means i have to hve a nother computer or tablet open just to view whats playing (if I'm running a radio playlist or so)

squeezelite is possible to run on raspberry pi but it has no gui..

Julf
2015-08-06, 03:43
no, that means i have to hve a nother computer or tablet open just to view whats playing (if I'm running a radio playlist or so)

Why not run the web browser on the RPi?


squeezelite is possible to run on raspberry pi but it has no gui..

How about JiveLite (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?98156-Announce-JiveLite-cut-down-squeezebox-control-application)?

pippin
2015-08-06, 03:46
Android tablet or iPod touch as player?

Wolfy
2015-08-06, 04:00
Why not run the web browser on the RPi?
mostly because i don't want to use a web gui for acces



How about JiveLite (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?98156-Announce-JiveLite-cut-down-squeezebox-control-application)?
In my first post i wrote i don't like the feeling of jivelite so would like to know if anyone knew of alternative players with a gui already integrated in the install and not having to install another software.

Julf
2015-08-06, 04:05
mostly because i don't want to use a web gui for acces

Why not?


In my first post i wrote i don't like the feeling of jivelite

Ah, sorry. What is it about jivelite that you don't like?


so would like to know if anyone knew of alternative players with a gui already integrated in the install and not having to install another software.

I see - by "alternative players" you mean a complete linux package for the RPi (rather than just a player program). I tend to prefer to install the components I like, rather than hoping to find a complete package that would happen to have everything "just right".

Wolfy
2015-08-06, 04:21
dose there have to be a reason why i don't like using a web interface?


the felling of the interface.




I see - by "alternative players" you mean a complete linux package for the RPi (rather than just a player program). I tend to prefer to install the components I like, rather than hoping to find a complete package that would happen to have everything "just right".
that is why i ask if anyone know of this or if i have to look around the web looking for different programs that i like and see if they work together.
A "finished os" is rel time updated, not needing to look into a different program to see what is playing, what is happening and so on. it feels complete and not patched.

Julf
2015-08-06, 05:10
dose there have to be a reason why i don't like using a web interface?

There doesn't have to be a reason - but understanding what you don't like about it would help in suggesting alternatives (or fixes).

Wolfy
2015-08-06, 05:53
it feels old, going thru the settings page it feels rely difficult and hard maneuverable.
the interface feels simple and boring.

same for the jivelite page, in a kind of way it is almost exactly the same..

there for i am looking for alternativ gui's

Julf
2015-08-06, 07:19
it feels old, going thru the settings page it feels rely difficult and hard maneuverable.
the interface feels simple and boring.

same for the jivelite page, in a kind of way it is almost exactly the same..

there for i am looking for alternativ gui's

Pretty much all GUIs are going to reflect the underlying functionality and APIs (unless we are talking about visual sugar coating).

pippin
2015-08-06, 08:29
Again: What is the problem with Android and iOS devices? With the right dock you can get pretty darn good SQ and you have easy to use, integrated UIs

usc95
2015-08-06, 15:08
Do you use Kodi (formerly known as XBMC) media center? If so then you can use the Xsqueeze addon which looks pretty nice and includes a squeezelite player:

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It will work on both the raspberry pi as well as windows machines. I used it for a bit but had trouble with the sound quality on the pi but since I have no linux skills I couldn't make the suggested changes to correct my problem. You should have a look at the Kodi forums for more info: http://kodi.wiki/view/Add-on:XSqueeze

In addition, you could try running the Soundicity controller on your windows machine controlling an instance of squeezelite running on the same machine. Soundicity also looks very nice though it is designed for tablets and phones. My personal favorite controller GUI is Ipeng but as of now it only runs on iphones and ipads. I am anxious to see what Pippin does once Apple finally opens up the Apple TV to apps (hint, hint Pippin if you are reading this). Good luck and let us know what you go with.

Wolfy
2015-08-07, 02:41
Pretty much all GUIs are going to reflect the underlying functionality and APIs (unless we are talking about visual sugar coating).
so what you are saying is that there are no alternative "players" that you know of that has a GUI that dose not look like "LMS" in one way or the other unless they are "sugar coated"?
i believe it is the sugar coating i am looking for. As i said i am looking for a nice GUI.


Again: What is the problem with Android and iOS devices? With the right dock you can get pretty darn good SQ and you have easy to use, integrated UIs
It is a good alternative, 2things though..
I don't own a Android or iOS device that i would like to put in a dock and let sit just. in that case it would be a ipad och similar Android screen. as a mobile phone is a little small i think.
Though it got me thinking, android on a pi and that way use a player.
Good idea :)


Do you use Kodi (formerly known as XBMC) media center? If so then you can use the Xsqueeze addon which looks pretty nice and includes a squeezelite player:

It will work on both the raspberry pi as well as windows machines. I used it for a bit but had trouble with the sound quality on the pi but since I have no linux skills I couldn't make the suggested changes to correct my problem. You should have a look at the Kodi forums for more info: http://kodi.wiki/view/Add-on:XSqueeze

In addition, you could try running the Soundicity controller on your windows machine controlling an instance of squeezelite running on the same machine. Soundicity also looks very nice though it is designed for tablets and phones. My personal favorite controller GUI is Ipeng but as of now it only runs on iphones and ipads. I am anxious to see what Pippin does once Apple finally opens up the Apple TV to apps (hint, hint Pippin if you are reading this). Good luck and let us know what you go with.

I have tried it and while i was using it, i looked around in the plugin and some how i accidentally "fell" out of the plugin and started a second player on top of the other one and then i could not exit out of kodi, it just kept playing in the background...
I like the idea, but not that i have to start the application to be able to start playing in on it..

Julf
2015-08-07, 03:50
so what you are saying is that there are no alternative "players" that you know of that has a GUI that dose not look like "LMS" in one way or the other unless they are "sugar coated"?
i believe it is the sugar coating i am looking for. As i said i am looking for a nice GUI.

"Look" is easy to fix, but that wouldn't be enough as to me it sounds like you aren't happy with the "feel" either.


Though it got me thinking, android on a pi and that way use a player.

And you didn't want the hassle of having to install an application separate from the distro? Running android on a RPi is an order of magnitude more difficult.

bebop
2015-08-07, 06:05
Hi,
I have bin testing around with jivelite on a raspberry pi. I'm not super fond of it.
It look's and feels a little old, lagging and not up to speed..
I have bin looking around to find a player software that has a "squeezelite" player incorporated into a gui.
Ether for a windows machine or even better, for a raspberry pi.
Any one know of a couple of players that has a gui built in from start?

I use OrangeSqueeze combined with Squeezeplayer on several phones and tablets, works like a charm, with a cheap tablet, it is probably the cheapest stand alone player/controller you can get anywhere.

Wolfy
2015-08-07, 16:12
"Look" is easy to fix, but that wouldn't be enough as to me it sounds like you aren't happy with the "feel" either.

And you didn't want the hassle of having to install an application separate from the distro? Running android on a RPi is an order of magnitude more difficult.

If you feel so, why keep arguing?
All I'm doing is looking for alternatives?
you have mentioned web-gui, squeezeplug, jivelite. thank you, do you have any more alternatives or are you just going to keep arguing?


I use OrangeSqueeze combined with Squeezeplayer on several phones and tablets, works like a charm, with a cheap tablet, it is probably the cheapest stand alone player/controller you can get anywhere.

Nice, good alternative.

Any more options?

Julf
2015-08-08, 01:08
If you feel so, why keep arguing?

Stating "according to the weather forecast, it will rain tomorrow" is not arguing - even if you don't happen to like rain.

Good luck with your search!

DrewSB
2015-08-10, 16:50
If you feel so, why keep arguing?
All I'm doing is looking for alternatives?
you have mentioned web-gui, squeezeplug, jivelite. thank you, do you have any more alternatives or are you just going to keep arguing?



Nice, good alternative.

Any more options?

There is also controller software on Windows Phone. You can get something like a Lumia 635 for $40 or so unlocked and use that as a controller.

Mnyb
2015-08-10, 17:29
There is also controller software on Windows Phone. You can get something like a Lumia 635 for $40 or so unlocked and use that as a controller.

Can it also be a player ?

Think op specifically wanted player and GUI together . Otherwise there are plenty of good control options for your phone or pad .
( I love the opposite having the GUI not on the player )

Jiveelite do emulate a large part of the squeezebox Touch or Radios interface , but it's really only optimal for these small screens

DrewSB
2015-08-11, 18:48
Can it also be a player ?

Think op specifically wanted player and GUI together . Otherwise there are plenty of good control options for your phone or pad .
( I love the opposite having the GUI not on the player )

Jiveelite do emulate a large part of the squeezebox Touch or Radios interface , but it's really only optimal for these small screens

I don't think so (haven't looked), just mentioned it because the hardware is so inexpensive it can be used as a dedicated controller without much thought. There are also many Lumias with built-in wireless charging which is nice for this application.
In the case of using Android for the interface and the playback, what is the preferred way to transfer the sound to the amplifier?