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castalla
2015-06-06, 12:39
Can anyone recommend a n-type router (maybe dual band?) with excellent wifi range?

I'm utterly confused by the myriad of choices and reviews!

Man in a van
2015-06-06, 13:49
Can anyone recommend a n-type router (maybe dual band?) with excellent wifi range?

I'm utterly confused by the myriad of choices and reviews!

It's a
minefield


On other forums lots of people seem happy with the Asus models, but yer pays yer money..............


http://www.cnet.com/topics/networking/best-networking-devices/802-11n/


http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/test-centre/pc-peripheral/9-best-wireless-router-2015-uk-may-3217482/


I guess an extender is not suitable? I think they might reduce the band width thingy :)

DJanGo
2015-06-06, 14:25
It's a
minefield
Noop its not :rolleyes:

What is your 1st and 2nd usecase ?

Only a router with good wlan?
Something you can built easy a VPN ?

e.g Vigor2925-Series if that does not fit your Wlan needings simply add a Vigor ANT-2520.

I set up this combo for my parents who live in a real big estate with very thick walls and a huge garden.

bluto99
2015-06-06, 16:50
It's a
minefield


On other forums lots of people seem happy with the Asus models, but yer pays yer money..............


http://www.cnet.com/topics/networking/best-networking-devices/802-11n/


http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/test-centre/pc-peripheral/9-best-wireless-router-2015-uk-may-3217482/


I guess an extender is not suitable? I think they might reduce the band width thingy :)

Definitely not an extender, I learned the hard way just this week ...my piCore player worked OK very close to the extender, not so well otherwise, lots of dropouts, skips, etc. I did some reading and learned that since wifi extenders send and receive on the same channel speed is indeed drastically reduced and there are lots of collisions and dropped packets. FWIW I connected a second wifi router via a powerline link and that works great, after some Googling learned that the second router gets a fixed IP and is connected to the first via a LAN port, NOT the internet port, the first router handles DHCP etc.. Anyway was able to set this second zone up using stuff I had on hand and now have reliable Squeezebox FLAC play in the house and the detached garage, LMS sees the players on both routers, ios and Android controller apps see and can control both players, etc.
FWIW this link was very helpful for setting up my second router, an old WRT54G I recycled.

https://community.linksys.com/t5/Wireless-Routers/Connecting-two-routers-wired-the-definitive-answer/td-p/47006

neilcoburn
2015-06-07, 00:03
I am very happy with my ASUS RT-N66U. It's dual band, which can be useful though not that big a deal. Squeezeboxes only work on the 2.4GHz band of course. I use the 5GHz band for iphones, ipad etc, but it doesn't have the range of the 2.4GHz, though there's a lot less noise.

I use the router with modified firmware from http://asuswrt.lostrealm.ca/. It is however quite old now, so there may be newer models to consider.

Final point - positioning in the home is really important - I ended up drilling holes in floorboards and running a long network cable underneath to place the router in the middle of the house - the cable entry point is almost never the right place for the router.

Mnyb
2015-06-07, 00:17
I have a Linksys WRT 1900 AC it works as expected dual band etc . it has vlan and open vpn .

But a bit expensive and since i havent got into any trouble with it or living in a large house ( 80 square meter flat , 80 square meter = 861.112 833 34 square foot ) , I cant really say i reached any limit of this product .
Router is in my closet/storage room about 1,5 m from the ground so it always have to penetrate a dry wall to get reception .

I mean you migth not need the best router if works for you .

But buying into more professional stuff might be a good idea , setup can be more complex but you are in controll vs home stuff where things are automatic (meaning the options are hidden and preset to something that usually works ).

A router than can load some of the third party softwares is good I keept my old wrt54gl running on tomato fw for about 8 years before it finally kicked the bucket .
This time I did not opt for third party router fw realising that i did not do much with anyway .

epoch1970
2015-06-07, 01:59
I'd recommend a good long look at Apple's offering. I've setup a 1 router + 3 APs system recently, using Airport Expresses. While setup was in progress it replaced the Netgear WNDR 4000 I normally use as my AP.
The hockey puck is minuscule but coverage was much, much better. "Zero handoff", the ability to associate seamlessly to the closest AP without disturbing the connection is well implemented (use case: laptop/tablet user streaming a video while moving around the premises).
Setup is easy and stays this way even in a more complex topology like the one I was using. As in all things Apple, it doesn't pretend to do things you don't want; and in the AE's case, some things I wanted (IPv4 DNS, Tx power setting). But the AE is the bottom of the line, and quite inexpensive if you get it from the refurb store. And it's an Airplay target as well.
The Airport Express is quite good at modern things: IPv6, mDNS, DNS-SD, Sleep Proxy.

My frontline router is a PCEngines machine running m0n0wall (showing my age, here...) I like to exert control. I always shunned Apple's networking stuff due to their requirement of a PC or Mac to configure the devices. But iThings everywhere have lifted this objection, and frankly for my next generation of home/office WLAN infra I will most probably ditch Netgear. Complexity doesn't necessarily rhyme with performance.

I picked the AEs for price (refurbished) and aesthetics considerations. My other candidate was Ubiquiti and their Unifi product line. I believe these are also worth a look, if you don't mind office-style flying saucers attached to your ceiling.

My 2cts.

EDIT. You could compound the "home automation" factor in your search, given the lifetime of this type of equipment. Google and Apple have both announced miracles years ago, perhaps we'll start to see actual implementations soon? Also, avoid wifi range extenders. Powerline, MoCa, POF, flat ethernet cables... + AP will serve you better.

callesoroe
2015-06-07, 05:04
Can anyone recommend a n-type router (maybe dual band?) with excellent wifi range?

I'm utterly confused by the myriad of choices and reviews!
I have recently bought a new router. I choose a Netgear Nighthawk 6. Not the cheapest but it runs perfectly. It is a tri-band router. Two 5 ghz and one 2,4 ghz.
I try to have as few devices as possible on my 2,4 ghz Network, so that it is primary reserved for squeezeboxes.

Steve Baumgarten
2015-06-07, 05:57
Could not be happier with my TP-Link C9:

http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-Archer-C9-Wireless-1300Mbps/dp/B00PDLRHFW

Rock solid, unbelievable range. Very clear and simple UI. Doesn't have a billion features but covers all the basics extremely well. (For things like routers I'm happier knowing the firmware is simple and debugged rather than complex and constantly needing updates and tweaks.) I guess it's a bit more expensive than some but it's covering areas of my house that I'd previously needed Powerline Ethernet to reach and supporting quite a few devices simultaneously. Highly recommended.

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> castalla wrote:
>> Can anyone recommend a n-type router (maybe dual band?) with excellent
>> wifi range?
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>> I'm utterly confused by the myriad of choices and reviews!
> I have recently bought a new router. I choose a Netgear Nighthawk 6. Not
> the cheapest but it runs perfectly. It is a tri-band router. Two 5 ghz
> and one 2,4 ghz.
> I try to have as few devices as possible on my 2,4 ghz Network, so that
> it is primary reserved for squeezeboxes.
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mwburfeind
2015-06-08, 10:48
I would recommend Power-line communication (PLC) There are a host of manufacturers that make these and are a great way to over come the limits of WIFI

you can read a lot of great info about PLC's here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power-line_communication

TomAmes
2015-06-08, 17:21
I am very happy with my ASUS RT-N66U. It's dual band, which can be useful though not that big a deal. Squeezeboxes only work on the 2.4GHz band of course. I use the 5GHz band for iphones, ipad etc, but it doesn't have the range of the 2.4GHz, though there's a lot less noise.

I use the router with modified firmware from http://asuswrt.lostrealm.ca/. It is however quite old now, so there may be newer models to consider.

Final point - positioning in the home is really important - I ended up drilling holes in floorboards and running a long network cable underneath to place the router in the middle of the house - the cable entry point is almost never the right place for the router.

I have two of these, both flashed with Merlin firmware. One is set up as a wireless access point. Never a problem with either, but, as stated, a bit dated now.

reinholdk
2015-06-09, 08:32
Never a problem with either, but, as stated, a bit dated now.
I'm also using two of them as APs. The fact that the model is a bit dated now is IMO an advantage because of the reduced price.