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Uliver
2015-02-04, 06:47
Hello,
I want to set up a low cost,low energy computer to run squeeze-center
Having 5 squeezeboxes at home.
What will still run this fluidly?
asrock-c70m1 with amd c70 cpu with 4 gb ram
will this work is better to take a stronger option?
thanks for the ideas
Uliver

jeremy
2015-02-04, 07:24
Hello,
I want to set up a low cost,low energy computer to run squeeze-center
Having 5 squeezeboxes at home.
What will still run this fluidly?
asrock-c70m1 with amd c70 cpu with 4 gb ram
will this work is better to take a stronger option?
thanks for the ideas
Uliver

Looks ok but I'd go with an Odroid http://www.hardkernel.com/main/products/prdt_info.php?g_code=g138745696275 paired with Squeezeplug ready made linux/LMS image http://www.squeezeplug.eu/ as an easier option if you are not a linux wizard. Mine runs fast & without any problems

chrissy
2015-02-04, 07:27
Hi,

I have a cubietruck with a 2 TB Harddisk for 5 Boxes. Works perfectly as server and player and is very low on energy.

Greets
Chris

Uliver
2015-02-04, 08:07
thanx for the ideas
But maybe i should ask different
What cpu power do i need to run it fast and error free
I play most songs as flac and that results in large files and libery
Is this c70 powerful enough?

callesoroe
2015-02-04, 08:26
Hello,
I want to set up a low cost,low energy computer to run squeeze-center
Having 5 squeezeboxes at home.
What will still run this fluidly?
asrock-c70m1 with amd c70 cpu with 4 gb ram
will this work is better to take a stronger option?
thanks for the ideas
Uliver
Why not buy a used ReadyNas Ultra/pro.... ? Much easier and runs perfectly. Then your LMS is always there and you can set timer in the ReadyNas to stop/start.

Uliver
2015-02-04, 08:41
Why not buy a used ReadyNas Ultra/pro.... ? Much easier and runs perfectly. Then your LMS is always there and you can set timer in the ReadyNas to stop/start.


i never tried to use a nas.
when i wanted to buy one a few years ago i was told it was better to use
a pc system. The lack of cpu power and mostly the lack of sufficient memory
would be hard with large liberies and music in flac and multi squeezeboxes.

chrissy
2015-02-04, 08:50
Hi,
You don't need much cpu power to run LMS. Especially not if you use flac, since flac is natively supported by all squeezeboxes. If you use not natively supported file formats, you need cpupower for transcoding of lms. Also if you play resolutions that are not supported, for example 24/96 on a boom or radio, you need cpu power for resampling. Since I use only flacs and don't play highres to not natively supported devices, the cubie is great. I have a larger server with an intel celeron which has enough power for all the transcoding stuff, but it is not in use as a squeezserver. On the cubie, a full scan of about 21000 files takes about 1/2 hour. If you want it faster, you need more power.

A NAS is only useful, if you need the diskspace.

Greets
Chris

d6jg
2015-02-04, 11:43
I have been using an Arm QNAP NAS for some years but I am currently in the process of converting to a Vortexbox running on an old Dell Server but with the files still stored on the NAS via NFS mount. Scan speed is about twice as fast on the Dell as it is on the QNAP but the Dell doesn't have the same disk capacity.
The Vortexbox CD ripper rips straight to the share on the QNAP.
Personally I would avoid anything that relies on USB storage. Have found that USB disks often go "offline" and require disconnection, server reboot and then reconnection to get them recognised again. This is with all sorts of different Linux distros.

markiii
2015-02-04, 13:33
Hmm your doing, just what I'm looking to move to.

Any benefit to an nfs share rather than samba?

poing
2015-02-04, 13:37
Is this c70 powerful enough?
I don't know the benchmark scores on top of my head. However, keep in mind that this is essentially AMD's answer to Intel's Atom platform. And AMD's strong suit is graphics which is irrelevant for running Logitech Media Server. On the other hand, Intel's strong suit is traditional CPU-based computation (relevant for running LMS).

So, generally speaking, I think you get more bang for your buck by going the Atom route rather than the AMD Fusion/Ontario route.

But yeah, I think this system would be powerful enough for your purposes.

d6jg
2015-02-04, 13:45
Hmm your doing, just what I'm looking to move to.

Any benefit to an nfs share rather than samba?

Yes. NFS is much faster.
Hacking the Vortexbox (2.3) install was really quite easy.
The QNAP folder /share/Qmultimedia is still available via Samba as well for windows clients. The important bit to get right is the file permissions and ownership so that LMS, the VB CD ripper and Samba all work as you would want.
I wrote a short HowTo which you can find on the Vortexbox forum.

Mnyb
2015-02-05, 22:12
My pow .

Use something x86 based ,use internal SATA drive one separate drive for the OS ( not just its own partition ) other drives for the music . The OS drive can be an SSD .

Use vortexbox or some linux OS on your own , preferably annOS wihtout Desktop ( GUI ) a server OS . You will admin it trough web interfaces and ssh anyway .

My HP Microserver is fast enough , today I would have opted for more RAM as the later LMS 7.9 can take advantage of that .

So basically in my pow a dual core atom or better is sufficient as a server .

And the good old x86 architecture has good FPU and supports most of the helper ap's that LMS uses ,this will mean that you're guaranteed to be able to use LMS fulll potential .

Maybe time has moved one and everything is aviable for the arm architecture ?

poing
2015-02-05, 23:22
Maybe time has moved one and everything is aviable for the arm architecture ?
Personally, I'm still on the fence on this one. Sure, for a client, ARM is the way to go. But for a server, it's more difficult.

On x86, Atom is an option that's certainly on par or better performance-wise than ARM. (Part of the reason is that most SBCs use fairly outdated SoCs.) And even ultrabook processors (Haswell or Broadwell microarchitecture) like the i3-4005U are interesting options. You get massively more performance than with ARM. But their power consumption is quite low. E.g., the aforementioned i3-4005U has 15 W TDP but uses far less (more like 5 W) in real life.

And Broadwell reduces power consumption even more. So I'm really contemplating putting my LMS on a Broadwell-based Intel NUC. They are expected to become available by the end of February.

Bottom line: Performance of x86 is better than that of ARM, power consumption is fine on both platforms. Of course, the main advantage of ARM is price.

I prefer to put my data on a NAS, though. It gives me redundancy, comfortable backup solutions, and a stable, secure platform that's heavily optimized towards file storage and file server needs.

doctor_big
2015-02-07, 06:28
If your library is >100k tracks, I suggest 2+gb of ram.