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Dan Masi
2004-12-06, 11:52
Hi, all-

I've been waiting to jump into squeezemania; looks like a nice solution and I'm ready to order a wireless Squeezebox. However, I'm setting up a WPA network and my understanding is that WPA is currently unsupported.

Does anyone have any idea:

1) if WPA support will eventually come in the form of new software/firmware, or will a hardware change be required (i.e. can I safely buy a unit now and have it soon work with WPA?

2) anyone heard a timeline on WPA support?

Thanks,

-dan

tim
2005-01-29, 12:37
Me Too!
I'd buy another wireless squeezebox if it supported WPA. Just upgraded my
nework and I'm using this protocol for security reasons.

Anyone else?
--tim

"Dan Masi" <danmasi (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> wrote in
message
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> Hi, all-
>
> I've been waiting to jump into squeezemania; looks like a nice solution
> and I'm ready to order a wireless Squeezebox. However, I'm setting up a
> WPA network and my understanding is that WPA is currently unsupported.
>
> Does anyone have any idea:
>
> 1) if WPA support will eventually come in the form of new
> software/firmware, or will a hardware change be required (i.e. can I
> safely buy a unit now and have it soon work with WPA?
>
> 2) anyone heard a timeline on WPA support?
>
> Thanks,
>
> -dan

Kevin O. Lepard
2005-01-29, 18:35
>Me Too!
>I'd buy another wireless squeezebox if it supported WPA. Just upgraded my
>nework and I'm using this protocol for security reasons.

Would love WPA and native client side FLAC decoding to appear.

In the interim, it isn't very difficult to run a secure WPA network
for your data and a separate network for your Squeezeboxes.

Kevin
--
Kevin O. Lepard
kolepard (AT) charter (DOT) net

Happiness is being 100% Microsoft free.

tim
2005-01-29, 19:12
Two wireless AP's?

"Kevin O. Lepard" <kolepard (AT) charter (DOT) net> wrote
in message news:p06210202be21ea3172c7@[192.168.123.157]...
> >Me Too!
>>I'd buy another wireless squeezebox if it supported WPA. Just upgraded my
>>nework and I'm using this protocol for security reasons.
>
> Would love WPA and native client side FLAC decoding to appear.
>
> In the interim, it isn't very difficult to run a secure WPA network for
> your data and a separate network for your Squeezeboxes.
>
> Kevin
> --
> Kevin O. Lepard
> kolepard (AT) charter (DOT) net
>
> Happiness is being 100% Microsoft free.

Bill Burns
2005-01-29, 19:30
Kevin O. Lepard wrote:

>> I'd buy another wireless squeezebox if it supported WPA. Just
>> upgraded my
>> nework and I'm using this protocol for security reasons.
>
>
> Would love WPA and native client side FLAC decoding to appear.
>
> In the interim, it isn't very difficult to run a secure WPA network for
> your data and a separate network for your Squeezeboxes.

No disrespect to Slim's integrated 802.11b, but for about the same price
you can get a wired Squeezebox and an 802.11g access point. If you ever
upgrade your network your SB will then not be obsoleted.

--
Bill Burns
Long Island NY USA
mailto:billb (AT) ftldesign (DOT) com

kdf
2005-01-29, 19:30
Quoting tim <tlimon (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>:

> Two wireless AP's?

sure. i do that right now with a G and B network. My ibook uses the G router,
set to operate with G only on channel 11. I have an older B AP to deal with 3
wireless squeezeboxen on channel 6.

I use 128Bit WEP and MAC Filterning.

-kdf

Kevin O. Lepard
2005-01-29, 20:56
>> In the interim, it isn't very difficult to run a secure WPA network for
>> your data and a separate network for your Squeezeboxes.

>Two wireless AP's?

That's where I was going, but wasn't really explicit about. You can
set up 2 wireless APs, run one as 802.11b for the Squeezeboxes, and
then a separate one for 802.11g. You just have to use
non-overlapping channels.

This has the added advantage of not having "b" clients slowing
anotherwise "g" network.

Security wise, I don't worry much about someone cracking my WEP
encrypted, streamed music. And the music server is dedicated to that
function, nothing else, so that doesn't concern me, either.

Kevin
--
Kevin O. Lepard
kolepard (AT) charter (DOT) net

Happiness is being 100% Microsoft free.

Jack Coates
2005-01-29, 22:13
Bill Burns wrote:
> Kevin O. Lepard wrote:
>
>>> I'd buy another wireless squeezebox if it supported WPA. Just
>>> upgraded my
>>> nework and I'm using this protocol for security reasons.
>>
>>
>>
>> Would love WPA and native client side FLAC decoding to appear.
>>
>> In the interim, it isn't very difficult to run a secure WPA network
>> for your data and a separate network for your Squeezeboxes.
>
>
> No disrespect to Slim's integrated 802.11b, but for about the same price
> you can get a wired Squeezebox and an 802.11g access point. If you ever
> upgrade your network your SB will then not be obsoleted.
>

wired also has the advantage of costing less and working better. The
hassle of stringing a piece of ethernet is minor compared to the hassle
of figuring out what's not working in a wireless network.

--
Jack at Monkeynoodle dot Org: It's a Scientific Venture...
Riding the Emergency Third Rail Power Trip since 1996!

Kevin O. Lepard
2005-01-29, 22:38
>wired also has the advantage of costing less and working better.

No argument there.

>The hassle of stringing a piece of ethernet is minor compared to the
>hassle of figuring out what's not working in a wireless network.

I tend to think that is usually but not always the case. YMMV, of course. :-)

Kevin
--
Kevin O. Lepard
kolepard (AT) charter (DOT) net

Happiness is being 100% Microsoft free.

Geoff Bonallack
2005-01-31, 10:03
>wired also has the advantage of costing less and working better.

Plus, you can listen to music and cook... er, microwave, at the same time...

tim
2005-02-02, 07:46
Okay, but it still stands that some of us don't enjoy schlepping CAT5 under
the house. You guys al raised good points about reliability, but from a
marketing perspective do they want to print those on the box?

"spend 80 more for another AP to enable WPA!" Wow!

Slim devices seems commited to supporting secure wireless as evidenced by
their support of 802.11b with WEP. They are commited to harware upgrades to
keep the cutting edge as evidenced by the new display. Server upgrades have
made this the most stable platform ever.

All I'm asking is for some one to take note that WPA(and wireless g!) are
other ways of improving the product and helping differentiate it from all
the other wireless music players our there.


"Geoff Bonallack" <geoffbon (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote
in message news:db6b1e4105013109036232df20 (AT) mail (DOT) gmail.com...
> >wired also has the advantage of costing less and working better.
>
> Plus, you can listen to music and cook... er, microwave, at the same
> time...

kdf
2005-02-02, 10:43
Quoting tim <tlimon (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>:
> Slim devices seems commited to supporting secure wireless as evidenced by
> their support of 802.11b with WEP. They are commited to harware upgrades to
> keep the cutting edge as evidenced by the new display. Server upgrades have
> made this the most stable platform ever.
>
> All I'm asking is for some one to take note that WPA(and wireless g!) are
> other ways of improving the product and helping differentiate it from all
> the other wireless music players our there.

I am sure its been noted. As has been posted previously, 802.11G is not
something that can be upgraded in the squeezebox. The CPU bus is not up to the
requirements. This being the case, it would mean a heardware change. Slim
Devices makes it a policy not to comment on hardware changes. As such, you may
not hear from them on this issue one way or the other.

If it matters, the history has shown the Slim Devices care very much about
making the product better and appreciate that that customer input can help to
achieve that.

-kdf

Bruce Tucker
2005-02-02, 11:03
I've been working on getting the AlienBBC plugin to work on my WinXP system
and I'm still stuck at the point where the plugin seems to work, but the
streams won't play. With Triode's help, we have identified at least one
problem: WMA files or streams won't play at all. Any ideas on what to do
next?

Bruce

tim
2005-02-02, 23:28
Agreed,
After I wrote the post I realized that your competitors read the NG too.
One must be careful not to tip ones hand in such a world. Thanks for the
response. I look forward to the next iteration!
--tim

"kdf" <slim-mail (AT) deane-freeman (DOT) com> wrote in
message news:1107366192.420111306ce3d (AT) callisto (DOT) deane-freeman.com...
Quoting tim <tlimon (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>:
> Slim devices seems commited to supporting secure wireless as evidenced by
> their support of 802.11b with WEP. They are commited to harware upgrades
> to
> keep the cutting edge as evidenced by the new display. Server upgrades
> have
> made this the most stable platform ever.
>
> All I'm asking is for some one to take note that WPA(and wireless g!) are
> other ways of improving the product and helping differentiate it from all
> the other wireless music players our there.

I am sure its been noted. As has been posted previously, 802.11G is not
something that can be upgraded in the squeezebox. The CPU bus is not up to
the
requirements. This being the case, it would mean a heardware change. Slim
Devices makes it a policy not to comment on hardware changes. As such, you
may
not hear from them on this issue one way or the other.

If it matters, the history has shown the Slim Devices care very much about
making the product better and appreciate that that customer input can help
to
achieve that.

-kdf