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Mike Hartley
2004-12-02, 17:26
Jason,
Yeah, I know. But only for the time being. I'm interested in Linux/Open Source. It's actually one of the things that attracts me to this product. I'll use the WMA option throguht the first of the year, then look at doing a linux server. Might have to ask for some help though.

Mike



-----Original Message-----
From: Jason [mailto:jason (AT) pagefamily (DOT) net]
Sent: Thu 12/2/2004 4:16 PM
To: 'Slim Devices Discussion'
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Subject: RE: [slim] Question regarding formats, compressionandConnectingSBtoanAV receiver



Mike,

If you stick with WMA then you will have to scratch the Linux idea, WMA
conversion only works with Windows as the server.

-J

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hartley
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 12:36 PM
To: Slim Devices Discussion
Subject: Re: [slim] Question regarding formats,
compressionandConnectingSBtoan AV receiver

Danny,
Given the technical advice I've gotten, I will probably stick to the WMA
format for now. I have always thought it sounded better than MP3. But the
CODEC isn't the issue for me, it's the company that makes it. ;-)

Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: "Danny Rego" <danny (AT) rego (DOT) com>
To: "Slim Devices Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 1:54 PM
Subject: Re: [slim] Question regarding formats, compression
andConnectingSBtoan AV receiver


> Not to get into a war here, but I actually prefer WMA for compressed
> audio as well. It never seems to have that "washy" sound that typical
MP3s do.
I
> am probably going to re-rip my CD collection in WMA lossless, as soon
> as
> 300+gb hard drives are a little cheaper.
>
> Anyways...not starting a war...just sharing an opinion.
>
> Danny Rego
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Hartley" <mhartley (AT) comsolusa (DOT) com>
> To: "Slim Devices Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 11:07 AM
> Subject: Re: [slim] Question regarding formats, compression and
> ConnectingSBtoan AV receiver
>
>
> > Jason,
> > I agree about WMA....I'm not a big Microsoft fan. Blame it on being
young
> > and naive when I started putting music on my PC LOL. At least I had
since
> > enough to turn the protect content flag OFF when I copied everything.
But
> > from a quality standpoint, their lossless is actually good. I saw a
CODEC
> > Shootout (I think at Extremetech of ARS Technica) and the reviewer
> > (and frankly me as well) was surprised to find that it really was
> > lossless,
bit
> > for bit. As for the receiver, yes it is midrange but the DSP is
identical
> > to Yamahas most expensive, and the DAC's are identical to all but
> > their two most expensive and have a good rep. And besides, Analog
> > is SOOOO yesterday..... ;-) Actually, I can hook up both the analog
> > and digital out's simultaneously on this receiver and flip back and
> > forth, so I'll
be
> > able to really test whether I can hear a difference or not. As for
> > the server, I've got a spare PC (1.2 GHx with 512 MB RAM) that I
> > plan to
throw
> > on the network as a dedicated music server. Do you think this will
> > fit the bill? Thanks for the input. I apprecite it!
> > Mike
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jason" <jason (AT) pagefamily (DOT) net>
> > To: "'Slim Devices Discussion'" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 10:18 AM
> > Subject: RE: [slim] Question regarding formats, compression and
Connecting
> > SBtoan AV receiver
> >
> >
> >> Rip to FLAC, WMA is for chumps. ;) If you really need lossy
compression
> >> (as I do) then go to a higher quality MP3 format (Lame APX) or Ogg
> >> Vorbis.
> >>
> >> As for audio quality, you have a mid level receiver and you might
notice
> >> a
> >> very slight improvement in the sound when you use either of the
> >> Squeezebox digital outputs but it certainly won't be a night or day
> >> difference.
If
> >> really high quality sound is your goal then consider upgrading your
> > speakers
> >> first (if they aren't up to snuff) and then maybe get a punchier
> >> amplifier.... Last thing on your shopping list should be an
> >> outboard
DAC
> > if
> >> you really want to take it that far.
> >>
> >> Be aware that if you don't have a solid wireless network and a GOOD
> >> server then streaming FLAC can be an excersize in frustration as
> >> you can have dropouts via either the wireless network or your
> >> server getting
> > bottlenecked
> >> with other tasks and not giving the Slim Server software enough
priority.
> >>
> >> -J
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
> >> [mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com] On Behalf Of Mike
Hartley
> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 6:26 PM
> >> To: discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
> >> Subject: [slim] Question regarding formats, compression and
> >> Connecting
SB
> >> toan AV receiver
> >>
> >> I'm seriously thinking of purchasing a Squeezebox to connect to a
Yamaha
> >> HTR-5790 Surround receiver. I want to connect via Digital Co-ax or
> > Optical,
> >> and am interested in getting the best sound fidelity possible possible.
> >> Although I can connect via coax, it will be very difficult
> >> logistically to do so, so I really need to utilize a wireless
> >> connection back to my
music
> >> server so I plan to use an 802.11b wireless router. Currently, I
> >> have
my
> >> music collection in WMA, highest quality format, with no file
protection.
> >>
> >> Originally, my plan was to stream the existing files to the SB via
> > wireless
> >> and have it output via either the co-ax or optical digital
> >> connector to my receiver and let the receivers DAC's handle the DA
> >> conversion.
However,
> >> I
> >> have seen some posts that indicate that this is probably not the
> >> best
way
> > to
> >> accomplish my goal because the Slimserver application actually
> >> converts
> > the
> >> WMA file to an MP3 stream which then has to be converted to an
> >> SPDIF compatible output at the device. Is this correct? If not
> >> can someone briefly explain what the device does in this scenario?
> >> Is this
> > arrangement
> >> ever going to result in good music results or always be one of
compromise
> >> due to multiple conversions of the file?
> >>
> >> Given that it's really important to me to have the output from the
> >> SB
in
> >> a
> >> format that my receiver can handle on it's own (I know some people
claim
> >> they cannot hear a difference between the SB's DAC and analog
> >> output,
but
> > I
> >> think the DAC's in my receiver should give higher fidelity and
> >> using them will avoid reprossessing) I am willing to re-rip all of
> >> my CD's to another format and even move to a dedicated server(I
> >> have a spare unused PC).
> >> Storage space isn't unlimited, but I am willing to add disk space.
It's
> >> relatively cheap. But before I go to that trouble, I wanted to "go
> >> to
the
> >> source" and ask for some opinions/recommendations here. Any input
> >> is welcome and greatly appreciated.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>