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Ralph Edington
2004-12-02, 12:30
Thanks for the words of support. I still can't find the relevant info in
gmane using search terms that make sense to me. And I KNOW you'll be
SHOCKED if I admit that I don't personally read & remember every word of
every message in every thread ;o)

Unless you're thinking of the thread where people discussed built-in
speakers, which I read with great interest -- but a different form factor
would seem to be a far cry from giving people an all-in-one "boombox"
squeezebox...

But hey, of course I expected to be slammed a little. You can't be on a
forum and have a thin skin, can you?

Having said all that, I have to disagree with your comparison with Apple and
Palm. New technology updates will of course make the older versions
unwanted, but a new form factor with the same technology would simply give
consumers a choice -- I don't think demand for the original form factor
would drop to where they couldn't sell them. But if it did -- so, then,
take the guts out of the old cases, put them into new cases, and sell them!
Of course here I'm envisioning that the guts would be swappable. Which
brings to mind -- how about a form-factor "upgrade" kit? Taking it one step
further -- how about I just make my own form factor out of, say, teak and
brushed steel, and move the guts over myself? 'Fess up now -- has anybody
already done that?

OK, it's obvious now the morning coffee is really kicking in -- signing
off...

RE

-----Original Message-----
From: discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
[mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com] On Behalf Of Anthony James
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 8:06 AM
To: Slim Devices Discussion
Subject: [slim] Form factor?


On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 10:24:30 -0500, David Jameson <david (AT) digiportal (DOT) com>
wrote:
> While I understand completely the policy - it does cause interesting
> issues because there's no way to know whether to hold off and wait for
> your new box or commit to something else.

and that's part of the point. Witness the problems Apple and Palm have had
in the past - announce your new upgraded product and kill demand in the
short term, leaving you with lots of unsold, devalued,
inventory. Add to that the likely unforseen delays a small co has in
bringing something to market and you kill your market for longer, cutting
off your cashflow.

My conclusion? Slim will have to evolve their hardware to compete against
new entrants. The current product is great, the ones that are not yet
released will be better but that's the same dilemma you have when buying a
digital camera or a PC.

I don't think you deserved the harsh words for bringing this up but it was
discussed in the last week or so. However, guessing the right search terms
for gmane was probably not easy and "form factor" wouldnt have done it and
the first few terms i've tried haven't returned the previous discussions in
the archive for me either

kdf
2004-12-02, 14:01
Quoting Ralph Edington <ralph (AT) edington (DOT) com>:

> Thanks for the words of support. I still can't find the relevant info in
> gmane using search terms that make sense to me. And I KNOW you'll be
> SHOCKED if I admit that I don't personally read & remember every word of
> every message in every thread ;o)
>
> Unless you're thinking of the thread where people discussed built-in
> speakers, which I read with great interest -- but a different form factor
> would seem to be a far cry from giving people an all-in-one "boombox"
> squeezebox...
>
> But hey, of course I expected to be slammed a little. You can't be on a
> forum and have a thin skin, can you?

not to be pedantic, but you weren't actually slammed. I stated two facts. One,
that this has been discussed before. Two, that slimdevices does't comment. In
fact, I think none of the slimdevices gang has recently even commented on not
commenting :) The reaction is always the same, some get upset by it, some
respect it. When new hardware comes out, some are excited some angry. Everyone
who asks about a rack case is noted, I'm sure. Fro those who ask why there
isn't one now, there just is't an answer.

As for where to find the discussions, I go back on this list to the yahoo groups
days, so perhaps I've heard it more than others :)

>
> Having said all that, I have to disagree with your comparison with Apple and
> Palm. New technology updates will of course make the older versions
> unwanted, but a new form factor with the same technology would simply give
> consumers a choice -- I don't think demand for the original form factor
> would drop to where they couldn't sell them. But if it did -- so, then,
> take the guts out of the old cases, put them into new cases, and sell them!
> Of course here I'm envisioning that the guts would be swappable. Which
> brings to mind -- how about a form-factor "upgrade" kit? Taking it one step
> further -- how about I just make my own form factor out of, say, teak and
> brushed steel, and move the guts over myself? 'Fess up now -- has anybody
> already done that?

a couple case mods are linked here under Hardware Mods:
http://www.slimdevices.com/dev_plugins.html

-kdf

stephen van vuuren
2004-12-02, 16:13
I set up my first Sqeezebox yesterday, wired, and had playback
glitches on everything (Softsqueeze plays fine) in music library (7K
songs in artist and album folders). Slimserver runs on W2K3 server,
2.4 GHz, HT, 1GB RAM, but lots of other stuff running. I seemed to
have solved 99% of the issues by setting priority to background
services, but noticed that when playing files (all are WMA VBR) CPU
usage is very low 5-15%.

Has anyone tried boosting thread priority of slim.exe to improve perfomance?

thanks,


On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 21:03:31 -0000, Roger Mitchell
<rog.mitchell (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
> Ralph
>
> I searched using Outlook Express and there are a number of discussions on
> the subject and there are number of people that have succeeded (and probably
> a number who haven't) I particularly liked this one:
>
> http://www.moyo.me.uk/squeeze
>
> I know, it's a 19" rack!
>
> I thought this was a cracking good job and was well discussed in these pages
> around 27.9.04. There are lots of other discussion threads on this issue but
> you need to dig deep and I found the most reliable searches were made
> through Outlook Express. Just my preference and works for me before anybody
> jumps on my case.
>
> Regards
> Roger, Newbury, UK
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
> [mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com] On Behalf Of Ralph Edington
> Sent: 02 December 2004 19:31
> To: 'Slim Devices Discussion'
> Subject: [slim] Form factor?
>
> Thanks for the words of support. I still can't find the relevant info in
> gmane using search terms that make sense to me. And I KNOW you'll be
> SHOCKED if I admit that I don't personally read & remember every word of
> every message in every thread ;o)
>
> Unless you're thinking of the thread where people discussed built-in
> speakers, which I read with great interest -- but a different form factor
> would seem to be a far cry from giving people an all-in-one "boombox"
> squeezebox...
>
> But hey, of course I expected to be slammed a little. You can't be on a
> forum and have a thin skin, can you?
>
> Having said all that, I have to disagree with your comparison with Apple and
> Palm. New technology updates will of course make the older versions
> unwanted, but a new form factor with the same technology would simply give
> consumers a choice -- I don't think demand for the original form factor
> would drop to where they couldn't sell them. But if it did -- so, then,
> take the guts out of the old cases, put them into new cases, and sell them!
> Of course here I'm envisioning that the guts would be swappable. Which
> brings to mind -- how about a form-factor "upgrade" kit? Taking it one step
> further -- how about I just make my own form factor out of, say, teak and
> brushed steel, and move the guts over myself? 'Fess up now -- has anybody
> already done that?
>
> OK, it's obvious now the morning coffee is really kicking in -- signing
> off...
>
> RE
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
> [mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com] On Behalf Of Anthony James
> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 8:06 AM
> To: Slim Devices Discussion
> Subject: [slim] Form factor?
>
> On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 10:24:30 -0500, David Jameson <david (AT) digiportal (DOT) com>
> wrote:
> > While I understand completely the policy - it does cause interesting
> > issues because there's no way to know whether to hold off and wait for
> > your new box or commit to something else.
>
> and that's part of the point. Witness the problems Apple and Palm have had
> in the past - announce your new upgraded product and kill demand in the
> short term, leaving you with lots of unsold, devalued,
> inventory. Add to that the likely unforseen delays a small co has in
> bringing something to market and you kill your market for longer, cutting
> off your cashflow.
>
> My conclusion? Slim will have to evolve their hardware to compete against
> new entrants. The current product is great, the ones that are not yet
> released will be better but that's the same dilemma you have when buying a
> digital camera or a PC.
>
> I don't think you deserved the harsh words for bringing this up but it was
> discussed in the last week or so. However, guessing the right search terms
> for gmane was probably not easy and "form factor" wouldnt have done it and
> the first few terms i've tried haven't returned the previous discussions in
> the archive for me either

dean
2004-12-03, 12:58
I also found that this helped in several cases for me, but couldn't
find a way to have it install as higher priority. Anybody with
stronger Windows powers know more?


On Dec 2, 2004, at 3:13 PM, stephen van vuuren wrote:

> I set up my first Sqeezebox yesterday, wired, and had playback
> glitches on everything (Softsqueeze plays fine) in music library (7K
> songs in artist and album folders). Slimserver runs on W2K3 server,
> 2.4 GHz, HT, 1GB RAM, but lots of other stuff running. I seemed to
> have solved 99% of the issues by setting priority to background
> services, but noticed that when playing files (all are WMA VBR) CPU
> usage is very low 5-15%.
>
> Has anyone tried boosting thread priority of slim.exe to improve
> perfomance?
>
> thanks,
>
>
> On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 21:03:31 -0000, Roger Mitchell
> <rog.mitchell (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
>> Ralph
>>
>> I searched using Outlook Express and there are a number of
>> discussions on
>> the subject and there are number of people that have succeeded (and
>> probably
>> a number who haven't) I particularly liked this one:
>>
>> http://www.moyo.me.uk/squeeze
>>
>> I know, it's a 19" rack!
>>
>> I thought this was a cracking good job and was well discussed in
>> these pages
>> around 27.9.04. There are lots of other discussion threads on this
>> issue but
>> you need to dig deep and I found the most reliable searches were made
>> through Outlook Express. Just my preference and works for me before
>> anybody
>> jumps on my case.
>>
>> Regards
>> Roger, Newbury, UK
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
>> [mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com] On Behalf Of Ralph
>> Edington
>> Sent: 02 December 2004 19:31
>> To: 'Slim Devices Discussion'
>> Subject: [slim] Form factor?
>>
>> Thanks for the words of support. I still can't find the relevant
>> info in
>> gmane using search terms that make sense to me. And I KNOW you'll be
>> SHOCKED if I admit that I don't personally read & remember every word
>> of
>> every message in every thread ;o)
>>
>> Unless you're thinking of the thread where people discussed built-in
>> speakers, which I read with great interest -- but a different form
>> factor
>> would seem to be a far cry from giving people an all-in-one "boombox"
>> squeezebox...
>>
>> But hey, of course I expected to be slammed a little. You can't be
>> on a
>> forum and have a thin skin, can you?
>>
>> Having said all that, I have to disagree with your comparison with
>> Apple and
>> Palm. New technology updates will of course make the older versions
>> unwanted, but a new form factor with the same technology would simply
>> give
>> consumers a choice -- I don't think demand for the original form
>> factor
>> would drop to where they couldn't sell them. But if it did -- so,
>> then,
>> take the guts out of the old cases, put them into new cases, and sell
>> them!
>> Of course here I'm envisioning that the guts would be swappable. Which
>> brings to mind -- how about a form-factor "upgrade" kit? Taking it
>> one step
>> further -- how about I just make my own form factor out of, say, teak
>> and
>> brushed steel, and move the guts over myself? 'Fess up now -- has
>> anybody
>> already done that?
>>
>> OK, it's obvious now the morning coffee is really kicking in --
>> signing
>> off...
>>
>> RE
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
>> [mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com] On Behalf Of Anthony
>> James
>> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 8:06 AM
>> To: Slim Devices Discussion
>> Subject: [slim] Form factor?
>>
>> On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 10:24:30 -0500, David Jameson
>> <david (AT) digiportal (DOT) com>
>> wrote:
>>> While I understand completely the policy - it does cause interesting
>>> issues because there's no way to know whether to hold off and wait
>>> for
>>> your new box or commit to something else.
>>
>> and that's part of the point. Witness the problems Apple and Palm
>> have had
>> in the past - announce your new upgraded product and kill demand in
>> the
>> short term, leaving you with lots of unsold, devalued,
>> inventory. Add to that the likely unforseen delays a small co has in
>> bringing something to market and you kill your market for longer,
>> cutting
>> off your cashflow.
>>
>> My conclusion? Slim will have to evolve their hardware to compete
>> against
>> new entrants. The current product is great, the ones that are not yet
>> released will be better but that's the same dilemma you have when
>> buying a
>> digital camera or a PC.
>>
>> I don't think you deserved the harsh words for bringing this up but
>> it was
>> discussed in the last week or so. However, guessing the right search
>> terms
>> for gmane was probably not easy and "form factor" wouldnt have done
>> it and
>> the first few terms i've tried haven't returned the previous
>> discussions in
>> the archive for me either
>>

stephen van vuuren
2004-12-03, 16:20
http://arstechnica.com/guides/tweaks/memory-1.ars/2?9955

On Fri, 3 Dec 2004 11:58:22 -0800, dean blackketter
<dean (AT) slimdevices (DOT) com> wrote:
> I also found that this helped in several cases for me, but couldn't
> find a way to have it install as higher priority. Anybody with
> stronger Windows powers know more?
>
>
>
>
> On Dec 2, 2004, at 3:13 PM, stephen van vuuren wrote:
>
> > I set up my first Sqeezebox yesterday, wired, and had playback
> > glitches on everything (Softsqueeze plays fine) in music library (7K
> > songs in artist and album folders). Slimserver runs on W2K3 server,
> > 2.4 GHz, HT, 1GB RAM, but lots of other stuff running. I seemed to
> > have solved 99% of the issues by setting priority to background
> > services, but noticed that when playing files (all are WMA VBR) CPU
> > usage is very low 5-15%.
> >
> > Has anyone tried boosting thread priority of slim.exe to improve
> > perfomance?
> >
> > thanks,
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 21:03:31 -0000, Roger Mitchell
> > <rog.mitchell (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
> >> Ralph
> >>
> >> I searched using Outlook Express and there are a number of
> >> discussions on
> >> the subject and there are number of people that have succeeded (and
> >> probably
> >> a number who haven't) I particularly liked this one:
> >>
> >> http://www.moyo.me.uk/squeeze
> >>
> >> I know, it's a 19" rack!
> >>
> >> I thought this was a cracking good job and was well discussed in
> >> these pages
> >> around 27.9.04. There are lots of other discussion threads on this
> >> issue but
> >> you need to dig deep and I found the most reliable searches were made
> >> through Outlook Express. Just my preference and works for me before
> >> anybody
> >> jumps on my case.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> Roger, Newbury, UK
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
> >> [mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com] On Behalf Of Ralph
> >> Edington
> >> Sent: 02 December 2004 19:31
> >> To: 'Slim Devices Discussion'
> >> Subject: [slim] Form factor?
> >>
> >> Thanks for the words of support. I still can't find the relevant
> >> info in
> >> gmane using search terms that make sense to me. And I KNOW you'll be
> >> SHOCKED if I admit that I don't personally read & remember every word
> >> of
> >> every message in every thread ;o)
> >>
> >> Unless you're thinking of the thread where people discussed built-in
> >> speakers, which I read with great interest -- but a different form
> >> factor
> >> would seem to be a far cry from giving people an all-in-one "boombox"
> >> squeezebox...
> >>
> >> But hey, of course I expected to be slammed a little. You can't be
> >> on a
> >> forum and have a thin skin, can you?
> >>
> >> Having said all that, I have to disagree with your comparison with
> >> Apple and
> >> Palm. New technology updates will of course make the older versions
> >> unwanted, but a new form factor with the same technology would simply
> >> give
> >> consumers a choice -- I don't think demand for the original form
> >> factor
> >> would drop to where they couldn't sell them. But if it did -- so,
> >> then,
> >> take the guts out of the old cases, put them into new cases, and sell
> >> them!
> >> Of course here I'm envisioning that the guts would be swappable. Which
> >> brings to mind -- how about a form-factor "upgrade" kit? Taking it
> >> one step
> >> further -- how about I just make my own form factor out of, say, teak
> >> and
> >> brushed steel, and move the guts over myself? 'Fess up now -- has
> >> anybody
> >> already done that?
> >>
> >> OK, it's obvious now the morning coffee is really kicking in --
> >> signing
> >> off...
> >>
> >> RE
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
> >> [mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com] On Behalf Of Anthony
> >> James
> >> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 8:06 AM
> >> To: Slim Devices Discussion
> >> Subject: [slim] Form factor?
> >>
> >> On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 10:24:30 -0500, David Jameson
> >> <david (AT) digiportal (DOT) com>
> >> wrote:
> >>> While I understand completely the policy - it does cause interesting
> >>> issues because there's no way to know whether to hold off and wait
> >>> for
> >>> your new box or commit to something else.
> >>
> >> and that's part of the point. Witness the problems Apple and Palm
> >> have had
> >> in the past - announce your new upgraded product and kill demand in
> >> the
> >> short term, leaving you with lots of unsold, devalued,
> >> inventory. Add to that the likely unforseen delays a small co has in
> >> bringing something to market and you kill your market for longer,
> >> cutting
> >> off your cashflow.
> >>
> >> My conclusion? Slim will have to evolve their hardware to compete
> >> against
> >> new entrants. The current product is great, the ones that are not yet
> >> released will be better but that's the same dilemma you have when
> >> buying a
> >> digital camera or a PC.
> >>
> >> I don't think you deserved the harsh words for bringing this up but
> >> it was
> >> discussed in the last week or so. However, guessing the right search
> >> terms
> >> for gmane was probably not easy and "form factor" wouldnt have done
> >> it and
> >> the first few terms i've tried haven't returned the previous
> >> discussions in
> >> the archive for me either
> >>

dean
2004-12-03, 17:04
That works for interactive processes, but SlimServer typically runs as
a service. Ideally, we'd set that priority when the server was
installed as a service, but I haven't found any documentation about how
to do this.


On Dec 3, 2004, at 3:20 PM, stephen van vuuren wrote:

> http://arstechnica.com/guides/tweaks/memory-1.ars/2?9955
>
> On Fri, 3 Dec 2004 11:58:22 -0800, dean blackketter
> <dean (AT) slimdevices (DOT) com> wrote:
>> I also found that this helped in several cases for me, but couldn't
>> find a way to have it install as higher priority. Anybody with
>> stronger Windows powers know more?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Dec 2, 2004, at 3:13 PM, stephen van vuuren wrote:
>>
>>> I set up my first Sqeezebox yesterday, wired, and had playback
>>> glitches on everything (Softsqueeze plays fine) in music library (7K
>>> songs in artist and album folders). Slimserver runs on W2K3 server,
>>> 2.4 GHz, HT, 1GB RAM, but lots of other stuff running. I seemed to
>>> have solved 99% of the issues by setting priority to background
>>> services, but noticed that when playing files (all are WMA VBR) CPU
>>> usage is very low 5-15%.
>>>
>>> Has anyone tried boosting thread priority of slim.exe to improve
>>> perfomance?
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 21:03:31 -0000, Roger Mitchell
>>> <rog.mitchell (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
>>>> Ralph
>>>>
>>>> I searched using Outlook Express and there are a number of
>>>> discussions on
>>>> the subject and there are number of people that have succeeded (and
>>>> probably
>>>> a number who haven't) I particularly liked this one:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.moyo.me.uk/squeeze
>>>>
>>>> I know, it's a 19" rack!
>>>>
>>>> I thought this was a cracking good job and was well discussed in
>>>> these pages
>>>> around 27.9.04. There are lots of other discussion threads on this
>>>> issue but
>>>> you need to dig deep and I found the most reliable searches were
>>>> made
>>>> through Outlook Express. Just my preference and works for me before
>>>> anybody
>>>> jumps on my case.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Roger, Newbury, UK
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
>>>> [mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com] On Behalf Of Ralph
>>>> Edington
>>>> Sent: 02 December 2004 19:31
>>>> To: 'Slim Devices Discussion'
>>>> Subject: [slim] Form factor?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the words of support. I still can't find the relevant
>>>> info in
>>>> gmane using search terms that make sense to me. And I KNOW you'll
>>>> be
>>>> SHOCKED if I admit that I don't personally read & remember every
>>>> word
>>>> of
>>>> every message in every thread ;o)
>>>>
>>>> Unless you're thinking of the thread where people discussed built-in
>>>> speakers, which I read with great interest -- but a different form
>>>> factor
>>>> would seem to be a far cry from giving people an all-in-one
>>>> "boombox"
>>>> squeezebox...
>>>>
>>>> But hey, of course I expected to be slammed a little. You can't be
>>>> on a
>>>> forum and have a thin skin, can you?
>>>>
>>>> Having said all that, I have to disagree with your comparison with
>>>> Apple and
>>>> Palm. New technology updates will of course make the older versions
>>>> unwanted, but a new form factor with the same technology would
>>>> simply
>>>> give
>>>> consumers a choice -- I don't think demand for the original form
>>>> factor
>>>> would drop to where they couldn't sell them. But if it did -- so,
>>>> then,
>>>> take the guts out of the old cases, put them into new cases, and
>>>> sell
>>>> them!
>>>> Of course here I'm envisioning that the guts would be swappable.
>>>> Which
>>>> brings to mind -- how about a form-factor "upgrade" kit? Taking it
>>>> one step
>>>> further -- how about I just make my own form factor out of, say,
>>>> teak
>>>> and
>>>> brushed steel, and move the guts over myself? 'Fess up now -- has
>>>> anybody
>>>> already done that?
>>>>
>>>> OK, it's obvious now the morning coffee is really kicking in --
>>>> signing
>>>> off...
>>>>
>>>> RE
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
>>>> [mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com] On Behalf Of Anthony
>>>> James
>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 8:06 AM
>>>> To: Slim Devices Discussion
>>>> Subject: [slim] Form factor?
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 10:24:30 -0500, David Jameson
>>>> <david (AT) digiportal (DOT) com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> While I understand completely the policy - it does cause
>>>>> interesting
>>>>> issues because there's no way to know whether to hold off and wait
>>>>> for
>>>>> your new box or commit to something else.
>>>>
>>>> and that's part of the point. Witness the problems Apple and Palm
>>>> have had
>>>> in the past - announce your new upgraded product and kill demand in
>>>> the
>>>> short term, leaving you with lots of unsold, devalued,
>>>> inventory. Add to that the likely unforseen delays a small co has
>>>> in
>>>> bringing something to market and you kill your market for longer,
>>>> cutting
>>>> off your cashflow.
>>>>
>>>> My conclusion? Slim will have to evolve their hardware to compete
>>>> against
>>>> new entrants. The current product is great, the ones that are not
>>>> yet
>>>> released will be better but that's the same dilemma you have when
>>>> buying a
>>>> digital camera or a PC.
>>>>
>>>> I don't think you deserved the harsh words for bringing this up but
>>>> it was
>>>> discussed in the last week or so. However, guessing the right
>>>> search
>>>> terms
>>>> for gmane was probably not easy and "form factor" wouldnt have done
>>>> it and
>>>> the first few terms i've tried haven't returned the previous
>>>> discussions in
>>>> the archive for me either
>>>>

stephen van vuuren
2004-12-03, 19:15
I was able to set the higher priority by running it as batch file:

/echo off
start /realtime slimserver.exe

or
start /ultrahigh slimserver.exe or start /high slimserver.exe

note batch file must be located in slimserver folder and this won't
work for running as a service.

However, you can use several "Run As Service" utilities to run this
bat as a service.


On Fri, 3 Dec 2004 16:04:11 -0800, dean blackketter
<dean (AT) slimdevices (DOT) com> wrote:
> That works for interactive processes, but SlimServer typically runs as
> a service. Ideally, we'd set that priority when the server was
> installed as a service, but I haven't found any documentation about how
> to do this.
>
>
>
>
> On Dec 3, 2004, at 3:20 PM, stephen van vuuren wrote:
>
> > http://arstechnica.com/guides/tweaks/memory-1.ars/2?9955
> >
> > On Fri, 3 Dec 2004 11:58:22 -0800, dean blackketter
> > <dean (AT) slimdevices (DOT) com> wrote:
> >> I also found that this helped in several cases for me, but couldn't
> >> find a way to have it install as higher priority. Anybody with
> >> stronger Windows powers know more?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Dec 2, 2004, at 3:13 PM, stephen van vuuren wrote:
> >>
> >>> I set up my first Sqeezebox yesterday, wired, and had playback
> >>> glitches on everything (Softsqueeze plays fine) in music library (7K
> >>> songs in artist and album folders). Slimserver runs on W2K3 server,
> >>> 2.4 GHz, HT, 1GB RAM, but lots of other stuff running. I seemed to
> >>> have solved 99% of the issues by setting priority to background
> >>> services, but noticed that when playing files (all are WMA VBR) CPU
> >>> usage is very low 5-15%.
> >>>
> >>> Has anyone tried boosting thread priority of slim.exe to improve
> >>> perfomance?
> >>>
> >>> thanks,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 21:03:31 -0000, Roger Mitchell
> >>> <rog.mitchell (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
> >>>> Ralph
> >>>>
> >>>> I searched using Outlook Express and there are a number of
> >>>> discussions on
> >>>> the subject and there are number of people that have succeeded (and
> >>>> probably
> >>>> a number who haven't) I particularly liked this one:
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.moyo.me.uk/squeeze
> >>>>
> >>>> I know, it's a 19" rack!
> >>>>
> >>>> I thought this was a cracking good job and was well discussed in
> >>>> these pages
> >>>> around 27.9.04. There are lots of other discussion threads on this
> >>>> issue but
> >>>> you need to dig deep and I found the most reliable searches were
> >>>> made
> >>>> through Outlook Express. Just my preference and works for me before
> >>>> anybody
> >>>> jumps on my case.
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards
> >>>> Roger, Newbury, UK
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
> >>>> [mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com] On Behalf Of Ralph
> >>>> Edington
> >>>> Sent: 02 December 2004 19:31
> >>>> To: 'Slim Devices Discussion'
> >>>> Subject: [slim] Form factor?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks for the words of support. I still can't find the relevant
> >>>> info in
> >>>> gmane using search terms that make sense to me. And I KNOW you'll
> >>>> be
> >>>> SHOCKED if I admit that I don't personally read & remember every
> >>>> word
> >>>> of
> >>>> every message in every thread ;o)
> >>>>
> >>>> Unless you're thinking of the thread where people discussed built-in
> >>>> speakers, which I read with great interest -- but a different form
> >>>> factor
> >>>> would seem to be a far cry from giving people an all-in-one
> >>>> "boombox"
> >>>> squeezebox...
> >>>>
> >>>> But hey, of course I expected to be slammed a little. You can't be
> >>>> on a
> >>>> forum and have a thin skin, can you?
> >>>>
> >>>> Having said all that, I have to disagree with your comparison with
> >>>> Apple and
> >>>> Palm. New technology updates will of course make the older versions
> >>>> unwanted, but a new form factor with the same technology would
> >>>> simply
> >>>> give
> >>>> consumers a choice -- I don't think demand for the original form
> >>>> factor
> >>>> would drop to where they couldn't sell them. But if it did -- so,
> >>>> then,
> >>>> take the guts out of the old cases, put them into new cases, and
> >>>> sell
> >>>> them!
> >>>> Of course here I'm envisioning that the guts would be swappable.
> >>>> Which
> >>>> brings to mind -- how about a form-factor "upgrade" kit? Taking it
> >>>> one step
> >>>> further -- how about I just make my own form factor out of, say,
> >>>> teak
> >>>> and
> >>>> brushed steel, and move the guts over myself? 'Fess up now -- has
> >>>> anybody
> >>>> already done that?
> >>>>
> >>>> OK, it's obvious now the morning coffee is really kicking in --
> >>>> signing
> >>>> off...
> >>>>
> >>>> RE
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
> >>>> [mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com] On Behalf Of Anthony
> >>>> James
> >>>> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 8:06 AM
> >>>> To: Slim Devices Discussion
> >>>> Subject: [slim] Form factor?
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 10:24:30 -0500, David Jameson
> >>>> <david (AT) digiportal (DOT) com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>> While I understand completely the policy - it does cause
> >>>>> interesting
> >>>>> issues because there's no way to know whether to hold off and wait
> >>>>> for
> >>>>> your new box or commit to something else.
> >>>>
> >>>> and that's part of the point. Witness the problems Apple and Palm
> >>>> have had
> >>>> in the past - announce your new upgraded product and kill demand in
> >>>> the
> >>>> short term, leaving you with lots of unsold, devalued,
> >>>> inventory. Add to that the likely unforseen delays a small co has
> >>>> in
> >>>> bringing something to market and you kill your market for longer,
> >>>> cutting
> >>>> off your cashflow.
> >>>>
> >>>> My conclusion? Slim will have to evolve their hardware to compete
> >>>> against
> >>>> new entrants. The current product is great, the ones that are not
> >>>> yet
> >>>> released will be better but that's the same dilemma you have when
> >>>> buying a
> >>>> digital camera or a PC.
> >>>>
> >>>> I don't think you deserved the harsh words for bringing this up but
> >>>> it was
> >>>> discussed in the last week or so. However, guessing the right
> >>>> search
> >>>> terms
> >>>> for gmane was probably not easy and "form factor" wouldnt have done
> >>>> it and
> >>>> the first few terms i've tried haven't returned the previous
> >>>> discussions in
> >>>> the archive for me either
> >>>>

Geoff Bonallack
2004-12-06, 08:10
On Fri, 3 Dec 2004 21:15:39 -0500, stephen van vuuren <> wrote:
> I was able to set the higher priority by running it as batch file:
>
> /echo off
> start /realtime slimserver.exe
>
> or
> start /ultrahigh slimserver.exe or start /high slimserver.exe
>
> note batch file must be located in slimserver folder and this won't
> work for running as a service.
>
> However, you can use several "Run As Service" utilities to run this
> bat as a service.

Even better, you could use a command-line tool to change the priority
of the service itself, if the service allows it; there are several
tools out there, such as:
http://www.teamcti.com/pview/prcview.htm
(I haven't tried this, so you'd need to experiment).

Cheers,
Geoff