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Ralph Edington
2004-12-01, 20:37
Apologies in advance, I'm sure this has been discussed prior, but I'm new
here and didn't find it in the archives...

Are there any plans for bringing out a "standard" 17"-wide form-factor for
the slim server, that would combine/stack with regular audio gear?

I personally think that would be kind of cool, and would probably be my
first choice in form factor. I already have whole-house audio via
hard-wired speaker runs, and really only *need* one slim server, which would
no doubt be located with the rest of my gear...

Don't get me wrong, I love the cool-factor of the current slim servers...
just wondering...

Thanks,

RE

kdf
2004-12-01, 21:47
Quoting Ralph Edington <ralph (AT) edington (DOT) com>:

> Apologies in advance, I'm sure this has been discussed prior, but I'm new
> here and didn't find it in the archives...

oddly, its been brought up several times.

> Are there any plans for bringing out a "standard" 17"-wide form-factor for
> the slim server, that would combine/stack with regular audio gear?
>
> I personally think that would be kind of cool, and would probably be my
> first choice in form factor. I already have whole-house audio via
> hard-wired speaker runs, and really only *need* one slim server, which would
> no doubt be located with the rest of my gear...
>
> Don't get me wrong, I love the cool-factor of the current slim servers...
> just wondering...

and there is no answer, aside from an uninformed maybe :) Slim Devices has a
policy of not commenting on any future hardware.
-kdf

JJ
2004-12-02, 02:12
Why so odd? I imagine there have also been requests for a better sounding
Squeezebox. Right now I imagine most people concerned with sound quality
are using the digital outs.

I wonder if Slim Devices realizes what they have on their hands and the
willingness of audiophiles to pay much (_much_) more for a device given
the aesthetic and acoustic treatment it deserves.

Which begs the question... How "open" are the SlimServer API and software
and is it conceivable that someone else could build an Ethernet DAC like
the Squeezebox to operate with SlimServer? I haven't gotten a feel yet
for whether this would be something welcome or something undesired by Slim
Devices.


----- Original Message -----
From: "kdf" <slim-mail (AT) deane-freeman (DOT) com>
To: "Slim Devices Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 9:47 PM
Subject: [slim] Form factor?


> Quoting Ralph Edington <ralph (AT) edington (DOT) com>:
>
>> Apologies in advance, I'm sure this has been discussed prior, but I'm
>> new
>> here and didn't find it in the archives...
>
> oddly, its been brought up several times.
>
>> Are there any plans for bringing out a "standard" 17"-wide form-factor
>> for
>> the slim server, that would combine/stack with regular audio gear?
>>
>> I personally think that would be kind of cool, and would probably be my
>> first choice in form factor. I already have whole-house audio via
>> hard-wired speaker runs, and really only *need* one slim server, which
>> would
>> no doubt be located with the rest of my gear...
>>
>> Don't get me wrong, I love the cool-factor of the current slim
>> servers...
>> just wondering...
>
> and there is no answer, aside from an uninformed maybe :) Slim Devices
> has a
> policy of not commenting on any future hardware.
> -kdf

kdf
2004-12-02, 02:53
Quoting JJ <jj (AT) zolx (DOT) com>:

> Why so odd? I imagine there have also been requests for a better sounding
> Squeezebox. Right now I imagine most people concerned with sound quality
> are using the digital outs.

odd, as in 'how could you NOT find it' in the archives. This, among other
things, seems to come up about every 6 months or so.
>
> I wonder if Slim Devices realizes what they have on their hands and the
> willingness of audiophiles to pay much (_much_) more for a device given
> the aesthetic and acoustic treatment it deserves.

I think they can read well enough. But it also depends on which audiophiles you
listen to. Some have nothing but complaints, some love it. Some will never be
happy that this $300 device can't compete with their $1000 CD transport :)
>
> Which begs the question... How "open" are the SlimServer API and software
> and is it conceivable that someone else could build an Ethernet DAC like
> the Squeezebox to operate with SlimServer? I haven't gotten a feel yet
> for whether this would be something welcome or something undesired by Slim
> Devices.

Read the developer list archives, download the code. its as open as you can get
for the software. If you can't get a feel from the existence and support of
something like softsqueeze, then you need to try harder, quite frankly. I
believe the comment was made from Sean that other hardware making use of
slimserver was 'inevitable'. Unfortunate that the first one of this type
decided to offer nothing back, but that's the nature of open source. If it
comes back to making slimserver better, then squeezebox is also better because
of it.

-kdf

David Jameson
2004-12-02, 08:24
While I understand completely the policy - it does cause interesting issues
because there's no way to know whether to hold off and wait for your new box
or commit to something else.

Sigh,
D

> and there is no answer, aside from an uninformed maybe :) Slim Devices
> has a
> policy of not commenting on any future hardware.
> -kdf

Anthony James
2004-12-02, 09:05
On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 10:24:30 -0500, David Jameson <david (AT) digiportal (DOT) com> wrote:
> While I understand completely the policy - it does cause interesting issues
> because there's no way to know whether to hold off and wait for your new box
> or commit to something else.

and that's part of the point. Witness the problems Apple and Palm
have had in the past - announce your new upgraded product and kill
demand in the short term, leaving you with lots of unsold, devalued,
inventory. Add to that the likely unforseen delays a small co has in
bringing something to market and you kill your market for longer,
cutting off your cashflow.

My conclusion? Slim will have to evolve their hardware to compete
against new entrants. The current product is great, the ones that are
not yet released will be better but that's the same dilemma you have
when buying a digital camera or a PC.

I don't think you deserved the harsh words for bringing this up but it
was discussed in the last week or so. However, guessing the right
search terms for gmane was probably not easy and "form factor" wouldnt
have done it and the first few terms i've tried haven't returned the
previous discussions in the archive for me either

Anthony James
2004-12-02, 14:39
On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 11:30:47 -0800, Ralph Edington <ralph (AT) edington (DOT) com> wrote:
>Taking it one step
> further -- how about I just make my own form factor out of, say, teak and
> brushed steel, and move the guts over myself? 'Fess up now -- has anybody
> already done that?

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