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eduardoo
2014-05-30, 01:08
I'm running LMS 7.8 on a QNAP TS-219II (2Ghz Arm, 1GB ram). On the other end, I am using an SBT and controlling it with the Logitech Squeezebox Android app on an HTC One X (Tegra 3. About 15k on Antutu benchmark). My library is rather large (about 2.5T worth of lossless).

I thought I liked the Android app a bit as it is easier to access certain things than my Squeezbox Duet controller but I have recently discovered some issues.

As soon as I start the app, I can press play and it would immediately start playing whatever it was playing the last time. However, if I am to go into artists, new music, etc., it seems to take a long time (or sometimes even a timeout or two) to go into those categories. Ditto with random mix (say, album mix). However, once I get "in", it would start responding rather immediately to everything (e.g., scrolling, jumping to a letter, or triggering another random mix).

On further investigation, it seems that the behaviour is app dependent, too. The other app I've tried is Squeezer (since it is free). Squeezer seems to use much less time to have the artist list or new music list first show up. Accessing the library with various UPNP controller apps also seems to be more speedy. Maybe it is a matter of the Squeezebox app (I think it may need to cache the whole thing before displaying), but I doubt Logitech will further improve it...

My question is, what is your favorite Squeezebox control Android app? There seems to be a number of them out there. Some of them are paid apps but may or may not have trial versions for testing (although their screencaps seem promising). Comments on speed and usability would be much welcomed.

Thanks.

Stig Nygaard
2014-05-30, 01:45
My question is, what is your favorite Squeezebox control Android app? There seems to be a number of them out there. Some of them are paid apps but may or may not have trial versions for testing (although their screencaps seem promising). Comments on speed and usability would be much welcomed.


I like Orange Squeeze. Also development on this app is still ongoing (updated yesterday actually).

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.orangebikelabs.orangesqueeze

bwaldron
2014-05-30, 03:07
My favorite right now is Squeeze Control, though I also own Orange Squeeze and like it a lot. They're both great apps with active and responsive developers.

eduardoo
2014-05-30, 03:16
Thanks, guys.

Both Squeeze Control and Orange Squeeze don't have trial versions. Do they respond any quicker than Logitech's own app? What other features do they have over the Logitech one that you find particularly useful?

Thanks.

jimbobvfr400
2014-05-30, 03:36
You do get a very limited time to get a refund on the play store. 15 minutes if I recall correctly.



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Mnyb
2014-05-30, 04:13
Thanks, guys.

Both Squeeze Control and Orange Squeeze don't have trial versions. Do they respond any quicker than Logitech's own app? What other features do they have over the Logitech one that you find particularly useful?

Thanks.

That may actually depend a bit on the server , the information comes from the server to populate the menu .

A menu that always will be bit on the slow side is "music folder" it depends on the OS on the server to traverse actual folders , it not scanned content in a database .

I have no andriod only iOS so i cant recommend , however apps dont cost much just get both of them it's coffe money your time is worth more :) you would never really know otherwise .

get.amped
2014-05-30, 05:38
Orange Squeeze works well for me on both my Samsung Galaxy S3 phone and Nexus 7 tablet. Well worth the cost of the app. I also use Squeezeplayer on those devices to use them as players. The two apps work well together since Orange Squeeze has direct support for Squeezeplayer within the app. I haven't done a direct comparison with the Logitech provided app but performance has been good with almost immediate response displaying the list as it continues to load and cache entries in the background. And my library is considerably larger than yours although on much more powerful hardware.

Stig Nygaard
2014-05-30, 05:41
Thanks, guys.
Both Squeeze Control and Orange Squeeze don't have trial versions. Do they respond any quicker than Logitech's own app? What other features do they have over the Logitech one that you find particularly useful?


I haven't tried the official app, so can't comment on that. Don't remember the price of Orange Squeeze or other alternatives, but usually they are so cheap that I don't hesitate to try if I'm recommended to do so ;-)

eduardoo
2014-05-30, 18:44
Thanks guys. Actually, I am of course not overly concerned about the minimal money required. However, I don't have and generally don't like to tie a credit card to my account unless there is something I really need or want. Maybe I should try it out after all, or perhaps get a play store gift card.

wt0
2014-05-30, 20:23
Thanks guys. Actually, I am of course not overly concerned about the minimal money required. However, I don't have and generally don't like to tie a credit card to my account unless there is something I really need or want. Maybe I should try it out after all, or perhaps get a play store gift card.

If after using Squeeze Control, you decide that you don't like it and really want your money back, send me an email with the order number and I'll refund your purchase.

eduardoo
2014-06-03, 00:35
If after using Squeeze Control, you decide that you don't like it and really want your money back, send me an email with the order number and I'll refund your purchase.

Thanks for your kind offer. I'll probably get a Play store gift card and see how it goes.

eduardoo
2014-06-07, 07:06
Thanks for your kind offer. I'll probably get a Play store gift card and see how it goes.

Installed squeeze control today. Seems to work well and speedier. If I have to be critical, would say that the interface is not as pretty as Logitech's, and it would show artwork for albums loaded from the previous page before the new ones are loaded while the new names have already been loaded when scrolling. Otherwise, it is pretty much what I need.

One little thing, how do I keep the track play time progress on constantly instead of having to touch it to trigger?

Recoveryone
2014-06-07, 10:10
I have used Squeezebox app for androids (free D/L) and one for Windows base phones ($3.99) The windows base one had more features; Background info on Artist, and Lyrics of songs.

wt0
2014-06-07, 11:35
Installed squeeze control today. Seems to work well and speedier. If I have to be critical, would say that the interface is not as pretty as Logitech's, and it would show artwork for albums loaded from the previous page before the new ones are loaded while the new names have already been loaded when scrolling. Otherwise, it is pretty much what I need.

One little thing, how do I keep the track play time progress on constantly instead of having to touch it to trigger?

There's an option in Preferences > User Interface called Auto-Hide Progress

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wt0
2014-06-07, 13:22
I have used Squeezebox app for androids (free D/L) and one for Windows base phones ($3.99) The windows base one had more features; Background info on Artist, and Lyrics of songs.

I've tried all the paid the controllers on Windows Phone and the best of the bunch (other than Squeeze Control on winphone, of course;) ) is probably Soundicity. It may have more features compared to the free apps on Android, but certainly not compared to Squeeze Control or any of the paid apps. Lyrics and bio is neat, but you can add a plugin to the server that will get the same info which you can then access through Squeeze Control.

Compared to Squeeze Control it's missing a unified player manager, song downloading, per player customizable backgrounds, player server switching, auto server discovery (though that's a limitation of Windows Phone 7), music library list filtering, you can only access a song's full context menu in the music library section, the home menu customization has less available items and not reorderable, etc...

eduardoo
2014-06-08, 00:13
There's an option in Preferences > User Interface called Auto-Hide Progress

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Will try that. Thanks! Have a nice weekend

sciurius
2014-06-10, 04:33
A question about Squeeze Control: Does it support custom menus?
I have Custom Browse installed in LMS, but I cannot find it in Squeeze Control.

wt0
2014-06-10, 05:12
A question about Squeeze Control: Does it support custom menus?
I have Custom Browse installed in LMS, but I cannot find it in Squeeze Control.

I haven't tried that plugin, but Squeeze Control pulls menus from the server in the exact same way as the Squeezebox Controller or Squeezebox Touch. So if the custom menus show up on any device that uses the SqueezePlay interface, it will show up in Squeeze Control. However, if the plugin only affects the browser or squeezeboxes with the older interface like the Boom or the SB3, then it wouldn't work with Squeeze Control.

In the future please post support questions in the main Squeeze Control thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?96757-Annouce-Squeeze-Control-a-squeezebox-remote-app-is-now-available-for-Android

TheLastMan
2014-06-10, 08:58
Thanks guys. Actually, I am of course not overly concerned about the minimal money required. However, I don't have and generally don't like to tie a credit card to my account unless there is something I really need or want. Maybe I should try it out after all, or perhaps get a play store gift card.
I have Orange Squeeze and the official Logitech app. My advice? The Logitech interface is almost identical to the Duet Controller, so if you are used to that then you should try out the Logitech app first before forking out for Orange Squeeze. If you are more used to Android Apps generally you would probably prefer Orange Squeeze.

On my phone (Samsung S3 mini) the official Logitech app is actually the fastest and more responsive of the two by some way.

The more attractive interface is Orange Squeeze, and I like its integration with SqueezePlayer. It has a more flexible interface that is laid out much more like other Android apps.

In practice I use the Logitech App when I need stuff quick and know where it is, but if listening via the phone's headphone socket or when browsing music in a more leisurely fashion I will use Orange Squeeze. I use the Controller more than both together as it is always standing next to the player and does not keep turning itself off to save battery.

cyprusgrump
2016-01-15, 01:38
I've recently added Orange Squeeze and Squeezeplayer to my Android devices and absolutely love the combination.

Orange Squeeze is incredibly fast compared to navigating via a squeezebox and remote control or the LMS on my PC (which is connected directly to the QNAP TS-251 that LMS runs on!).

Brilliant, highly recommended!