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2004-11-29, 20:30
I sense there is a relatively clear divide between:
those who read the list in most detail preferring email;
and those like me who skim through it preferring a forum style.
The various features seem to suit the respective styles of the readers.

Just on a couple of points Roy made...

>> but the threading does
>> not work 100% - it often displays as new threads when the original is
>> just nearby. Maybe it cannot cope with replies from different mail
>> clients.
>>
> This is a training issue. Some users mistakenly use the 'reply'
> function when they should be starting a new thread. Fora don't
> prevent this, either.

I was referring to a single thread being apparently split into several
threads.
But this might be just Outlook's threading incompetence. I wasn't
counting the times people reply and then change the subject line.


>> Forum software has a much better method for tracking threads.
>>
>>
> I submit that most forum software is vastly inferior at tracking
> threads. I have yet to see a forum that will track individual
> messages in a thread. One visit and you're considered to have read
> everything.

I think this comes down to personal preferences in the way we follow
threads.
I do understand your requirement for tracking every single message, but
there are benefits both ways.


>> Finally, it would probably cut down on faq questions if the search
>> function was integrated into the same system ...
>>... Having a sticky FAQ in the forum itself would help also.
>>
> Not to be too cynical here, but the format of a forum (even vs. a
> mailing list with associated search facilities) will do little to "cut
> down on faq questions".

You might even be as cynical as me, but i can see the number of times
FAQs have been read in some forums and I think it must actually do some
good, despite what sometimes appears to be the case.



> ... I think we can
> achieve a solution that will keep most all the list members happy
> without forcing a single presentation paradigm on everyone.

Absolutely! And I would even go so far as to say the choice of
operation should be biased towards the operating style of those who
contribute most to the list.

Cameron.

Philip Meyer
2004-11-30, 02:34
>I sense there is a relatively clear divide between:
> those who read the list in most detail preferring email;
> and those like me who skim through it preferring a forum style.

I can't understand why people find skim-reading through web forums easier than skim-reading through emails? Surely it's quicker to navigate through off-line emails than through a web forum. Most email programs have some sort of search facility too.

The only thing I can think of is that people want access to old archive mail, which is strange in that people are complaining there's too much traffic to read - if there's too much, why do people want to read more old mail too!

If newbies can find the answers to their questions by initially looking through FAQs and proper documention, they wouldn't need to go searching through chit-chat.

If a question has been asked several times before, and there's a standard reply, it should be in the FAQ, and then people wouldn't have to ask the question again.

As an alternative, what about starting a news server?

Phil

Steve Baumgarten
2004-11-30, 07:29
> As an alternative, what about starting a news server?

It already exists -- simply point your newsreader to news.gmane.org and
subscribe.

Gmane is maintaining this mailing list (as well as many others) on their
site as a newsgroup; they also provide access to it in web forum format;
they provide searchable access to the archives; they even provide access
to it via an RSS feed (which works well in Firefox as a "Live Bookmark").

And they do it all for free. (Nice guys, those Gmane folks.)

Have a look:

http://www.gmane.org/
http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.music.equipment.slimdevices.general

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Rod Savard
2004-11-30, 21:04
>> > As an alternative, what about starting a news server?
>>
>> It already exists -- simply point your newsreader to news.gmane.org and
>> subscribe.
>
> Awesome!! Thanks for the tip! I prefer using a newsgroup over a web
> based
> forum or an email list.

Just checking to see if I can post messages to the mailing list via the
newsgroup...

-Rod