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Ikabob
2014-04-06, 04:26
After installing Windows7 and LMS, I am having an issue.
Many of my playlists are lists of radio stations (WGUC, for example).
While listening to this station I find that the feed becomes interrupted and the next thing I find is that the next station on the playlist is now playing. As background information, I am running LMS 7.3 (but I've tried 7.8 also) and usually synching a SB touch device plus a SB radio device. Signal strengths on the devices are normally about 50% and 60% respectively.
Thanks for any advice to correct this.

( I may be premature but it may seem to happen with just certain stations [like WGUC]..I haven't experimented enough yet)...just skipped again.
I just noticed also that I seem to get occasional "cut outs".
Very unstable. It is skipping very much. Can these Win7 Gadgets interfere?
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Another thing, I reinstalled the Router again...maybe I need to change the channel I am running. It's a Cisco Linksys WRT16ON and I am not certain where to find the channel selection settings. Is that the same as "Route Entries"?


Update : I think I have fixed this problem. So far, so good.

Ikabob
2014-04-11, 02:12
Well, I guess I really did not fix this skipping problem.
It seems , as I had stated in the original post, that the station still seems to randomly occasionally skip to the next station in the playlist. It happens only while listening to a certain station(WGUC) which is a unique station because it streams at a very fast bitrate when compared to other stations in the playlist. It may happen on other stations that I haven't tested. The skipping seems to be more frequent at certain times of day( like 7:00 pm forward).
This issue is tolerable,I guess, but I'd really like to fix it.
Is there some setting in the LMS settings that might make a more stable situation for this issue?
Any suggestions? I'm now running Win7 and LMS v 7.3.*.
Thank you.

Other than this issue, the SB ecosystem is still very very awesome. I'd be lost without it.

jimbobvfr400
2014-04-11, 04:12
What happens if it's not playing as part of a playlist, I presume the station will just buffer and continue playing.

Out of interest why do you have playlists of radio stations? Couldn't you add them individually to favorite's

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Ikabob
2014-04-11, 05:55
What happens if it's not playing as part of a playlist, I presume the station will just buffer and continue playing.

Out of interest why do you have playlists of radio stations? Couldn't you add them individually to favorite's

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I have playlists of favorite stations for convenience in switching from one to another. The playlist consists of radio stations and music service stations( Sirius,Sky,etc). It's very convenient to be able to change from say classical to Sinatra or whatever.

I think I did try listening to the one station (WGUC) singly when not part of the playlist and I do think that it just rebuffers..actually I think I should recheck that to be sure.

Thanks.

aubuti
2014-04-11, 19:54
It's very convenient to be able to change from say classical to Sinatra or whatever.
If you save those stations as Favorites then you may find it just as convenient. In fact, with Favorites on LMS you can create a nested folder structure, which can be more convenient than browsing a long list.

Ikabob
2014-04-11, 20:07
Thanks. I have soo many favorites already.
And,
not sure what a nested folder is.

bwaldron
2014-04-12, 09:18
Thanks. I have soo many favorites already.
And,
not sure what a nested folder is.

You can create folders (and more folders contained or "nested" within these folders if you like) for organizing your favorites -- which may be especially helpful to you as you note you have many.

Ikabob
2014-04-12, 12:02
What happens if it's not playing as part of a playlist, I presume the station will just buffer and continue playing.

Out of interest why do you have playlists of radio stations? Couldn't you add them individually to favorite's

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That does sound like something u should do. Thank you. I didn't know that could be done.
How do you make folders? On line?

aubuti
2014-04-12, 12:41
That does sound like something u should do. Thank you. I didn't know that could be done.
How do you make folders? On line?
You make Favorites folders using the LMS web interface. Here is a quick intro:

- Open the LMS web interface in your browser, and navigate to Favorites
- Hover your mouse cursor over the Favorites line, and a pencil icon (a very fat pencil) will appear on the right side of the same line as "Favorites"
- Click on the pencil icon to enter Edit mode
- your Favorites appear on a list, with buttons at the bottom for "New Favorite", "New Folder" , and Import.
- you can define folders via "New Folder", and then drag-and-drop Favorites into those folders. You can also delete Favorites you may not want any longer.
- to exit Edit mode, click on "Home" on the top left of the left pane of the web ui

Ikabob
2014-04-13, 03:59
You make Favorites folders using the LMS web interface. Here is a quick intro:

- Open the LMS web interface in your browser, and navigate to Favorites
- Hover your mouse cursor over the Favorites line, and a pencil icon (a very fat pencil) will appear on the right side of the same line as "Favorites"
- Click on the pencil icon to enter Edit mode
- your Favorites appear on a list, with buttons at the bottom for "New Favorite", "New Folder" , and Import.
- you can define folders via "New Folder", and then drag-and-drop Favorites into those folders. You can also delete Favorites you may not want any longer.
- to exit Edit mode, click on "Home" on the top left of the left pane of the web ui

Thanks for the instructions. I will try this but I'm not sure why making folders is any better than making playlists. Maybe there will be less skipping. If I try it I'm sure I will find out. Even after all these years of enjoying the SB ecosystem, I am still learning about new functions. It's great!
Also, this forum community is great!

aubuti
2014-04-13, 10:42
Thanks for the instructions. I will try this but I'm not sure why making folders is any better than making playlists. Maybe there will be less skipping. If I try it I'm sure I will find out. Even after all these years of enjoying the SB ecosystem, I am still learning about new functions. It's great!
Also, this forum community is great!
For your personal preferences it may not be any better than playlists of stations, which you are obviously used to (and I find completely alien). That is, as long as the stations keep playing without interruption.

The clearest difference will be the cases when the station is dropping out. As a playlist, it skips to the next item on the current playlist, as you've found. If it's a Favorite, then the station is the only item on the current playlist (think right side of the web interface). So it will rebuffer or try to re-establish the connection until you tell it to do something else.

Ikabob
2014-04-14, 08:20
For your personal preferences it may not be any better than playlists of stations, which you are obviously used to (and I find completely alien). That is, as long as the stations keep playing without interruption.

The clearest difference will be the cases when the station is dropping out. As a playlist, it skips to the next item on the current playlist, as you've found. If it's a Favorite, then the station is the only item on the current playlist (think right side of the web interface). So it will rebuffer or try to re-establish the connection until you tell it to do something else.


Yes, it sounds like a good idea. Thank you. I also changed router channels....maybe that'll help,too.

aubuti
2014-04-14, 10:41
In an earlier post you said that the most problematic station (WGUC) "...streams at a very fast bitrate when compared to other stations in the playlist...." I take you mean it streams at a high bitrate? If so, the constraint is more likely your ISP or the station itself, and not your router. It can't hurt anything to try changing router channels, but it may not help.

Does that station have a lower bitrate channel you could try? The lower bitrate may be lower fidelity, but if the high bitrate is regularly cutting out then the low bitrate may be more tolerable in the long run.

Ikabob
2014-04-14, 12:42
In an earlier post you said that the most problematic station (WGUC) "...streams at a very fast bitrate when compared to other stations in the playlist...." I take you mean it streams at a high bitrate? If so, the constraint is more likely your ISP or the station itself, and not your router. It can't hurt anything to try changing router channels, but it may not help.

Does that station have a lower bitrate channel you could try? The lower bitrate may be lower fidelity, but if the high bitrate is regularly cutting out then the low bitrate may be more tolerable in the long run.


Yes, the WGUC station is a high (192) bitrate and this is the reason I like it a lot. It doesn't seem to have a lower bitrate stream.
I'll see what happens with this new router channel. Right now (3:45pm) it has been fine. The problem seems to begin at about 7:00pm.
Thanks for you input.

Ikabob
2014-04-19, 09:42
Just a quick update FYI.
I upgraded the router to a dual band Linksys.
The skips and cut outs have ceased . Thanks for all the helpful recs and advice.