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lreinstein
2014-02-07, 07:59
Hi,

I have my Squeezebox2 connected via WiFi and am using the Triode Plugin for SPOTIFY. Occasionally (such as this morning) the music stops with a Rebuffering or Buffering appearing on the SB2. Today it seemed to stop at 1% and was stuck there. I tried a few things including restarting the Server but same thing.

I believe my internet speeds are quite good as is the WiFi strength. This does not happen all the time.

What puzzled me was that I then went to Spotify on my iPad and could stream the exact same music at the exact same quality (EXTREME, i.e., 320kbs) with no problem whatsoever.

More data is that the SB2 is having no problem with Pandora or even with my AppleLossless files streaming from may MacBook.

Any ideas? Is this a Plugin problem??

Thanks

Larry

jimbobvfr400
2014-02-07, 08:42
How's your server connected? If that's also WiFi then you've got multiple WiFi hops which might not help.

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lreinstein
2014-02-07, 08:52
How's your server connected? If that's also WiFi then you've got multiple WiFi hops which might not help.

Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk

My server is the Logitech server installed on my MacBook. This is of course on WiFi (N).

But then, my iPad is also receiving Spotify via WiFi connection. I guess your point is that is only a single wifi hop? hmmmm. The problem with that explanation is that this is only a problem occasionally.

I am not sure how the Triode Plugin works. why would it cause Spotify reception to behave differently?

Larry

pippin
2014-02-07, 09:23
The plugin needs to transcode from OGG to FLAC when decoding the Spotify steam so if anything causes load on your server it could cause a data shortage.
Also, the FLAC stream requires a lot more bandwidth, especially if you stream to several players

lreinstein
2014-02-07, 09:45
The plugin needs to transcode from OGG to FLAC when decoding the Spotify steam so if anything causes load on your server it could cause a data shortage.
Also, the FLAC stream requires a lot more bandwidth, especially if you stream to several players


My problem now is that it simply has stopped working on SPOTIFY as follows.

I can search and find an album using the LMS. When I hit PLAY, it shows a progress bar as if it is playing. I hear the music for about 3 seconds. Then I see "re-buffering 30%". Then it says "Buffering 1%" and it stays there FOREVER.

Any thoughts. Please note. I have been using this exact system, no changes to network, wifi router, anything, quite successfully for the last few years? I wonder what has changed now? Is it on Spotify end? The Triode Plugin?

THanks

Larry

pippin
2014-02-07, 09:47
Are you maybe using Spotify on another system? You can only use Spotify on e.g. An iThingy OR the Squeezeboxes

lreinstein
2014-02-07, 09:56
Are you maybe using Spotify on another system? You can only use Spotify on e.g. An iThingy OR the Squeezeboxes

I thought of that. So i went to the Spotify App on my MacBook, and i was able to stream music beautifully with NO buffering. I then stopped the music and closed the App. If there were another system running I would not have been able to use it on the MB. And then I shut the MB.

I just did the "self-test" on the LMS/Settings/Plugins/Triode Spotify Plugin/Settings on the LMS and came up with what I pasted below. This is strange!!

Is something wrong with the Plugin? Is Mr. Triode around?

L



Self Test
Self Test - Complete
Helper App Running
Helper App Running
PASS
Logged In
Logged In
PASS
Spotify Metadata OK
Spotify Metadata OK
PASS
Streaming from Spotify Failed
FAIL

Unable to start streaming from Spotify - check connectivity to Spotify

lreinstein
2014-02-07, 10:28
So, what is strange is that it is now working.

I disconnected and then reconnected the SB2 to the Network and stopped and started the LMS etc. Presto Change-o ... it is now working. Streaming beautiful spotify music at 320kbps.

So what was the problem and why did Spotify Plugin selftest give me the results mentioned above? Why did Spotify stop working while Pandora continued to work?

A mystery.?


There are so many settings that I do not understand. Any advice on values that might improve my situation?

Larry

lreinstein
2014-02-07, 15:19
Same problem is occurring.

The SB2 display is now stuck again on Buffering 1%. This is after it successfully got through the first track of the Spotify Album.

Any ideas?

Thanks

lreinstein
2014-02-08, 09:54
So to re-cap... I was unable to play music using the Spotify Plugin... even though it had been working for more than a year. It got stuck with a "Buffering 1%" display on the SB2. (I use the LMS on my MacBook running Mavericks).

However, I also noted that I was getting increasing number of long pauses due to buffering while playing my own Apple Lossless files. So now thinking maybe it is my system???

Looking at Activity Monitor I noted a "Soagent not responding". I have no idea what this means or whether it is even relevant so decided to Re-start my MacBook).

And, as if by magic, the Buffering problem vanished and Spotify is working perfectly!

So, what the heck???

(Also, no Soagent error .... ).

Any thoughts.

callesoroe
2014-02-12, 11:42
Hi,

I have my Squeezebox2 connected via WiFi and am using the Triode Plugin for SPOTIFY. Occasionally (such as this morning) the music stops with a Rebuffering or Buffering appearing on the SB2. Today it seemed to stop at 1% and was stuck there. I tried a few things including restarting the Server but same thing.

I believe my internet speeds are quite good as is the WiFi strength. This does not happen all the time.

What puzzled me was that I then went to Spotify on my iPad and could stream the exact same music at the exact same quality (EXTREME, i.e., 320kbs) with no problem whatsoever.

More data is that the SB2 is having no problem with Pandora or even with my AppleLossless files streaming from may MacBook.

Any ideas? Is this a Plugin problem??

Thanks

Larry

Try to set "streaming through proxy" in sound settings. This often solves buffering problems from external streaming services.