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FredFredrickson
2014-01-25, 10:22
I have two duet receivers a SB Touch and a radio, and when I try to play rhapsody tracks the touch or radio both freeze and reboot. Looks like the two receivers play rhapsody tracks just fine. Happens synced or individually.

Any ideas?

Thanks

FredFredrickson
2014-01-25, 10:24
Aaaand, this answered my question

http://forums.logitech.com/t5/MySqueezebox-com-Squeezebox/MySqueezebox-com-Outage-Notification-1-24-2014/td-p/1183599

cadfish
2014-01-25, 11:14
This hint came just on time - I was just going to dig into the problem myself - thanks a lot for sharing!!!

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radish112
2014-01-25, 16:57
Well...I'm glad I finally saw this...although it came after a useless factory reset or two of my Touch. It's weird that my two SB3s are interacting with Rhapsody as usual, but when the Touch tries to interact with Rhapsody, it results in freezes, reboots, and other oddities.

Oh well, I'll restore my Touch to my preferred settings when Rhapsody calms down...that's certainly preferable to having a dead or dying Touch, which is what I thought I had.

lazyflac-er
2014-01-26, 06:30
Glad I'm not the only one, this has been driving me insane all weekend. Touch just reboots every time you try to play something from napster.

Was seriously thinking about getting Sonos !

jtf
2014-01-26, 08:15
Same here. Hopefully they fix it soon.

dlpoole
2014-01-26, 09:49
Retries were starting to make me crazy.

jtf
2014-01-28, 15:43
Still no fix yet, huh?

John Gyurci
2014-01-28, 19:41
I use my squeezebox to stream Rhapsody music to my whole home audio system. This outage has got me really worried. Anyone aware of other options I could potentially purchase to accomplish this same task, if this issue does not get resolved? I heard someone mention Sonos??

mherger
2014-01-28, 21:58
> Still no fix yet, huh?

No, unfortunately not. And it might take a while, as it'll most likely
need a firmware upgrade. Something we've tried to avoid for too long...

--

Michael

Ikabob
2014-01-29, 02:03
I wonder if Rhapsody developers plan on some compensation to the subscribers for the extended downtime?
It seems reasonable and fair to expect this.
Is there a contact email address for Rhapsody?

Tony T
2014-01-29, 08:52
I wonder if Rhapsody developers plan on some compensation to the subscribers for the extended downtime?
It seems reasonable and fair to expect this.
Is there a contact email address for Rhapsody?

Well, it's really not Rhapsody's issue as we can still listen with their other Apps (iPhone) and Web player.
However, you do have a point and Rhapsody has good customer service, so email them at help@rhapsody.com

pippin
2014-01-29, 09:08
Well, it's really not Rhapsody's issue as we can still listen with their other Apps (iPhone) and Web player.


You can't really say that.
After all, both their Apps and their Web player are under their control. So if they made a change these could have been adapted. With the Squeezeboxes, the change needs to be backwards compatible.

Ikabob
2014-01-29, 09:35
Well, it's really not Rhapsody's issue as we can still listen with their other Apps (iPhone) and Web player.
However, you do have a point and Rhapsody has good customer service, so email them at help@rhapsody.com

Thanks for the email address. I'm a patient person and since I have MOG it's not a big deal yet. I just want to be sure I have access to recordings that I enjoy after MOG departs. I also appreciate Rhapsody's respectability. Thanks,

Tony T
2014-01-29, 16:54
You can't really say that.
After all, both their Apps and their Web player are under their control. So if they made a change these could have been adapted. With the Squeezeboxes, the change needs to be backwards compatible.

ok, but as I also said: "However, you do have a point and Rhapsody has good customer service, so email them at help@rhapsody.com"

Tony T
2014-01-29, 16:55
Thanks for the email address. I'm a patient person and since I have MOG it's not a big deal yet. I just want to be sure I have access to recordings that I enjoy after MOG departs. I also appreciate Rhapsody's respectability. Thanks,

They'll probably give a month's credit. Rhapsody has good customer service.

y360a
2014-01-30, 02:24
"Thank you for contacting Rhapsody Customer Support.

I understand that you are unable to access Rhapsody on Squeeze box. Certainly I'll assist you.

I'm sorry to inform you that, we have few more customers reported on this issue and our Engineers are investigating and working on it. Once the issue is fixed, you will be receiving an email. I am really sorry for any inconvenience caused.

Thank you for your patience.

Please reply back to us, for any further assistance. We will be glad to assist you."

MeSue
2014-01-30, 10:20
Hmmm… I hadn't experienced this problem, but yesterday I tried to access Rhapsody on my Squeezebox (via iPeng) and got a message that it was down for maintenance and to try again later. That was from about 8PM last night until I went to bed, but this morning it is back. I've only browsed, but not tried to play anything yet. So I wonder if the maintenance was something to do with this issue.

Tony T
2014-01-30, 10:42
I've only browsed, but not tried to play anything yet. So I wonder if the maintenance was something to do with this issue.

I'm able to browse, select an Album/Song to add to the playlist, but player reboots when it attempts to play the stream.

MeSue
2014-01-30, 10:53
Boom is playing Rhapsody fine for me. Haven't tried Touch or Radio yet.

mherger
2014-01-30, 12:20
> Boom is playing Rhapsody fine for me. Haven't tried Touch or Radio yet.

The Rhapsody "maintenance" nag screen is to prevent crashes on Touch &
Radio. It's still working fine (and should be available) on
Classic/Receiver/Transporter/Boom.

I added some code to prevent players getting into a reboot loop while we
try to fix the underlying issue.

--

Michael

MeSue
2014-01-30, 16:26
Yup, it crashed my Touch when I turned on that synced player. Bummer.

ajkidle
2014-01-30, 18:28
> It's still working fine (and should be available) on
Classic/Receiver/Transporter/Boom.


I can confirm that Rhapsody still streams fine on my classic ip3k players. It's only when the Touch or Radio get into the mix, either by themselves or as part of a sync group, that things break. Funny that the older players don't have the issue.

We've all known the day would come when Squeezebox would stop working with streaming services; frankly I'm encouraged (and surprised) that the issue is even being worked on.

Thanks for the updates, Michael.

-Andy

TechHome
2014-02-01, 18:12
> Boom is playing Rhapsody fine for me. Haven't tried Touch or Radio yet.

The Rhapsody "maintenance" nag screen is to prevent crashes on Touch &
Radio. It's still working fine (and should be available) on
Classic/Receiver/Transporter/Boom.

I added some code to prevent players getting into a reboot loop while we
try to fix the underlying issue.

--

Michael

Michael,

Like others on the forums, my family is heavily invested in the Squeezebox platform. Just pulled a touch, temporarily substituting a spare SB2 on order to get Rhapsody back in the kitchen.

I appreciate that you are still supporting this fantastic product and as I miss the touch - looking forward to a solution; much thanks!

t-chok
2014-02-04, 07:55
Hi.... Just want to add a +1 to this, hoping that a solution can be found soon. I would say at least 90% of the music our family listens to is via Rhapsody over our Squeezebox network.

Many thanks for your efforts in trying to fix this!

Tim

cjfreitag
2014-02-04, 13:22
+1 from me as well. My Rhapsody subscription really only exists so I can feed my Squeezebox ecosystem, and I am really happy to know that the issue is being worked on!

Tony T
2014-02-05, 11:45
> Still no fix yet, huh?

No, unfortunately not. And it might take a while, as it'll most likely
need a firmware upgrade. Something we've tried to avoid for too long...

--

Michael

Michael,

Awhile, as in "a few weeks" or awhile as in "a few months"?

Tony

mherger
2014-02-06, 02:17
> Awhile, as in "a few weeks" or awhile as in "a few months"?

It'll be ready when it's ready. We think we have found what is causing
the crash, but are facing new problems...

--

Michael

frb63
2014-02-06, 09:55
Another +1. Rhapsody represents probably 50% of my SB radio usage, and vice-versa. I really miss it.
Thanks for anything you can do.

Randy

FredFredrickson
2014-02-06, 10:29
> Awhile, as in "a few weeks" or awhile as in "a few months"?

It'll be ready when it's ready. We think we have found what is causing
the crash, but are facing new problems...

--

Michael


Glad to hear it's still being worked on. Rhapsody was a major part of my usage too! Keep us updated!

marmot_m
2014-02-08, 15:10
As you guys can see, we need this stuff! My Touch is my (Music)Castle. I would even pay a small monthly support fee to secure maintenance.

Btw: make sure with new firmware thatSB Touch can be used in native 24/192 - today only possible with patch. That'll be fantastic!!!

Alexander (Germany)

JonWill
2014-02-10, 01:43
+1 from me...

frb63
2014-02-10, 15:59
This from Logitech's support forum 9/2012:


Rest assured that the Squeezebox platform you’ve been enjoying over the years will continue to provide you access to a rich world of music and we’ll continue to address any questions or troubleshooting on our Logitech.com support http://forums.logitech.com/t5/Squeezebox-Players/Logitech-UE-Smart-Radio/td-p/884530


This from Logitech in response to CNET article 9/2012:


Logitech values its Squeezebox customers, and we want them to continue enjoying Squeezebox. We actively plan to support the service, in its current form, for all existing users.http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33199_7-57519226-221/logitech-leaves-squeezebox-fans-wondering-whats-next/


Still true or not?

garym
2014-02-10, 18:41
Since then they have completely discontinued the squeezebox line. Nothing is forever.

LeatherJack
2014-02-11, 08:27
Any update mherger? Missing Napster on my Radio badly...

FredFredrickson
2014-02-11, 10:46
No rush- but hoping that we'll see a fix soon! I started browsing Sonos systems and came to the conclusion that I don't want one.. lol

mherger
2014-02-11, 21:49
> Any update mherger? Missing Napster on my Radio badly...

Good news: we have fixed firmware. Getting QAed.

--

Michael

Boxes
2014-02-12, 05:18
Great news on the progress. I have cancelled my subscription to Napster as I refuse to pay for something when it is not working.

TechHome
2014-02-12, 06:32
> Any update mherger? Missing Napster on my Radio badly...

Good news: we have fixed firmware. Getting QAed.

--

Michael

Awesome!

Much thanks Michael!

radish112
2014-02-12, 06:35
Right on, Michael!

frb63
2014-02-12, 08:30
That's great news - thanks for the update.

Tony T
2014-02-12, 11:14
Good news: we have fixed firmware. Getting QAed.
Michael

Thanks!

HeadBanger
2014-02-12, 11:21
Thanks Michael.

spozate900
2014-02-12, 20:21
Thanks Michael.


It's not working for me. It still says down for maintenance.

Tony T
2014-02-13, 07:02
It's not working for me. It still says down for maintenance.

Firmware update not out yet, should be soon. You'll see a message to update the software/firmware when it's ready.

spozate900
2014-02-13, 08:36
Firmware update not out yet, should be soon. You'll see a message to update the software/firmware when it's ready.


Ok. Thanks Tony for the update.

mherger
2014-02-13, 23:47
See here (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?100830-Rhapsody-crashing-Squeezeplay-devices&p=771609&viewfull=1#post771609) for updated instructions.

--

Michael

marmot_m
2014-02-14, 14:41
> Firmware update not out yet, should be soon. You'll see a message to
> update the software/firmware when it's ready.

Here's another update. As I mentioned earlier this week we do have
firmware with a fix for the Rhapsody/Napster issue. Unfortunately it
turned out that this came at unexpected cost. Some other features (incl.
TinyLMS on Touch) are broken. We yet have to figure out what is causing
this.

That said: if you are willing to take the risk of running new beta f
firmware for your Touch, and don't need the built-in server, please
shoot me a mail (michael ät slimdevices dot com). We're planning to
provide access to a pre-release build asap.

Please note that at this point this is limited to SB Touch (and probably
UE Smart Radio), as manually updating the SB Radio is a bit more
involved and comes at a higher risk of bricking the device.

--

Michael

Hi Michael,
thanks for your support. I prefer to wait for a rock-solid firmware - please do not forget to test Enhanced Digital Output, a crucial app!!!
Cheers,
Alexander

mherger
2014-02-14, 17:03
> please do not forget to test Enhanced Digital Output, a crucial app!!!

EDO is a 3rd party contribution. Please get in touch with its author
should you encounter any issue. We can't test all contributions.

--

Michael

HeadBanger
2014-02-15, 04:16
@ Michael

I'm not brave enough to instal onto my Radios and have only updated my Touch and all seems fine so far.
I'm able to play Napster again (hurray!) but I'll try and give it a more comprehensive test over the next few days.

Thanks again.

HB

partymonkey
2014-02-16, 15:10
I installed the beta on my Touch, and I took the risk and installed it on two Radios (not UE) using the risky custom procedure.

I am happily streaming Rhapsody again on these three devices, and so far I have not encountered any problems with the firmware, although it's still early and I rarely use either LMS or 3rd party plugins. Most of my Squeezebox use is Rhapsody, internet radio, and slacker/pandora.

Thank you, Michael, for allowing us to test the fix preview here, and more importantly, for addressing the problem and putting together a fix.

HeadBanger
2014-02-17, 11:20
Small problem with new beta. When playing an album on Napster, select more (+ on controller) and then select on Napster. Choose the artist (or any other option) to search. I then get error message 500 internal server error. Anyone else get this?

If you use Napster's front end search it continues to work OK though.

partymonkey
2014-02-17, 12:25
Small problem with new beta. When playing an album on Napster, select more (+ on controller) and then select on Napster. Choose the artist (or any other option) to search. I then get error message 500 internal server error. Anyone else get this?

If you use Napster's front end search it continues to work OK though.

I use the Rhapsody app on the squeezebox, and when playing a Rhapsody album, the + button opens a list of choices but it doesn't include a "on Rhapsody (or napster)" list item (it gives me other More on options like pandora, etc), but if I select the Artist itself from that list, it does return other albums by that artist on Rhapsody and it lets me select and play them, it doesn't give me an error.

It also works if I play something in Pandora, and then I do the More on Rhapsody.

HeadBanger
2014-02-18, 07:13
I use the Rhapsody app on the squeezebox, and when playing a Rhapsody album, the + button opens a list of choices but it doesn't include a "on Rhapsody (or napster)" list item (it gives me other More on options like pandora, etc), but if I select the Artist itself from that list, it does return other albums by that artist on Rhapsody and it lets me select and play them, it doesn't give me an error.

It also works if I play something in Pandora, and then I do the More on Rhapsody.

That's strange. I have always had the 'On Napster' option appear underneath the 'Duration' info whilst playing Napster. :confused:

mherger
2014-02-19, 07:08
We're getting closer to an official release of the updated firmware to fix the rebooting caused by Napster/Rhapsody tracks. If you feel like giving it a try already, please follow these instructions:

Grab the firmware from this folder:
http://update.slimdevices.com/update/firmware/7.x-rhapsody/

There should be three images: fab4 is Touch, baby is Radio. Pick 7.8 if you're running LMS 7.8. Otherwise stick with the 7.7.x builds. There is no 7.8 firmware for the Radio, as there are no 7.8 specific changes to it yet.

To update SB Touch just download the firmware image, store it on a USB stick or SD card, and plug it in to the Touch. After a few moments you'll be offered a menu from which you can install the firmware.

The procedure for the Radio is a bit more involved and riskier, as there's no USB/SD card slot on the device. I wouldn't recommend doing it unless you're really sure you know what you're doing. Instructions can be found in the wiki. I won't give them to you...

PLEASE NOTE: this is not an official release yet. Use it at your own risk.

Good luck! And please let me know about your experience. Thanks for your help!

partymonkey
2014-02-19, 09:32
We're getting closer to an official release of the updated firmware to fix the rebooting caused by Napster/Rhapsody tracks. If you feel like giving it a try already, please follow these instructions:

Grab the firmware from this folder:
http://update.slimdevices.com/update/firmware/7.x-rhapsody/

There should be three images: fab4 is Touch, baby is Radio. Pick 7.8 if you're running LMS 7.8. Otherwise stick with the 7.7.x builds. There is no 7.8 firmware for the Radio, as there are no 7.8 specific changes to it yet.

To update SB Touch just download the firmware image, store it on a USB stick or SD card, and plug it in to the Touch. After a few moments you'll be offered a menu from which you can install the firmware.

The procedure for the Radio is a bit more involved and riskier, as there's no USB/SD card slot on the device. I wouldn't recommend doing it unless you're really sure you know what you're doing. Instructions can be found in the wiki. I won't give them to you...

PLEASE NOTE: this is not an official release yet. Use it at your own risk.

Good luck! And please let me know about your experience. Thanks for your help!

Thank you, Michael. I've been doing quite well with the 16676 version on the Radios (Squeezebox version). Yesterday there was an issue, but it turned out to be Rhapsody problems, not this.

Any comment on the UE Smartradio firmware version? I've got one of my radios running that. I guess I can convert it to squeezebox firmware, but if I can leave it as UE, I would prefer to do that instead.

mherger
2014-02-19, 09:40
> Any comment on the UE Smartradio firmware version? I've got one of my
> radios running that. I guess I can convert it to squeezebox firmware,
> but if I can leave it as UE, I would prefer to do that instead.

The firmware update procedure is slightly different on SR from what it
is on SB. We do have SR firmware as well (that was actually the first we
had). But it currently would require you to use a test server as the
backend - which you probably don't want to do, as it would require yet a
new account and might be broken in other regards.

--

Michael

cjfreitag
2014-02-19, 15:43
I downloaded and installed the firmware on a Touch running 7.8. No problems, and Rhapsody is working as normal.

JonWill
2014-02-20, 02:20
I've just downloaded it and it seems to be working fine on my Touch - will let you know if I experience any issues

fcm4711
2014-02-20, 07:31
Hi there

Many thanks to everyone for taking the time to test the new firmware with the Rhapsody fix. I appreciate it.

Cheers
Felix

rgro
2014-02-20, 12:17
Hi....

I'm wanting to try to do this but need a bit of help as my skills are less than basic, heh. I'm running 7.8 on my Touch. The index of update/firmware lists a number of different 7.8 files. There is:

fab4.version.7.8.0
fab4.version.sha.7.8.0
fab4_7.8.0_r16754.bin
fab4_7.8.0_r16754.bin.sha

I downloaded the third file on this list (fab4_7.8.0_r16754.bin) to an SD card and plugged the SD card into the Touch. It recognized that the card was there, but I left it sitting in the Touch for 5 min and nothing happened. Clearly, I'm either missing a step somewhere or have not loaded the correct firmware(s). Any assistance (preferably of the step-by-step variety) would be appreciated. Thanks!

JonWill
2014-02-20, 12:28
Rgro... You may need to put it on a USB stick rather than a sd card. That's what worked for me...

rgro
2014-02-20, 12:34
Rgro... You may need to put it on a USB stick rather than a sd card. That's what worked for me...

Thanks. I do have a USB stick, too. But first, which "it" (file) did you download to your USB stick? Is fab4_7.8.0_r16754 the correct file to download? If so, I see that it gets downloaded as a .zip file. Do you need to unzip it prior to plugging the USB stick into the Touch?

Sorry for the dumb questions but, like I said, my skills are rudimentary (but I can follow directions!).

aubuti
2014-02-20, 12:39
Thanks. I do have a USB stick, too. But first, which "it" (file) did you download to your USB stick? Is fab4_7.8.0_r16754 the correct file to download? If so, I see that it gets downloaded as a .zip file. Do you need to unzip it prior to plugging the USB stick into the Touch?

Sorry for the dumb questions but, like I said, my skills are rudimentary (but I can follow directions!).
I haven't done this particular upgrade (because I no longer use Rhapsody), but speaking from past experience, what you want is fab4_7.8.0_r16754.bin. That is, it should have a .bin extension, not a .zip. You should be able to control that when you download the file, or you can rename the .zip to .bin before attempting the update. The file should be about 33MB in size.

rgro
2014-02-20, 12:55
I haven't done this particular upgrade (because I no longer use Rhapsody), but speaking from past experience, what you want is fab4_7.8.0_r16754.bin. That is, it should have a .bin extension, not a .zip. You should be able to control that when you download the file, or you can rename the .zip to .bin before attempting the update. The file should be about 33MB in size.

Ah...thanks. Renaming the extension to .bin did the trick.

rgro
2014-02-20, 12:57
Hi..

Installed this fix and Rhapsody is back working normally on 7.8. I am an EDO user which I had to reinstall after installing this fix. Music is playing perfectly from all sources, now.

ademathews
2014-02-20, 13:11
Hi there

Many thanks to everyone for taking the time to test the new firmware with the Rhapsody fix. I appreciate it.

Cheers
Felix

The upgrade of the touch went very smoothly, so I tried it on one of the radios. I'm pleased to say that that went well, too - I now have my boom, 2 radios and touch synchronised and am back to playing Napster through mySB. I now have a very happy other half, who's loving the new Nina Nesbitt album. I hate to admit it, but it is quite catchy! :)

Thank you so much guys - I really appreciate all of the hard work that's gone in to keeping the mighty squeezebox. I hope that Napster/Rhapsody rewards you well!

Adrian

cjfreitag
2014-02-20, 14:06
The upgrade of the touch went very smoothly, so I tried it on one of the radios.
Adrian

Where did you find the directions to do the radio? I know that Michael said they are on the wiki, but I couldn't find them.

ademathews
2014-02-20, 15:27
Where did you find the directions to do the radio? I know that Michael said they are on the wiki, but I couldn't find them.

http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Custom.baby.version - is what I used. Although the folder to place the files in (within the cache folder) was called "squeezebox" for me (Mavericks OS).

Hopefully Michael won't mind me posting the link. As you know, he's not really encouraging this and has warned that if it's not carried out correctly, it could brick the device.

I found it quite straightforward. As long as you follow the instructions and have a solid network connection all should be fine!

cjfreitag
2014-02-20, 15:49
Thanks. I'm also using Mavericks, so that's a useful bit of info.

FredFredrickson
2014-02-20, 17:07
Out of curiosity, who has LMS 7.8? Looks like the latest available on mysqueezebox.com is still 7.7.3

rgro
2014-02-20, 18:17
Out of curiosity, who has LMS 7.8? Looks like the latest available on mysqueezebox.com is still 7.7.3

I do.

mherger
2014-02-20, 21:18
Thanks for your testing, everybody! I'm going to roll this out to
production today.

Please note that LMS installations might take up to 24h before they
provide the latest firmware.

--

Michael

cjfreitag
2014-02-20, 21:42
Much appreciated, Michael! ;)

RSJ
2014-02-20, 23:53
Thanks for sll the work on this; I'm looking forward to getting the world's best whole house audio system fully functional. I just got through doing a factory reset on my NAS and reconfiguring all that so I'm not up to trying to update my SB Radio right now. So I'm going to wait for the update. So thanks again and I'm looking forward to the update.

Sent from my SGH-M919 using Tapatalk

aubuti
2014-02-21, 07:40
Out of curiosity, who has LMS 7.8? Looks like the latest available on mysqueezebox.com is still 7.7.3
Lots of people do. It's beta, available at the usual place: http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/ mysb.com only has the latest officially released version, which is 7.7.3.

RSJ
2014-02-21, 10:13
Just got the update and all is beautiful in the land Squeezbox players; listening to Rhapsody throughout the house. Thanks again.

Sent from my SGH-M919 using Tapatalk

RSJ
2014-02-21, 10:14
Any word on when 7.8 will be officially released?

Sent from my SGH-M919 using Tapatalk

aubuti
2014-02-21, 10:33
Any word on when 7.8 will be officially released?
Depends what you mean by "official", but see this thread (and the thread links therein) for info on an upcoming "official community release" of 7.8.0: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?100898-Help-us-achieve-an-official-7-8-0-community-release

cjfreitag
2014-02-21, 10:36
Does anyone have the release numbers of the new firmware with the Rhapsody/Napster fix? Touch and Radio?

partymonkey
2014-02-21, 10:38
Thank you for getting this fixed!!!!!!!

aubuti
2014-02-21, 10:56
Does anyone have the release numbers of the new firmware with the Rhapsody/Napster fix? Touch and Radio?
The link that Michael posted in post #55 is now a dead-end, but it looks as if the new firmware has been put up on the main site: http://update.slimdevices.com/update/firmware/7.8.0/ . Note that Touch is fab4 and Radio is baby.

EDIT: see partymonkey's post immediately below for the correct release numbers (I posted an incorrect one earlier for Touch under 7.7.3).

partymonkey
2014-02-21, 10:57
Does anyone have the release numbers of the new firmware with the Rhapsody/Napster fix? Touch and Radio?

I believe the radio is 7.7.3_r16676
The touch, depending on whether you use LMS 7.7.x or LMS 7.8 (which I believe is not officially released), would be either 7.7.3_r16676 or 7.8.0_r16754.

RSJ
2014-02-21, 11:01
Thanks, not sure about the release numbers but when I powered my Radio back up it said a new version was available and presto all is good.

Sent from my SGH-M919 using Tapatalk

fcm4711
2014-02-21, 11:35
Hi there

Squeezebox Radio (baby): 7.7.3 r16676
Squeezebox Touch (fab4): 7.7.3 r16676 (or 7.8.0 r16754)
Smart Radio: 10.0.1 r16964


Felix

cjfreitag
2014-02-21, 12:19
My players haven't updated yet. Interesting, thought, that while I am running LMS 7.8 on a Mac, the information for my Radio shows Firmware: 7.7.2-r9663.

aubuti
2014-02-21, 12:23
My players haven't updated yet. Interesting, thought, that while I am running LMS 7.8 on a Mac, the information for my Radio shows Firmware: 7.7.2-r9663.
Have you tried prompting it to update the firmware? I think it's under Settings > Advanced > Software Update.

cjfreitag
2014-02-21, 12:40
Have you tried prompting it to update the firmware? I think it's under Settings > Advanced > Software Update.

I had tried that without success. But a restart of LMS did the trick, and now all the players are updated. It's nice to have this sorted out!

justwords
2014-02-22, 00:42
I gave each of my kids a Squeezebox controller and they use it as a Squeezebox player (via the "beta" playback function). Is there a firmware-fix for Rhapsody/Napster for these devices as well? I use lms 7.8 (some nightly version) on a nas (Wd mybook live).

fcm4711
2014-02-22, 01:28
Hi justwords

No, there is no new firmware for Squeezebox Controller.

Felix

frb63
2014-02-22, 08:39
I haven't checked back on this thread in quite a while, so wasn't aware of the beta testing. But this morning I happened to check my radio Settings for an update, and was thrilled to find one waiting.

Rhapsody is back! Thanks Michael and all who helped. You've made my day.

Randy

MitchellThomas
2014-02-22, 13:12
> Any update mherger? Missing Napster on my Radio badly...

Good news: we have fixed firmware. Getting QAed.

--

Michael

Thank you for that fix! It works like a charm.

So I have two questions:

I would like to pay back the author of the fix somehow... it wouldn't be much, say the value of a lunch... how can I do that?
Being a software developer, I would love to know some of the details of the issue/fix. Is there a way I can explore that, perhaps a github commit or something similar?

fcm4711
2014-02-22, 13:41
Thank you for that fix! It works like a charm.

So I have two questions:

I would like to pay back the author of the fix somehow... it wouldn't be much, say the value of a lunch... how can I do that?
Being a software developer, I would love to know some of the details of the issue/fix. Is there a way I can explore that, perhaps a github commit or something similar?



Hi there

You are welcome. And thanks for the offer, that is very kind of you, but really not necessary. The issue was the new certificate Rhapsody is using. Each field in a certificate has a type (i.e. plain ASCII string, UTF-8, etc.). In the past the field holding Rhapsody's domain name was marked as plain ASCII string but in the current certificate that changed to UTF-8 (although the content is still a plain ASCII string). The open source library version we were using to verify the certificate did not support UTF-8 fields and therefore the certificate check and Rhapsody playback failed. Switching to a newer version of axTLS fixed the issue.

Cheers
Felix

ajkidle
2014-02-23, 04:39
Thanks so much for this fix. Really encouraging to see official support continuing for SB.

Has anyone with a Votexbox been able to apply the new firmware? The official VB 2.2 software is still on LMS 7.7.2, so the fix doesn't appear. Is there a way I can force my VB to update to LMS 7.7.3?

EDIT: Solved
http://vortexbox.org/forum/vortexbox/general/53309-error-on-sb-touch-to-use-rhapsody-napster-update-your-firmware

radish112
2014-02-23, 09:50
All hail Michael Herger and Felix!

I'm now streaming some great soprano saxophone music by Steve Lacy on my SB Touch via Rhapsody.

Steve

flo72
2014-02-25, 06:10
Hi justwords

No, there is no new firmware for Squeezebox Controller.

Felix

Hi Felix,

First of all, thank you for fixing this issue. SmartMix with local music only became a bit boring in the meanwhile.. Good to know that someone is still taking care for this great system.

As I'm using one of my controllers as squeezebox player at work (the poor man's touch), I would also be interested whether an update of the controllers firmware is planned for the future. It's clear to me, that I'm using a beta feature without official support, so it would just good to know, whether I can rely on a controller as squeezebox player or whether I have to buy another radio (would be the sixth one).

Greetings Florian

t-chok
2014-02-25, 10:31
Huge thank-you's to all who were involved in creating the Rhapsody fix. It is great to once again have Rhapsody streaming around the various devices on my Squeeze network at home!

Much appreciated!

Tim

RSJ
2014-02-25, 13:17
flo72 if you have a smartphone or tablet I strongly recommend getting the Squeezecommander app to control your Squeezbox players. It's definitely worth the few dollars and makes your devices a joy to operate. I own 5 receivers, 1 Boom and one Radio and I control them all easily at home with a tablet and our smartphones, it's a beautiful thing. The only catch is that you have to have the Squeezbox server running on your network, you can't do it through squeezbox.com If you have any questions I'll be glad to help.

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kidstypike
2014-02-25, 14:57
flo72 if you have a smartphone or tablet I strongly recommend getting the Squeezecommander app to control your Squeezbox players. It's definitely worth the few dollars and makes your devices a joy to operate. I own 5 receivers, 1 Boom and one Radio and I control them all easily at home with a tablet and our smartphones, it's a beautiful thing. The only catch is that you have to have the Squeezbox server running on your network, you can't do it through squeezbox.com If you have any questions I'll be glad to help.

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With SqueezeCommander you can certainly control any player connected to MySqueezebox.com.

RSJ
2014-02-25, 15:08
Yes, connected to but you need Logitech Media Server running on your local network to control them through the app. I could be mistaken but I've never been able to see or control a player that's not connected through LMS.

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kidstypike
2014-02-25, 15:21
Yes, connected to but you need Logitech Media Server running on your local network to control them through the app. I could be mistaken but I've never been able to see or control a player that's not connected through LMS.

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I've connected all my players to Mysqueezebox.com, and stopped LMS, I can quite happily see and control all my players with SqueezeCommander. What more can I say?

RSJ
2014-02-25, 15:33
Well then start a new post and tell us your secret, I'd like to know. I run LMS on a NAS so I can have access to my music collection that's stored there. But it would be good to know how to move my players off LMS in case my NAS goes down again. See my NAS crashed awhile back and I had to get out the Controller until I could get it back up and get LMS running.

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kidstypike
2014-02-25, 16:21
Well then start a new post and tell us your secret, I'd like to know. I run LMS on a NAS so I can have access to my music collection that's stored there. But it would be good to know how to move my players off LMS in case my NAS goes down again. See my NAS crashed awhile back and I had to get out the Controller until I could get it back up and get LMS running.

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No secrets, MySqueezebox.com should be available on the SqueezeCommander server/player screen.

Try uninstalling the app and reinstalling.

To move a player to Mysqueezebox.com use the player controls

Boom Classic and Transporter, using the infrared remote press and hold the left button, then scroll to connect to Mysqueezebox.com

Touch and Radio, Settings > Advanced > Networking > connect to Mysqueezebox.com

Duet, I don't know, sold mine years ago, but probably the same as Touch and Radio, but using the controller.

To move a player to Mysqueezebox.com using Squeezecommander, on the player screen tap the icon top left, then drag the player to the server you wish to use.

RSJ
2014-02-25, 22:12
D.) None of the above


What you don't see on this screen shot is my Receiver that is connected to squeezebox.com I wasn't able to switch it using SqueezeCommander so I grabbed the Controller. But once it's connected I can't see it or control. So I'm not sure what I'm missing but I've been using SqueezeCommander for years and I've never been able to use it without LMS running. So like they say, if it ain't broke don't fix it.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/26/saba5uzu.jpg

RSJ
2014-02-25, 22:23
To switch to mysqueezebox.com on Duet/Recivers, settings>advanced>networking>switch to mysqueezebox.com

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Mnyb
2014-02-25, 23:43
To switch to mysqueezebox.com on Duet/Recivers, settings>advanced>networking>switch to mysqueezebox.com

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Do you have your mysqueezebox.com credentials entered into LMS settings ?

RSJ
2014-02-25, 23:58
Yes, my LMS can't function without access to it.

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flo72
2014-02-26, 00:41
flo72 if you have a smartphone or tablet I strongly recommend getting the Squeezecommander app to control your Squeezbox players. It's definitely worth the few dollars and makes your devices a joy to operate. I own 5 receivers, 1 Boom and one Radio and I control them all easily at home with a tablet and our smartphones, it's a beautiful thing. The only catch is that you have to have the Squeezbox server running on your network, you can't do it through squeezbox.com If you have any questions I'll be glad to help.

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Hi, thank you for your kind offer. But I was asking for a new controller firmware because I'm using the controller as a player (either with headphones or some small active speakers).

This is possible by activating some beta feature. To my experience this works well as long as the controller is not synchronized. When synchronized with a real player, I noticed some timing problems resulting in little regular clicks or cracks (interval depending on the audio settings of the LMS). Probably that was the reason, why this really cool feature always stayed in beta status. So the controller is a nice stand-alone solution that allows you to listen to Napster (which needs a hardware player and would not work on a Pi+Squeezelite).

While the duet receiver was not affected by the Rhapsody-Logitech-Certificate problem, the controller used as a player is. That's why I was asking for the update, because otherwise my solution of the controller as Napster-client would end here. OK, I can use the Napster App on my android, but I prefer using only the Logitech system with features like SmartMix using local music and Napster.

BTW: I'm a long time squeeze commander user and I also have no problem seeing one of my players when being connected to MSB.

-Florian

fcm4711
2014-02-26, 03:09
Hi Florian

As far as I know there is no plan for a SB Controller firmware update.

Sorry
Felix

flo72
2014-02-26, 08:15
Hi Felix,

OK, I was afraid that there is no update for the controller. But I can understand that this use case does not have high priority. Next time please add an additional "goto fail" and drop the verification of the certificate ;)

ajkidle
2014-02-26, 19:17
Next time please add an additional "goto fail" and drop the verification of the certificate ;)

Brilliant!

RSJ
2014-02-26, 21:46
Florian, I see said the blind man. I missed that detail in your comments. :-)

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earthbased
2015-04-13, 13:56
So SB Radio on non-UE firmware is OK to upgrade to 7.7.3 r16676 WITHOUT installing UE firmware?

pippin
2015-04-13, 14:02
Yes.