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Simon Turner
2004-11-26, 18:03
Volume of mail not a problem at all.
Personally I prefer this email based mailing list to html based forums as
the current set up is quick and immediate for me to use, enabling simple
scanning and searching of headers and messages saved locally. I can
understand how it is not the best format for casual users or new users as
the current html archives do not seem very easy to scan or search (gmane
included). I find html based forums are OK as long as they are fast, well
threaded and include a very good search facility (very important indeed..
for users and SD alike). The Apple forums are an example of very bad forums
(slow to load and v.bad threading), Hydrogen audio an example of a good
forum. The support forum example on the Gossamer site seems very fast (are
the customer forums as fast?) and well threaded but it is difficult to
evaluate the search.

I can't see a problem with the current set up, but it would be improved if
there was a good threaded html version as well. .I don't have any problem
with good html based forums if that was what was felt was best but I think
the best solution would be this list as is, but also displayed as a good,
searchable html threaded forum (although I am not too sure if this type of
service exists, but cannot immediately see why not).
If this type of service does not exist my vote would be to keep as is for
now.

An aside...
If I had to identify the one thing about this group that I thought was
entirely marvellous it would be kdf (even though I use Windows and he hasn't
got a Windows machine), so I guess if moving to html forums might lose him I
would be dead against it. (BTW. WTF isn't he paid, it seems criminal to
me?).

Simon Turner (back from the pub and not worried about convention)
Brighton UK



> Hi Folks,
>
> I'd like to get some feedback from folks on the list about the volume
> of mail on this discussion list.
>
> Despite doing my best to configure my mailer, I'm feeling overwhelmed
> by the volume of messages. The vast majority of the traffic is great,
> but we may be reaching the breaking point on the list.
>
> One would be to split the list into multiple smaller lists, but I fear
> that this would fragment the community too much.
>
> Personally, I prefer mailing lists to web-based forums, but I think
> we're reaching the limit of what's manageable on a discussion list.
> The leading candidate is Gossamer Forum.
>
> <http://www.gossamer-threads.com/scripts/gforum/index.htm>
>
> One nice feature of Gossamer Forums is that it allows e-mail
> subcriptions, which lets folks get daily digests if they prefer. I'd
> like to hear some feedback on this move, especially if anyone has
> experience with this specific product.
>
> Thanks,
>
> dean
>
>

kdf
2004-11-27, 12:33
Quoting Simon Turner <simon (AT) brighton (DOT) co.uk>:


> An aside...
> If I had to identify the one thing about this group that I thought was
> entirely marvellous it would be kdf (even though I use Windows and he hasn't
> got a Windows machine),

Thanks muchly! the praise is graciously appreciated. I do actually have a
windows machine, I just dont run it as my main server. I have two windows
machines set up with small libraries for testing. I also have a beautiful
little iBook (thanks to SlimDevices for that) so I do some testing on that too.

> so I guess if moving to html forums might lose him I
> would be dead against it.

I won't be lost simply because of that. My only statement is that it would beb
less convenient for me. As one other user has posted, its easier to have mail
open than a web forum when you are at work.

>(BTW. WTF isn't he paid, it seems criminal to me?).

I do actually have a day job, believe it or not :) With half-decent benefits and
good hours too! For the most part, I'm stuck in a cubicle much of the time, so
its easy enough to glance at an email or two, and replying doesn't take all
that long when you dont bother to spell everything correctly all the time.

The nicest part of open source is that it rather self serving. Fixing bits of
code means my server runs better too. Its not like I've gone completely
uncompensated either. Everyone here knows how well SlimDevices takes care of
its users. They are good to their contributors too.

I dont have kids taking up my free time, and my girlfriend happens to live in
england, so my free time is often spent at a computer anyway. hey, if you could
have a forum linked to IM, that could work ;)

thanks again!
kdf