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RonDMC
2013-12-29, 19:19
When Logitech eventually flips the switch on mysqueezebox.com what will it break and what will keep working? Initially will the only thing I will be able to do is stream local music? Will all radio, plugins (spotify) etc stop working?

I am running LMS on my server but no exactly sure how much dependence LMS has on mysb.com. My current source is "My Music" whihc is obviously local but have always run LMS and never really thought about the impact can you guys enlighten me?

erland
2013-12-29, 20:51
When Logitech eventually flips the switch on mysqueezebox.com what will it break and what will keep working? Initially will the only thing I will be able to do is stream local music? Will all radio, plugins (spotify) etc stop working?

I am running LMS on my server but no exactly sure how much dependence LMS has on mysb.com. My current source is "My Music" whihc is obviously local but have always run LMS and never really thought about the impact can you guys enlighten me?

Internet radio provided by TuneIn will continue to work as long as you upgrade to the 7.8 beta release of LMS (it won't work in 7.7 and earlier releases of LMS).
Third party plugins installed in LMS will continue to work, for example Triode's Spotify plugin, Bandcamp plugin and Qobuz plugin.
Most online services provided by Logitech, like Rhapsody, Pandora, WiMP and others will not work.
The Squeezebox Touch/Radio uses mysqueezebox.com for artwork rescaling when listening to online services and internet radio, this will stop working when mysqueezebox.com is shutdown but the latest 7.8 beta release of LMS have a built-in artwork scaler so it would probably be fairly easy to switch the Radio/Touch firmware to use that instead.

There are work going on in the community, for example in the ickStream project, with the intention to add support for more online services without dependency to mysqueezebox.com.

At the moment there are no indications that Logitech is about to shutdown mysqueezebox.com and the best way to guarantee that they will keep it running is to continue using functionality that depends on mysqueezebox.com.

RonDMC
2013-12-29, 21:15
Thanks for the thorough reply, very informative and I'm sure there's lots of people out there still running Squeezeboxes but are unaware of what will happen when Logitech turn things off.

I'm currently running 7.7.3 is 7.8 being developed by Logitech or is it community based? Is it recommended I moved to 7.8 now or wait until things stop working? Everything is working great for me at the moment so I am reluctant to change anything.

erland
2013-12-29, 23:22
I'm currently running 7.7.3 is 7.8 being developed by Logitech or is it community based?

It's community based in the perspective that Logitech management has very small interests in what gets included.
It's developed by Logitech based on the perspective that the person providing most additions is currently employed by Logitech, working on it when he isn't occupied with other stuff their management wants him to do.
It has previously been said that 7.8 will never be officially released by Logitech, so it will either be a beta forever or the community will eventually decide to take over completely and make an official release.



Is it recommended I moved to 7.8 now or wait until things stop working? Everything is working great for me at the moment so I am reluctant to change anything.

No big reason to switch in my opinion if you are satisfied with the current setup.

There are some new features in the 7.8 beta, information from the changelog:

New Features:

Re-implement Podcast plugin to support all players. Allow resuming a podcast you partially
listened to before.
Modify Internet Radio integration to work independently from mysb.com if needed.
Add new scanner step to discover new/changed/removed standalone artwork for album covers.
A new generic image resizing proxy is now built in to LMS. It can be used instead of the
image proxy hosted on mysqueezebox.com, or independently by plugins to eg. resize artwork
local to your network (and therefore not reachable by the remote proxy).
The default behaviour on power-on is changed to resume what was playing before power-off.
This change will only apply to new players attached to the server;
the behaviour for existing players can be changed with Settings / Player / Audio.
Support for Ogg FLAC in the server and Squeezeplay-based players
Added support for setting alarm playlist shuffle mode (thanks hickinbottoms!)
Volume adjustment for Internet Radio (feature request #2431 (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2431))
Allow clients to register artwork resizing specifications to be pre-cached during the media scan.
Add Triode LocalFile 'loc' ProtocolHandler support for squeezelite.


Platform Support:

Perl 5.18 modules for Linux x86_64 systems have been added.
Improved compatibility with latest Perl 5.18 changes.


Bug Fixes:

#8180 (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=8180) - Squeezecenter prevents user logout after restart
#17174 (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17174) - Title info doesn't update correctly when multiple SBs are playing same station
#17634 (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17634) - Random art represents an album as cover art, if there is track art available
#17729 (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17729) - On Linux SBS 7.4.1 and above: service cannot be stopped or restarted after an 'internal' restart
#17758 (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17758) - Pop up symbols linger too long on the screen
#17920 (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17920) - TuneIn Radio Options Context Menu - Results returned are unnecessarily limited and frequently 'not available'
#17933 (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17933) - Failure to parse m3u playlists with relative paths
#17937 (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17937) - Now Playing information can alternate between station and current-track titles at track skip
#17950 (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17950) - %w macros (stream seconds duration) returns negative value


Other:

Recognise Fedora as being a Red Hat system.
Improve Perl 5.16 compatibility to silence some warnings.
Don't enforce PNG when showing full size artwork, but only when resizing is requested. Converting a large JPG would result in a huge PNG
Don't deal with photo and/or video folders if the UPnP plugin has been disabled.

jimbobvfr400
2013-12-30, 02:50
Good summary.
I'd also add Michael Hergers truely excellent Music and Album Information plugin requires 7.8 for a lot of its functionality. For me at least this was almost enough to make the upgrade worthwhile.

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