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Yesfan70
2013-12-27, 10:24
I have a 3 Squeeze boxes (two v3 and one original), but have thought about adding a "higher end" player to my home theater room. I've always wanted the Transporter, but the Touch looks like a great player as well. Is there any advantages of one over the other?


On another note, is there a chance another company might pick up the Squeezebox players and continue to sell them? I hate that Logitech pulled the plug on these wonderful players.


Thanks everbody.

garym
2013-12-27, 10:43
I have a 3 Squeeze boxes (two v3 and one original), but have thought about adding a "higher end" player to my home theater room. I've always wanted the Transporter, but the Touch looks like a great player as well. Is there any advantages of one over the other?


On another note, is there a chance another company might pick up the Squeezebox players and continue to sell them? I hate that Logitech pulled the plug on these wonderful players.


Thanks everbody.

I have both. I love the transporter and it is the SB player in my main system. But it is old technology at this point. If/When it dies, I'll replace it with one of my spare TOUCH players and a new DAC. I suspect you'd be better off pairing the TOUCH with a quality DAC of your choice. I use a TOUCH with a Benchmark DAC I (S/PDIF input) in one location and it is quite nice sounding.

Regarding comparison: Both can do 24/96 natively. Both support optical, S/PDIF or analog. Touch can do 24/192 with Triode's EDO plugin. Touch can handle some formats natively that the Transporter requires LMS to transcode.

jimbobvfr400
2013-12-27, 10:50
It's just my opinion but previously I always wanted a transporter but in all honesty I'd go for a Touch in preference to the transporter. Mainly for the reasons given above and also for possible future upgrades with a DAC and the EDO plugin.

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Pale Blue Ego
2013-12-27, 20:02
I recently purchased a brand new SB Touch at a tidy profit for the seller. It will arrive shortly. I did consider a used Transporter. I think the Transporter has the higher cool factor, but the Touch will do nicely and should sound excellent in my system. I already have a SB or six, so the Touch lets me acquire a bit more extinct SB hardware and improve the sound in my main system, which currently sports a SB3. I started in 2003 with a SliMP3 in that same location.

callesoroe
2013-12-28, 05:56
I have a 3 Squeeze boxes (two v3 and one original), but have thought about adding a "higher end" player to my home theater room. I've always wanted the Transporter, but the Touch looks like a great player as well. Is there any advantages of one over the other?


On another note, is there a chance another company might pick up the Squeezebox players and continue to sell them? I hate that Logitech pulled the plug on these wonderful players.


Thanks everbody.

If you can get your fingers in a Transporter then do that. It is build rock solid with high quality components. The Touch is "toy" electronics compared to the Transporter.
The DAC in the Transporter sounds awesome. It is not the newest anymore and there is a lot of DAC's on the market now. Most of them may sound different, but do the sound BETTER.... ?
You shall have a very fine setup before your Transporter will be "The weak link". And to me it still looks awesome :)

Mnyb
2013-12-28, 06:13
Yeah the transporter is high quality , the only thing that would worry me a bit in an old used unit is the VFD displays ( 2 of them ) .
But if the price is rigth...

A Toy quality thing like Touch can last a while too just wondering a bit about it's display quality .

In any case , a hint I many others are using the displays on any squeezebox as little as possible to preserve lifetime .


DAC quality , it basically flat-lined a decade ago imo :)

I donít buy that high end press hype that you get revolutionary quality improvement every 2 months for a couple of k$ more .
(another topic is high end dac's that sound radically different than either a tp or a touch ,but thats not hifi )

garym
2013-12-28, 06:41
In any case , a hint I many others are using the displays on any squeezebox as little as possible to preserve lifetime .


Yes, I use the BLANKSAVER plugin so that my Transporter displays are OFF when I'm not playing something.



DAC quality , it basically flat-lined a decade ago imo :)


Agree and one can now spend much LESS money to get good quality DACs.

Yesfan70
2013-12-28, 17:38
Thanks everybody for the replies.

I like both, but I'm really sold on the cool factor of the Transporter. That's where I'm leaning. The Touch is cheaper (a plus), but not by much compared to it's price before Logitech stopped producing them. Can someone explain a little more about the EDO plugin on the Touch? What does that do? I'm not exactly PC savvy, so overlook my ignorance please.


The biggest thing I worry about with another SB and the ones I have is if/when one of them dies. If I knew of someone or someplace that could repair them, like with the VDF display as mentioned, then I would feel a lot better about buying another one.



I really like the looks of that Transporter.

garym
2013-12-28, 18:16
Thanks everybody for the replies.

I like both, but I'm really sold on the cool factor of the Transporter. That's where I'm leaning. The Touch is cheaper (a plus), but not by much compared to it's price before Logitech stopped producing them. Can someone explain a little more about the EDO plugin on the Touch? What does that do? I'm not exactly PC savvy, so overlook my ignorance please.


The biggest thing I worry about with another SB and the ones I have is if/when one of them dies. If I knew of someone or someplace that could repair them, like with the VDF display as mentioned, then I would feel a lot better about buying another one.



I really like the looks of that Transporter.

Re the EDO plugin. It allows a TOUCH to (1) play 24/192 hires files (otherwise limited to 24/96 hires files) and (2) connect to certain DACs using USB out of the TOUCH. I have several touch players too but don't bother with EDO. Out of ~80,000 files I have less than 20 24/96 files and zero 24/192 files. (Note regular CDs are 16/44.1 files). I find the optical and S/PDIF digital outs of the TOUCH to be more than enough. In my opinion, the EDO is *not* a reason to go for the Touch over the Transporter unless you are really interested in the ability to feed a USB DAC or play 24/192 files.

If you really like the Transporter, go for it. It's only money! I love mine. It looks great, it is well built with quality components, I really like the sound of the DAC, and it works nicely. Install the BLANKSAVER plugin so that the displays are OFF when not being used, and the thing should last forever.

Mnyb
2014-01-04, 03:51
Another use for EDO is USB only DAC's . They are quite common , the idea behind them is to have good computer audio and USB is commonly found on computers . Now you can utilise such a product on a Touch .

IMO it is quite silly to not have multiple inputs on a DAC , I like my products practical ie being able to conect all kinds of stuff and have spare inputs etc.

But some USB DAC's are a bargain too .

But I agree with Gary , it's not much content worthwhile availed exclusively > 24/96 .
( if you can buy the 24/192 they often also sells 24/96 ).

Another use is DoP files to a DSD capable DAC over USB , but that's even more niche .

You basically have to chose file format over content to get a large enough collection of any of these formats .
IMO audiophile labels is like putting the cart before the horse :)

RonM
2014-01-04, 15:19
I have a Transporter as my main unit, with a Radio and a Duet servicing auxiliary spaces. I also have two Touches, as yet unused, in their boxes, awaiting deployment.

Aside from sound quality issues (I am obviously not qualified from personal experience), I would say go for the Transporter for the build quality and the cool factor -- but if cost is a factor, it 's hard to see the Touch as a bad choice.

Ron

carrera
2014-01-09, 11:49
Hi,

maybe i'm the only one, but I wouldn't go for the Transporter!

This is why mine died after about 3 years, and of course no service through Logitech!

So on the "Low End" side I'm still going with Touch, Classic, Receiver...

On the High End Side I switched to Linn.

regards
carrera

pablolie
2014-01-09, 12:45
really, you are much better off spending your money on a good external DAC, and feeding it from any SB - Touch or SB3. i used to want to buy a Transporter but all the spots where taken, and as i recently built my new system (see Pics of your system) i got a Benchmark DAC2HGC (which is superb), and used to feed it with the Touch but as of a few days ago connected an old SB3 with the original slim devices logo i had in a box. yes, i know the Touch supports 24/192 and the SB3 only does 48/24, but honestly i can't hear a difference.

lordgibbness
2014-01-09, 14:44
I'd almost certainly go with a good async USB DAC as jitter is essentially removed from the equation. So a Touch with the EDO extension installed would be my preferred choice. Although I do quite like those tube displays...

Eric Seaberg
2014-01-16, 17:36
I've had a Transporter since 2006 when I purchased it. I also have 2-SB3s and a Duet. My Transporter has NEVER had a problem and I love how it sounds and looks!! That being said, I could part with it for the right price if anyone were interested… just sayin'.

ricky.huyser
2014-01-23, 09:49
I bought a cheap android tab and loaded the app, cheap and very easy


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