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    What to buy next?

    I have enjoyed my Squeezebox setup for over 5 years but with the recent demise of the line I'm a bit stuck as to how to expand.

    My setup is relatively simple. I used to have a Duet in the living room and a Radio in the study, which pretty much took care of things. After building a summer house the Radio moved out there and in the winter it will likely find it's way onto my bedside table. At the same time a replacement computer (an iMac) went in the study.

    The plan was to run squeezeplay on the iMac. However a longstanding and seemingly insurmountable bug prevents the screensaver in OS X when squeezeplay is enabled (even when not playing) which renders this useless.

    So I need something to play music in the study. Another radio is an option, but it no longer fits in with the aesthetic in there (the iMac is all matt silver) and more importantly, the iMac also sounds better than the Radio (I have a nice little subwoofer attached via USB which really brings the best out of the newest iMac).

    Options are complicated further by the fact that the latest iMac has lost it's line in connection, although I believe that this can be relatively cheaply solved by a USB solution.

    So what are my options? As I see it at the moment I have a few, but if anyone has better suggestions please feel free to share them.

    1. A second duet receiver from fleabay attached to iMac.
    2. A "new" SB3 for the living room and relocate the current duet receiver to attach to the iMac.
    3. An O2 Joggler attached to the iMac.
    4. An iPod touch and dock running squeezepad attached to the imac.

    Any other suggestions? My preferences for something visually discreet and easy enough for the GF to operate!

    Thx all, Ant

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    Is the girlfriend already used to using a phone, tablet or the duet controller. My thoughts are to try squeezelite on the Mac, its headless so doesn't have an interface as such but is controllable as any other SB using apps, web interface etc. You could even use squeeze play to control squeezelite on the Mac and quit so you don't get the screensaver issue.

    A joggler for control is also a good call, although I'd probably use it to control squeezelite on the Mac rather than inputting the joggler to a line in

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    Hi there

    Thx for that. To answer, yes GF happily uses duet controller and would be happy carrying on with that setup, as would I, although I use other devices also (work ipad and my phone). Wrt squeezelite, I have to confess that I know nothing about it but will now do some searching. If it is headless I presume it would be controllable via the various interfaces (controller, phone, ipad, SB Radio) but not visible or controllable on the imac? If so it sounds ideal...

    Tx, Ant

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    Yes exactly that, although you can control from the mac using the Web interface. If the mac is running your server then the local player plug in for LMS is an easy way to setup squeezelite running on your server computer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ant View Post
    The plan was to run squeezeplay on the iMac. However a longstanding and seemingly insurmountable bug prevents the screensaver in OS X when squeezeplay is enabled (even when not playing) which renders this useless.

    Have you tried setting this environment variable as described here?

    export SDL_VIDEO_ALLOW_SCREENSAVER=1

    I autostart squeezeplay at login and my screensaver kicks in as usual.

    I'm still running 10.6 so it may be that this no longer works with a more recent OSX.
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    hi Ralphy

    thx for that advice. I am still new to OS X and have no experience of terminal, but I will look to trying that out.

    However I have just installed squeezelite and while it seems to work there also seem to be terrible sync/buffer issues at least while playing through spotify. Also it refuses to play mp3 files, although I am sure I have seen that issue described elsewhere on the forum, so no doubt I'll be able to find a solution. More pressing is the dropout/sync/buffer issues which, as I write this, are driving my GF up the wall!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ant View Post
    hi Ralphy

    thx for that advice. I am still new to OS X and have no experience of terminal, but I will look to trying that out.

    However I have just installed squeezelite and while it seems to work there also seem to be terrible sync/buffer issues at least while playing through spotify. Also it refuses to play mp3 files, although I am sure I have seen that issue described elsewhere on the forum, so no doubt I'll be able to find a solution. More pressing is the dropout/sync/buffer issues which, as I write this, are driving my GF up the wall!
    For the drop outs you may need to also increase the portaudio library latency setting. 86 works well for me.

    export USEPALATENCY=86

    If you are using the built-in audio device you'll most likely need to define USEPAPLAYNICE as well.

    export USEPAPLAYNICE=1

    I haven't encountered the mp3 issue. Are you using the r247 download from the link I posted earlier?
    I confirmed that r247 plays mp3 files. I'd look at your lms server settings, perhaps you have bandwidth limiting enabled for squeezeplay but don't have lame installed.
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    hi

    Thx again. I have yet to try these options. In the meantime I have discovered that my external usb audio device sounds absolutely terrible when playing through either squeezeplay OR squeezelite, yet works nicely when playing either through itunes or spotify. I don't want to sound defeatist, but perhaps there is a limit as to what I can expect from free 3rd party plugins?

    WRT version, I definitely have r247. I will check my LMS settings wrt bandwidth limiting and lame, although the MP3 files in question are on my local LMS server and play perfectly well on the Duet so I suspect that that part is OK...

    It is very frustrating though, as it so very nearly works!

    bw, Ant

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ant View Post
    In the meantime I have discovered that my external usb audio device sounds absolutely terrible when playing through either squeezeplay OR squeezelite, yet works nicely when playing either through itunes or spotify. I don't want to sound defeatist, but perhaps there is a limit as to what I can expect from free 3rd party plugins?
    No, if they are properly set up, SQ will be the same

    WRT version, I definitely have r247. I will check my LMS settings wrt bandwidth limiting and lame, although the MP3 files in question are on my local LMS server and play perfectly well on the Duet so I suspect that that part is OK...
    Check this thread wrt the mp3 issue

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    Hi

    thx for that reply. You are quite right and I did not have the usb speaker connected when playing through iTunes. As it turns out the usb speaker sounds terrible playing anything and further investigations have shown that it is not compatible with the iMac.

    So that's one problem down at least! Have yet to try the other suggestions as to be honest, i don't know how to...

    But thanks to all anyway.

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