Downgrade UE Smart Radio to Squeeze OS

[dkfackler]

Looks good to me, and the logic is exactly as you describe. It has been a while since I have copied anything onto my Radio, but you may be prompted for the root password on the Radio. The default is 1234.

Hopefully, the final questions:

How long might this file transfer take? Seconds? Minutes? I know this is all hardware speed dependent, but if nothing appears to happen in 30 min, something is probably amiss.

Will Terminal give some symbol or cursor or other indication of success? Is there some sort of 'verbose logging' to be enabled to observe the transfer progress?

I do appreciate the help.

~DK

[aubuti]

You're right that it depends on the speed of the hardware, including the network. But it's only a 14MB file, so I would think it would be done in less than a minute. Certainly nowhere near 30 minutes.

After the command is done, it should come back to the command prompt in the terminal. If there are errors, you should get an error message. I'm not aware of any verbose logging for scp, but it may exist.

[dkfackler]

After the command is done, it should come back to the command prompt in the terminal. If there are errors, you should get an error message. I'm not aware of any verbose logging for scp, but it may exist.

SUCCESS! The extra space was the answer.

Is it just me, or could the SB sound a bit less 'bassy' than the UE? To my ear, it's an improvement.

Many thanks for the gentle guidance.

~DK

[hip2b2]

Hi Guys,

First of all I'd like to share with you my disappointment with the UE Smart Radio. Shame on me I didn't read enough before buying. I was sure this little music box would be better than it's predecessor but it's quite the opposite. A lot of cool features have been removed and the one I wanted the most with the UE Smart Radio wasn't there: playing music locally using my Synology NAS.

I decided to downgrade the firmware to baby 7.7.2 (r9663), thanks to some useful posts I found on this forum. So far, I've encountered no issues at all. Here's the information of my UE:

#cat /etc/squeezeos.version
10.0.1 r16963
root@ec2mbubld01.idc.logitech.com Thu Nov 8 09:33:51 PST 2012
Base build revision:  b4b03b7fc83610c2bcd43bd71a8461768cfd2519

#cat /proc/cpuinfo
Processor       : ARM926EJ-S rev 4 (v5l)
BogoMIPS        : 359.62
Features        : swp half thumb fastmult edsp java
CPU implementer : 0x41
CPU architecture: 5TEJ
CPU variant     : 0x0
CPU part        : 0x926
CPU revision    : 4
Cache type      : write-back
Cache clean     : cp15 c7 ops
Cache lockdown  : format C
Cache format    : Harvard
I size          : 16384
I assoc         : 4
I line length   : 32
I sets          : 128
D size          : 16384
D assoc         : 4
D line length   : 32
D sets          : 128

Hardware        : Logitech MX25 Baby Board
Revision        : 0007
Serial          :
UUID            :

If it can be of any help for someone else, here's what I did:

1 - Start the UE Smart Radio
2 - Go into the Settings menu and press button Home and ffwd(>>). A new Developers menu will appear at the bottom.
3 - Go into the Developers menu and enable remote access (SSH)
4 - Reboot the UE Smart Radio by holding down the power button and pressing it again
5 - ssh on your smart radio (You can find the IP address somewhere in the Settings menu) using root as the user and 1234 for the password
6 - You need to edit a lua script to add the FirmwareUpgrade option. Do the following:

#vi /usr/share/jive/applets/SetupFirmwareUpgrade/SetupFirmwareUpgradeMeta.lua

Now find the following line

-- jiveMain:addItem(meta:menuItem('appletSetupFirmwar eUpgrade', 'advancedSettings',
"UPDATE", function(applet) applet:showFirmwareUpgradeMenu() end, 115))

You need to uncomment this line by deleting the "--". Type :wq! (Save and quit)

7 - Reboot the UE Smart Radio by holding down the power button and pressing it again
8 - Download the 7.7.2 Revision 9663 firmware http://update.mysqueezebox.com/updat....7.2_r9663.bin
9 - Copy the firmware on your Smart Radio in directory /dev (using scp or any other software) since it's the only partition with enough disk space
10 - Create a symlink using the following command so the smart radio sees the new firmware:

#cd /media
#ln -s /dev/baby_7.7.2_r9663.bin baby_7.7.2_r9663.bin

11 - Go in to Settings->AdvancedSettings->FirmwareUpgrade (something like that) and do the upgrade
12 - When the squeezebox (!) has finished rebooting, you will be happy and I strongly suggest that you do a factory reset (Go in Settings -> Advanced -> Restore factory settings)

Just wondering; is there any reason to remove the SYMLINK (#rm symlink) as the final step? It would seem unnecessary once the device is converted to a Squeezebox.

Thanks

hip

[dkfackler]

My ignorance may be showing, but does the radio need that pointer to the desired firmware? Without the symlink, would the radio be once again a "StupidRadio"?

My formerly StupidRadio is much better and more useful as a Squeezebox.

Now to use a Raspberry Pi as a server...

~DK

[hip2b2]

My ignorance may be showing, but does the radio need that pointer to the desired firmware? Without the symlink, would the radio be once again a "StupidRadio"?

My formerly StupidRadio is much better and more useful as a Squeezebox.

Now to use a Raspberry Pi as a server...

~DK

The symlink is required to install the .bin file from it's non-standard location in the /media directory.

Now it's my turn to expose my ignorance. When you write "use a Raspberry Pi as a server..." do you mean use it as a true replacement for the Logitech server, or as a server for podcasts and music files?

Regards

hip

[dkfackler]

So, once the firmware is installed, the radio doesn't need to be 'diverted' to the new location(via the symlink) at boot-up?

Re: Raspberry Pi: the plan is to use it as a "NAS" and not run a whole computer all the time.

~DK

[hip2b2]

So, once the firmware is installed, the radio doesn't need to be 'diverted' to the new location(via the symlink) at boot-up?

Re: Raspberry Pi: the plan is to use it as a "NAS" and not run a whole computer all the time.

~DK

That is my understanding, though I am looking for confirmation. My belief is that once the Smart Radio is converted it is now for all intents and purposes a Squeezebox.

Does anyone know of any solutions to remove Logitech for the operation of the SB and get full functionality. My thought is that one day they may turn off the tap and force users to shudder the Smart Radio.

Regards

hip

[erland]

That is my understanding, though I am looking for confirmation. My belief is that once the Smart Radio is converted it is now for all intents and purposes a Squeezebox.

The link is only needed during the upgrade process, it will disappear automatically when you do the factory reset in the last step.

The reason for the symbolic link is that the UE Smart Radio firmware will look for firmware at uesmartradio.com (where it will find UE Smart Radio firmware) and the symbolic link will make it take the firmware from the local file instead of downloading it from uesmartradio.com.

When the device have Squeezebox firmware it will look for firmware at mysqueezebox.com servers and this will make it find Squeezebox firmware, not UE Smart Radio firmware, as long as you haven't selected on mysqueezebox.com web site that it should be "upgraded" to a UE Smart Radio.

Does anyone know of any solutions to remove Logitech for the operation of the SB and get full functionality. My thought is that one day they may turn off the tap and force users to shudder the Smart Radio.

You will be able to continue use it for local music, internet radio and some of the online services if you have LMS installed on a computer, Raspberry Pi or other similar device. Some of the online services are going to stop working when Logitech shut down mysqueezebox.com, but that's unlikely to happen intentionally while they still have devices under warranty. However, it can still happen by accident since most of the people with the right knowledge has been laid off recently so if it breaks they might not have the necessary people to fix the problems.

Future will tell if there will be an alternative solution after Logitech shuts down mysqueezebox.com.
I'm not that worried for Radio and Touch since they can be loaded with custom firmware, the problem is bigger for the older devices (Boom, Transporter, Classic, Receiver) but they will still continue to work for local music as long as LMS works.

[Mnyb]

.... And some of the web radio too mherger made large chunks of the Tune-in stuff local in the 7.8 server beta .
Thera are some plugins for spotify bbc and a choice of others that runs on a local server .
But most apps will be gone if mysqueezebox.com turns off .