Playing music via USB on Touch; can't control from LMS on laptop?

[aubuti]

I can't really answer your first question, because I've luckily never had firewall issues with LMS or its predecessors. I wouldn't think that Squeezeplay would have issues -- I haven't had any and things are usually easier for clients than they are for servers -- but I can't tell you for sure.

An app on a mobile device will definitely work for controlling TinyLMS on the Touch. They don't have the same obstacle as the LMS web interface because they are not web-based (ie, http) apps.

[kidstypike]

I'm thinking about trying Squeezeplay on my laptop. However, I had to go through a bit to get LMS to play nice with my Norton firewall/antivirus. How likely is it that I would have to do the same for Squeezeplay? If I have to go through that again to get Sqeezeplay to work, I think for now I'll forget about remote control for USB on the Touch.

I was also thinking of another possible option. I know you can use an app, such as "ipeng" or the free one Logitech offers, on a smart device (iPod Touch, iPad, Android device) to control the Touch. Do these apps allow control of USB on the Touch running TinyLMS, or is it like LMS on my laptop that cannot control USB?

Thanks.

I've just tried these:

iPeng (iPod)
Orange Squeeze (android)
Logitech's own (both iPod & android)

All of these work fine connected to TinyLMS. (32GB SD card mainly mp3s.

I don't see why you should have any problem with Squeezeplay on a laptop, works fine for me on a laptop, netbook and PC, although I only use windows firewall on all these.

[Saturn94]

I can't really answer your first question, because I've luckily never had firewall issues with LMS or its predecessors. I wouldn't think that Squeezeplay would have issues -- I haven't had any and things are usually easier for clients than they are for servers -- but I can't tell you for sure.

An app on a mobile device will definitely work for controlling TinyLMS on the Touch. They don't have the same obstacle as the LMS web interface because they are not web-based (ie, http) apps.

I appreciate the feedback. I guess the only way to tell if I'll have problems with Squeezeplay is to try it. Good to know I can use an app on a smart device (now I just need to get one).

I've just tried these:

iPeng (iPod)
Orange Squeeze (android)
Logitech's own (both iPod & android)

All of these work fine connected to TinyLMS. (32GB SD card mainly mp3s.

I don't see why you should have any problem with Squeezeplay on a laptop, works fine for me on a laptop, netbook and PC, although I only use windows firewall on all these.

Thanks for sharing your experience. Good to know once I get a smart device (don't know what I want yet) I'll be good to go.

[Saturn94]

That's what I was thinking, but last night I gave it another try and this time I was able to switch from "Squeezebox USB" to "Squeezebox" from LMS on my laptop. I didn't do anything different, but for some reason it now works; I was able to go back and forth from USB to my laptop without having to disconnect/reconnect the USB stick........can't say what it will do tomorrow. Computers........go figure.

I did leave the stick attached (without "ejecting") and will see if I can get it to come back up tonight without having to eject then reconnect it.

The USB stick is still working fine. Decided to get brave and try a spare USB HD I had on hand. I seems to scan fine for awhile but then TinyLMS stops because of an "error". I don't think it has to do with the music files since I'm using the same ones that are on my laptop (which LMS has scanned fine several times). I'm guessing its just one of the drives that the Touch doesn't like. Perhaps I might try a larger USB stick. I would like to be able to connect a portable USB HD, but frankly, given what I've been reading about using USB HDs on the Touch's USB port I'm not very motivated to keep persuing this option; perhaps later. I'm not one who enjoys troubleshooting these kinds of issues.

[aubuti]

I don't think it has to do with the music files since I'm using the same ones that are on my laptop (which LMS has scanned fine several times). I'm guessing its just one of the drives that the Touch doesn't like.

I'm not sure about that. If I recall correctly, TinyLMS will sometimes gag on files that regular LMS handles easily. I know that for a while at least TinyLMS was very sensitive to overly-large album art. If you want to pursue it then you could turn up the logging level on the scanner and see if it is bombing on the same file(s) each time.

[Saturn94]

I'm not sure about that. If I recall correctly, TinyLMS will sometimes gag on files that regular LMS handles easily. I know that for a while at least TinyLMS was very sensitive to overly-large album art. If you want to pursue it then you could turn up the logging level on the scanner and see if it is bombing on the same file(s) each time.

I see. Now that you mention it, the first time I tried to scan the attached USB HD, I did noticed that it scanned the music files fine, but crashed when it was doing the "pre cache artwork" scan. The second time I tried scanning I didn't notice at what point it crashed.

My appologies, but I don't know what this means:

...you could turn up the logging level on the scanner...

Sounds like there's a log I can view to see what file is causing problems?

[aubuti]

Yes, there are logs that are kept that can help with troubleshooting. Unfortunately, I don't recall where to find them on TinyLMS. I'm sure someone else on the forums will be able to help with that. Sorry.

[Saturn94]

Yes, there are logs that are kept that can help with troubleshooting. Unfortunately, I don't recall where to find them on TinyLMS. I'm sure someone else on the forums will be able to help with that. Sorry.

I appreciate the response.

[banned for life]

I decided to try playing music via a USB memory stick plugged into the back of the Touch. The Touch recognized the memory stick, scanned the contents, and I was able to play the tracks fine using the controls on the Touch. However, when I bring up LMS on my laptop, I cannot figure out how to get the Touch to play the music on the memory stick (still plugged into the Touch). At the upper right hand side of the page on LMS there is a dropdown to choose a player; I have the option to choose "Squeezebox Touch" or "Squeezebox Touch (USB)". If I choose "Squeezebox Touch (USB)", the browser acts like it's trying to connect but then gives up saying it cannot connect to that page. If I choose "Squeezebox Touch", I can stream music from my laptop, use my apps, and control internet radio, but I cannot access the music on the USB memory stick (again, its plugged into the Touch). I thought perhaps my firewall/antivirus may be the issue, but turning it off made no difference.

Can the USB port on the Touch be controlled by LMS on my laptop? If so, any idea what I can try to get it to work? I didn't have any luck finding an answer in the owners manual or on Logitech's online forum.

Thanks in advance.

Much running around here.

The SBT does not have the web-server interface. To the web-server interface on your laptop, the SBT is just a player. If the SBT had the web-interface, you would point the laptop's browser to the SBT's IP:9000 to control it. No deal.

You might be able to control it using SqueezePlay, but I doubt it.

bfl

[kidstypike]

Much running around here.

The SBT does not have the web-server interface. To the web-server interface on your laptop, the SBT is just a player. If the SBT had the web-interface, you would point the laptop's browser to the SBT's IP:9000 to control it. No deal.

You might be able to control it using SqueezePlay, but I doubt it.

bfl

You should have no problem controlling TinyLMS using Squeezeplay on a laptop/netbook/PC on the same network. I'm doing it now.