How to improve Touch sound?

[mlsstl]

Sometimes it's a compromise between smooth and dull vs harsh and lively. I'll give it another try but for now I find my sound to be as smooth as it'll probably get with the Touch. (or maybe I'm imagining things...)

Two comments. First, I find recordings to be far more variable than anything I do to my system. Sometimes the tweak that best highlights one recording brings out the worst in another. The problem in trying to "fix" things that way is it quickly becomes a dog chasing its own tail.

Second, humans have very vivid imaginations and it is very easy to make grand declarations about small changes.

The nice thing for the person playing recordings in their home is that the only thing that really matters is that they are happy with their system.

[guidof]

The nice thing for the person playing recordings in their home is that the only thing that really matters is that they are happy with their system.

Indeed!

Guido F.

[Turnandcough]

Actually I'm quite happy with my humble Touch based system. I was an early SB adopter and have converted many to it.

I’m most happy when I play random music and do things about the house. It allows me to listen to the music, not the system. But just like the people who own megabuck systems I inevitably end up on one of these forums and the tweaking starts over again. It's OK, it's part of the game.

What I'm saying is that with the Oppo feeding my DAC, violin is sweeter, piano sounds meatier and muted trumpets are a little bit easier to listen to with the volume past 9 o'clock. Navigating the menu is another story and I still haven’t figured out how to select genres and play my music folder randomly…yet. So the Touch remains my go to source...for now.

And yeah Pat Barber Café Blue sounds good no matter what. I save Stones "fingernails on a blackboard" records for my crappy car stereo.

[Rosewind]

No tweaks to TT before installing it. No vollock, though. However, I do apply SBGK's blog values after TT is installed.

Regards,

Guido F.

Thanks Guido! I'll look into these.

Best wishes,
Peter

[ivanyiu]

I use EDO and I also use TT3.0 and SBGK's blog values. In my experience and to my ears, each of these has enhanced the sound of my main system. I do not find them to yield a particularly 'digital' sound -- and I don't find the sound of the unvarnished SBT, with or without external DAC to be 'digital' either, by which I mean I don't find it edgy, shrill, or tipped up in the high frequencies. I also have digitized a few of my LPs, and I don't find the resulting transfers in any way 'digital' in sound.

By this, I'm not suggesting SBGK and some other forum members are imagining things. We each listen with different ears and expectations and through different systems in different rooms. Personally, I think this is just the way it should be.

If your system does not sound 'digital' to you, enjoy it and the music it lets you hear.

Best,

Guido F.

Hi Guido,

I try to get what setting you're using to work in my system by failed. I use a USB DAC, with EDO only it work fine. Intalled TT "tt -i", the playback start crackling. resume to normal with "tt -r"

Then I try to follow SBGK's suggestion to update the values. The crackling gone. but command "tt -s" show that kernel modification disabled.

I wonder if I do anything wrong, do you also get the "kernel modification disabled" with the "tt -s" command?

[guidof]

Hi Guido,

I try to get what setting you're using to work in my system by failed. I use a USB DAC, with EDO only it work fine. Intalled TT "tt -i", the playback start crackling. resume to normal with "tt -r"

Then I try to follow SBGK's suggestion to update the values. The crackling gone. but command "tt -s" show that kernel modification disabled.

I wonder if I do anything wrong, do you also get the "kernel modification disabled" with the "tt -s" command?

I'm sorry, I use SPDIF (Toslink) into my DSPeaker Dual Core DAC/EQ, not USB, so I cannot replicate your problem. Earlier on, I tried USB via a VLink II USB to SPDIF converter, and had no problem with crackling.

Try varying the order in which you load TT, EDO, and SBGK. If that does not work, I would suggest dropping TT from the mix.

Best,

Guido F.

[Waldo Pepper]

Thanks for your advice so far.

I suppose all electronics need a 'burn in' time so I'll leave it playing for a while and see if the digital glare diminishes.

Don't be so silly. "Burn in" is a term used for long term reliability and failure analysis of components and component equipment. The sound won't change, just your perception of it.

What is digital glare? Up there with colour and ambience?

[HumanMedia]

Hi Guido,

Then I try to follow SBGK's suggestion to update the values. The crackling gone. but command "tt -s" show that kernel modification disabled.

I wonder if I do anything wrong, do you also get the "kernel modification disabled" with the "tt -s" command?

It's fine with that message, it's actually still enabled. The code that reports that is just looking at one value that is typically changed with the default tt script, but not with the SBGK values.

[Peter Galbavy]

Don't be so silly. "Burn in" is a term used for long term reliability and failure analysis of components and component equipment. The sound won't change, just your perception of it.

What is digital glare? Up there with colour and ambience?

We don't want none of your stinking rationalism and science here!

<- for the humour impaired.

[Nonreality]

We don't want none of your stinking rationalism and science here!

<- for the humour impaired.

Science and sound quality. When did this start??