Possible to play a stream in applet without LMS/mysqueezebox.com ?

[erland]

Have anyone made any experiments with playing a stream in an applet without going through LMS or mysqueezebox.com and their "playlist xxx" commands ?
I've found decode.c and Playback.lua and suspect I need to do something similar or is there an easier way to accomplish it ?
Looks like decode.c isn't dependent on the server and SlimProto but Playback.lua is if I interpret the code correctly. I like to support both remote http streams and local file streams (for files on the USB drive attached to a Touch), but at the moment I'm mostly interested in supporting remote http streams.

Would be great with a function which I can just provide the URL of the stream to, but I suspect something like that doesn't exist ?
Have anyone made a try of doing something like this so you can provide some simple example or other guidance or are able to provide some information of what needs to be done to accomplish it ?

I realize I can probably not get support for synchronized playback between multiple players this way but I can live without that at the moment.

[Triode]

Easiest way is to use LMS/mysqueezebox.com to manage the playback as
otherwise you fight it.

If you want to play a custom stream type then the easiest way is to use the
spdirect protocol handler (spdr:// url)

See the BBCRadio applet again (spdr was added to allow this....)

The applet decides what it wants to play, sends a playback command for it
but uses an spdr url which allows the applet to register a protocol handler
in squeezeplay to initiate the actual stream.

Depends on the actual stream you want to play though.

-----Original Message-----
From: erland
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 6:54 PM
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Subject: [Developers] Possible to play a stream in applet
withoutLMS/mysqueezebox.com ?


Have anyone made any experiments with playing a stream in an applet
without going through LMS or mysqueezebox.com and their "playlist xxx"
commands ?
I've found decode.c and Playback.lua and suspect I need to do something
similar or is there an easier way to accomplish it ?
Looks like decode.c isn't dependent on the server and SlimProto but
Playback.lua is if I interpret the code correctly. I like to support
both remote http streams and local file streams (for files on the USB
drive attached to a Touch), but at the moment I'm mostly interested in
supporting remote http streams.

Would be great with a function which I can just provide the URL of the
stream to, but I suspect something like that doesn't exist ?
Have anyone made a try of doing something like this so you can provide
some simple example or other guidance or are able to provide some
information of what needs to be done to accomplish it ?

I realize I can probably not get support for synchronized playback
between multiple players this way but I can live without that at the
moment.


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[erland]

Easiest way is to use LMS/mysqueezebox.com to manage the playback as
otherwise you fight it.

If you want to play a custom stream type then the easiest way is to use the
spdirect protocol handler (spdr:// url)

See the BBCRadio applet again (spdr was added to allow this....)

The applet decides what it wants to play, sends a playback command for it
but uses an spdr url which allows the applet to register a protocol handler
in squeezeplay to initiate the actual stream.

Depends on the actual stream you want to play though.

Just to make sure I understand this correctly, does the BBCRadio applet play the stream without using LMS/mysqueezebox.com or does it only use spdr to allow it to retrieve the a temporary/dynamic url that should be used when streaming with LMS/mysqueezebox.com ?

In my case it's permanent http url's, so it's not anything strange, it's just that for this specific use case I'm working on I would prefer to not have to rely on that LMS or mysqueezebox.com is accessible when the stream is about to be played.

[Triode]

OK - that's a different case. You can definitely call the playback code
directly - looking at Playback.lua and the second half of BBCRadio for how I
start a stream, but you may want to change autostart. You will need to get
the media url and create the http request yourself + specify the codec etc
in the parameters you send to decode:start()

The other issue you will have is that the now playing display will also be
assuming a connection to LMS/mysqueezebox.com

That said - turning squeezeplay into a standalone application is an
interesting direction which others are likely to be interested in.... I
suspect long term this would be best served with a custom Playback.lua which
is not driven from slimproto.....

-----Original Message-----

Just to make sure I understand this correctly, does the BBCRadio applet
play the stream without using LMS/mysqueezebox.com or does it only use
spdr to allow it to retrieve the a temporary/dynamic url that should be
used when streaming with LMS/mysqueezebox.com ?

In my case it's permanent http url's, so it's not anything strange, it's
just that for this specific use case I'm working on I would prefer to
not have to rely on that LMS or mysqueezebox.com is accessible when the
stream is about to be played.