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    Controlling touch with duet remote without wifi hookup

    Trying to find the answer to this but haven't seen it yet in my searching. I have my father setup with a Touch running SBS connected to an USB drive. Not on a network. Can he use a Duet remote to control the touch or does it have to be on a WiFi network?

    Thanks.

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    No. Needs a local wifi. But you don't need Internet connection.
    Location 1: VortexBox Appliance 6TB (2.2) > LMS 7.7.2 > Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet)
    Location 2: VBA 3TB (2.2) > LMS 7.7.2 > Touch > Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio)
    Office: Win7(64) > LMS 7.7.2 > SqueezePlay
    Spares: VBA 4TB, SB3, Touch (3), Radio (3), CONTROLLER
    Controllers: iPhone4S (iPeng), iPad2 (iPengHD & SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.7 on Win7(64) laptop
    Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Tagging - mp3tag, Spotify

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    Just add a wifi router next to touch.
    Location 1: VortexBox Appliance 6TB (2.2) > LMS 7.7.2 > Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet)
    Location 2: VBA 3TB (2.2) > LMS 7.7.2 > Touch > Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio)
    Office: Win7(64) > LMS 7.7.2 > SqueezePlay
    Spares: VBA 4TB, SB3, Touch (3), Radio (3), CONTROLLER
    Controllers: iPhone4S (iPeng), iPad2 (iPengHD & SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.7 on Win7(64) laptop
    Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Tagging - mp3tag, Spotify

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    Thanks, garym. He recently added wireless service but I set up his music to play independent of that (and prior to his purchase). Can you direct me to instructions on how to set up the Duet controller with the touch, to work through the wifi?

    Thanks a bunch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yukiginger View Post
    Thanks, garym. He recently added wireless service but I set up his music to play independent of that (and prior to his purchase). Can you direct me to instructions on how to set up the Duet controller with the touch, to work through the wifi?

    Thanks a bunch.
    So, he has a system, with a WIFI Router (i.e, an internal network) and now that is also connected to the internet? And I assume that WIFI network has a SSID name (unique) and some sort of security (WPA, etc.). So both the TOUCH and the CONTROLLER have to be setup in each of their network setup routines to be connected to that SSID. And both the TOUCH and the CONTROLLER have to be setup to be registered on the same mysqueezebox.com account. This wiki may help as well:

    http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Main_Page

    p.s. Some of this setup requires a connection initially to the internet, but later on the internet is not required.
    Location 1: VortexBox Appliance 6TB (2.2) > LMS 7.7.2 > Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet)
    Location 2: VBA 3TB (2.2) > LMS 7.7.2 > Touch > Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio)
    Office: Win7(64) > LMS 7.7.2 > SqueezePlay
    Spares: VBA 4TB, SB3, Touch (3), Radio (3), CONTROLLER
    Controllers: iPhone4S (iPeng), iPad2 (iPengHD & SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.7 on Win7(64) laptop
    Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Tagging - mp3tag, Spotify

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    Thanks again. I wanted to avoid having SBS and his music running off his laptop because he doesn't often use his laptop. An older desktop computer gets the most use in the house and it is the machine that he accesses the internet with. I also understand that is better to use the Touch with an attached USB OR traditionally through a network to a computer that holds the music, so I was hoping to avoid any possible confusion and stick with one or the other. Now that he has invested in wireless and he really needs to have the extra versatility of the Duet remote I likely will install SBS on his laptop computer and link the Touch accordingly. The external hard drive can then just hold the FLAC files as backups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yukiginger View Post
    Thanks again. I wanted to avoid having SBS and his music running off his laptop because he doesn't often use his laptop. An older desktop computer gets the most use in the house and it is the machine that he accesses the internet with. I also understand that is better to use the Touch with an attached USB OR traditionally through a network to a computer that holds the music, so I was hoping to avoid any possible confusion and stick with one or the other. Now that he has invested in wireless and he really needs to have the extra versatility of the Duet remote I likely will install SBS on his laptop computer and link the Touch accordingly. The external hard drive can then just hold the FLAC files as backups.
    why not install LMS (new version of SbS) on the desktop that is attached to the network? And connect the USB drive with FLAC files to the desktop. You don't need a lot of horsepower for the LMS, so an old desktop is fine. And again, you can connect the USB external drive to the desktop.
    Last edited by garym; 2012-07-16 at 09:39.
    Location 1: VortexBox Appliance 6TB (2.2) > LMS 7.7.2 > Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet)
    Location 2: VBA 3TB (2.2) > LMS 7.7.2 > Touch > Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio)
    Office: Win7(64) > LMS 7.7.2 > SqueezePlay
    Spares: VBA 4TB, SB3, Touch (3), Radio (3), CONTROLLER
    Controllers: iPhone4S (iPeng), iPad2 (iPengHD & SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.7 on Win7(64) laptop
    Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Tagging - mp3tag, Spotify

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    Quote Originally Posted by yukiginger View Post
    Thanks again. I wanted to avoid having SBS and his music running off his laptop because he doesn't often use his laptop.
    You don't need to run SBS on a laptop.
    Personally, at home, I'm running a SB-Touch with an attached USB drive and the internal TinyLMS server. The networking of the Touch is configured to connect to my WiFi Access Point. The Touch can play local music from the attached USB drive (without a PC), and can also play Internet Radio via the network.
    On top of that, I have another SB-Touch and a SB-Radio that connect to the TinyLMS on the first SB-Touch. They can play music from the USB drive attached to the first SB-Touch. The only thing I needed was to connect them to the same WiFI Access Point and use the same SB credential.
    Moreover, I have a tablet with a SB controller application that can control all the other SB devices.

    Let face it, you managed to do the most difficult part, which is to run a SB-Touch with an attached USB drive. The only thing you need is to configure the network on that SB-Touch, don't change anything else.
    Also, most people will say that you would be better to buy a cheap iTouch or Android device as a controller rather than Logitech controller.

    Regards,

    Jean

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    Quote Originally Posted by garym View Post
    why not install LMS (new version of SbS) on the desktop that is attached to the network? And connect the USB drive with FLAC files to the desktop. You don't need a lot of horsepower for the LMS, so an old desktop is fine. And again, you can connect the USB external drive to the desktop.
    Ahhhh, yes, then I would still have the music backed up on the laptop but use his most-used computer to run LMS with the music on the attached hard drive. Thanks. This likely is the way I will proceed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jean2 View Post
    You don't need to run SBS on a laptop.
    Personally, at home, I'm running a SB-Touch with an attached USB drive and the internal TinyLMS server. The networking of the Touch is configured to connect to my WiFi Access Point. The Touch can play local music from the attached USB drive (without a PC), and can also play Internet Radio via the network.
    On top of that, I have another SB-Touch and a SB-Radio that connect to the TinyLMS on the first SB-Touch. They can play music from the USB drive attached to the first SB-Touch. The only thing I needed was to connect them to the same WiFI Access Point and use the same SB credential.
    Moreover, I have a tablet with a SB controller application that can control all the other SB devices.

    Let face it, you managed to do the most difficult part, which is to run a SB-Touch with an attached USB drive. The only thing you need is to configure the network on that SB-Touch, don't change anything else.
    Also, most people will say that you would be better to buy a cheap iTouch or Android device as a controller rather than Logitech controller.

    Regards,

    Jean
    Thank you. I set it all up and thought that he could view the Touch screen well enough from his seated position ~8' away but he really can't. I have an extra Duet controller and he has used it in my system in the past so he knows that it's nice to have all the details right on the handheld screen. My original post was seeking how to integrate the remote with the system I have set up currently. With your advice and garym's I'm getting close to a solution.

    I've also found the playlist creation on the Touch itself a little cumbersome so perhaps installing LMS on the computer and creating and managing playlists there will be easier in the end.

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